Not stopping but would like to pay to use showers

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  • Fisherman
    Fisherman Forum Participant Posts: 2,367
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    edited June 2018 #122

    Original poster has no need to come back here to read the trivia.Has had proper answers which show there are ample opportunities outside camping sites to bathe, obtain water and dispose within the UK>

  • moulesy
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    edited June 2018 #123

    Exactly so, F, but I think most would come back and give some indication of how helpful or not the responses had been. Good forum etiquette, surely?

  • JVB66
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    edited June 2018 #124

    A bit more than you  keep "banging " on about with your narrow knowledge of just one typeundecided

  • young thomas
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    edited June 2018 #125

    care to expand?

    in the UK i use CC and CCC club sites, commercials, THS meets, CL, CS, pub stops etc..

    in Europe I use ACSI sites, municipals, Aires, supermarkets

    ive done this in four different MHs, two uk vans and two German ones.

    if this is 'narrow knowledge of just one type' as mentioned in your previous post, please give me some advice as to the other 'types' you use.....

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  • JVB66
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    edited June 2018 #127

    I will not go down the much said poor design of motor caravan waste outlets ,except to say there was a Frankia motor caravan on this site emptying  point, and was not having a problem with the original type emptying point with the flexible pipe on their waste outlet , as the owners said "if all motor homes were fitted as this one, with this type of decent waste outlet the clubs and other sites would not need to spend so much money altering them"

  • moulesy
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    edited June 2018 #128

    Have you not noticed that over the past three or four weekends, DD? I'm all for welcoming new members to the forum, it would be very stale without them, but just lately a number of "newcomers" have managed to start threads on subjects which have caused bad feeling in the past (late departures, weekend block booking, dogs, overseas sites) and then just disappeared without trace. Which is why I hope debnian will come back to give us their reactions. smile

  • JVB66
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    edited June 2018 #129

    Lvs ,please keep up

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  • moulesy
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    edited June 2018 #132

    Or overcome by all the hot air! wink

  • EasyT
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    edited June 2018 #133

    In most parts of Cheshire the surface water is separate from foul sewage. I suspect most counties and regions are the same.

    When I wild camped however my 'grey' water had no fats or soaps in it and was disposed of in hedges or highway gullies.

  • JVB66
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    edited June 2018 #134

    It is the reason in the Cotswolds that it is very dificult to have "facilities"installed unless they are fully "contained"and unable to leak into the the stone below

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  • young thomas
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    edited June 2018 #136

    yes, I mentioned I'd had four.....two uk and two European...is this not sufficient to give a certain amount of experience?

    please keep up.....wink

    , as the owners said "if all motor homes were fitted as this one, with this type of decent waste outlet the clubs and other sites would not need to spend so much money altering them"

    did you manage to capture their oratory word for word?

    well done.....

    i have a waste pipe like DDs and there is also a small flexible pipe which can screw on as with the Frankia.....but this should not be necessary even with the simplest continental aire design...

    a concrete square with gently sloping sides which gather the water to a low central drain...no need for any additional kit, just park with the drain pipe anywhere within the square, pull the waste handle....and job done.

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  • cyberyacht
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    edited June 2018 #138

    There biggest disincentive to MH's or indeed caravans en route are the wretched height barriers. Often they are fitted to P&R facilities which is as good as saying "MH's not welcome in our town."

    In an earlier trip this year we visited the Ipswich P& R, the nearest to our CL being about 800 yards. A ten mile drive was required round the ring road to get to one without a height restriction.

  • ABM
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    edited June 2018 #139

    For  years  now  I  have  been  the  proud  owner  of  a  couple  of  2' 6" ish  lengths  of  square  guttering  with  which  I  can  accurately  aim  my  grey  waste  into  the  centre  of  the  designated  target  area  even  the  ones  that  used  to  be  in  the  centre  of  the  service  area.  { Mildenhall  C&MC  site  comes  to  mind }  No  need  for  any thing  more  technical,  any  run-off  will  be  from  hosing  the  area  down  afterwards,  with  the  water  aimed  towards  the  drain  .

  • EasyT
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    edited June 2018 #140

    Much is untreated and runs into roadside ditches or through a series of catchpits straight into streams.

  • SteveL
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    edited June 2018 #141

    So you'll just ignore the fact that some have more knowledge on these things than yourself and keep maintaining that water put into a roadside drain goes into the sewage system, rather than an aquifer, or water course as PD pointed out. 

    Plus ET's post above.

  • EasyT
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    edited June 2018 #142

    As a retired highway engineer Steve I can confirm that it is rare in my experience for surface water from the highways to be treated.  The exception is in old systems where there may be a combined sewer. It is unusual in Cheshire at least, to have any private surface water drains running into the highway drainage system. The run off from private properties is nearly always separate from highway sewers and from foul sewers, The domestic grey waste normally runs into the foul sewer. 

  • SteveL
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    edited June 2018 #143

    Thanks for the confirmation ET.

  • EasyT
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    edited June 2018 #144

    Maybe I should just correct myself slightly. There are some old systems where, although the surface water from properties do not run into the highway drainage system the highway drainage, instead of connecting into an outfall directly, actually runs into water/sewerage companies' surface water drains and occasionally into combined surface water and foul drains. This is something that is generally avoided in newer construction and is more common in older parts of towns and villages where new runs to take the old system to outfall is impractical.

  • Fisherman
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    edited June 2018 #145

    What has the last pile of c.... got to do with the poster seeking info about off site showering? Poor bloke must think CC members are from another planet. No wonder he never came back.

  • peedee
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    edited June 2018 #146

    You might not buy it M. but what a wonderful perk to allow members to use the newly installed motorhome waste disposal points and showers. Those with camper vans very often have very limited on board facilities and has already been pointed out I have yet to come across a CL which has a motorhome disposal point. When I use a CL I turn up with sufficient water in my tanks for my stay and have no wish to make umpteen journeys to cart grey waste by the bucketful across a field. I didn't buy a motorhome to make life harder in my advancing years.

    I doubt it would increase CL usage, there are other factors to consider but at least it would be one less problem for motorhome owners to be concerned about when considering using CLs.

    peedee

  • JVB66
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    edited June 2018 #147

    I do not think a pile of crap was mentioned, or maybe it's to what some "wild?"campers leave behindundecided

  • young thomas
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    edited June 2018 #148

    ....or, indeed, some dog owners....wink

    using the same stick which has been used umpteen times to 'beat' wild campers, it could easily be said that, as the CC doesn't charge for dogs (many other commercial sites do), it is 'encouraging' the touring with many dogs, thus increasing the chances of having irresponsible owners on site and the possibility of some members' holiday being spoilt as a result....

    of course, this is total rubbish, exactly as it's total rubbish to presume that allowing a waste dumping service on CC sites will 'encourage' the increase of wild camping.....

    in either case, it's the uncaring idiots who make life difficult and spoil things for those who 'wild camp' or 'dog' responsibly....

    ..and doesn't a dog walk and plenty of dog bins make it easier for those resonsible dog owners to dispose of their waste easily and correctly?

    ...exactly what some campers require for their waste....

    and these would need to be members and be charged additionally for doing it, which is not the case with dogs.

    I really don't see the problem.

  • JVB66
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    edited June 2018 #149

    It is not just the one large organisation that does not charge for dogs on their sites ,and only one other organisation that I know in the UK  that allows a "visit"to sites for a fee ( that some think is too high)to carry out the serviceing of vehicles and ownerswink

  • debnianwilliamson
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    edited June 2018 #150

    Thankyou moulesy. Yes some comments have helped and some have given me a giggle. I hope people don't think my husband and I are the great unwashed, tight fisted, unsocial, antisocial, roadhog, litterbug, lowest of the low (caravanners being slightly higher in the pecking order), that some may have indicated. We only want to have a bit of fun and see some of our beautiful country before we pop our clogs. I take it that it's not acceptable to dump all our different wastes in the local river then?  wink

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited June 2018 #151

    Debnian, you’ll do just fine. You’ve got the most important thing - a sense of humour. 😀