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  • Vanbirds68
    Vanbirds68 Forum Participant Posts: 149
    edited February 2018 #122

    What’s that bloke going to do with that rock😮?

  • dmiller555
    dmiller555 Forum Participant Posts: 717
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    edited February 2018 #123

    Perhaps a new rule stating that children and dogs should be carried when on site and not allowed to touch the ground would help defuse the situation.

  • SteveL
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    edited February 2018 #124

    Might prove challenging with one of these.😀

  • cyberyacht
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    edited February 2018 #125

    ISTR that dog leads are supposed to me no longer than 1.5m. Draconian enforcement of the rules relating to dogs would have the effect of satisfying the "anti-dog" faction, rooting out the irresponsible owners but have no impact on the responsible ones. By draconian I mean that infringement would result in immediate ejection from the site without refund of fees and, upon a second offence, termination of membership. I am sure responsible dog owners would have no problem with such an approach.

  • Milothedog
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    edited February 2018 #126

    Or perhaps on arrival at the site visitors are asked what their expectations are of the site during their visit. The warden may then be able to advise them this may not be the best place for them cool

     

    Win. Win cool

  • Milothedog
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    edited February 2018 #127

    3 meters, last time I looked.

  • harryb
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    edited February 2018 #128

    If the club didn't allow posts on dogs and children that would definitely defuse the situation.

    They are the two most contentious posts on this forum and have no newness to their content so are a waste of time. 

  • PITCHTOCLOSE
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    edited February 2018 #129

    I think not, every door ,phone box , main office, pot wash, dog walk, both toilet blocks, I think that covers every where there was even one on waste door, you need to open your eye's.

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited February 2018 #130

    Length of leads. There you have a misleading issue. I have always read the Club guidance to be tethering leads to be no longer than 3 metres. Would I walk my dogs on a 3 metre lead around the site? No I would not, far too long to keep control and away from areas I don't want it to be near. Close in walking Site, extended or off lead away from none designated exercise areas. 

  • SteveL
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    edited February 2018 #131

    They are of course only "not new" to those of us who have been on CT for some time. The same could be said for numerous repeat threads. Some controversial, some not.

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited February 2018 #132

    They are not a total waste of time. Every so often someone learns something new. Lots of things to be learned from this thread, that a few people exaggerate the extent of an issue, that the advice on lead length is being misinterpreted, etc......

    I think it was you posted photo of Great Dane Steve? That animal would be considered mutilated in UK. It's ears have been cropped, unlawful in this country. Done to make it look meaner, scare cynophobes to death. Interestingly, ever GD I have met has been as soft as a brush. It's the little yappers and snappers that I give a wide berth to until properly introduced. Size is not a reliable measure of temperament.

  • Bluemalaga
    Bluemalaga Forum Participant Posts: 936
    edited February 2018 #133

    Didn't we try that one last year?

    I do agree there is little newness, but as TTDA says there is some. We have the same unhappiness with some owners who do not follow what appears to be plain and simple rules that should actually be second nature to a responsible owner.

    Then we get the same folk defending the right to allow a dog to mess on site as long as it is mainly cleaned up. Others suggesting it is not such an issue as stated but do agree that the number of dogs allowed to either roam freely or escaped has increased (how do owners know what their dog is doing in these circumstances)

    Then we have the ones who have never seen a loose dog or a dog allowed to poop on site, followed by if you don't like it go elsewhere.

    We have used mainly commercial sites in the last 2 years and I must say it is better, but only marginally.

    Enforcement of the rules is needed, but if we take society as a whole and think about how many drivers still use their phones, how many speed either on site or off etc. etc.

    I guess it is not likely to change but a bit of steam blown off is the best this topic will get.

  • JVB66
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    edited February 2018 #134

    Nice site and with 1600+ pitches shows its not just UK sites that could have problems with the minority of dog ownerssurprised

  • JVB66
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    edited February 2018 #135

    The majority of pecieved "problem"dogs has nothing to do with what are normally good dogs, it is down to lack of responsibilty and training that the owners needs, not the dog and that goes for all sizes and breeds  

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  • Takethedogalong
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    edited February 2018 #137

    We have been members for 30 + years. Seen, heard or witnessed very little in way of any kind of problems with dogs on Club Sites down those years, so I don't consider Club has a major problem on its sites.

    I found AD's link interesting. It's a huge site, and they have come up with a good way of clearly setting out expectations from those visiting with dogs, and trying to be pro active in helping folks who travel with dogs. Free as well. But I suspect the scheme and rules have come about primarily because there may have been issues on the site. Gold star for being so prescriptive and dealing with the issues. 

    A small minority of folks go on holiday and seem to completely abdicate certain responsibilities as they want to relax, chill out, do next to nothing. Not a crime in itself, but it becomes one if there are children and pets involved, and they are not given the attention and guidance to keep them safe, happy and no problem to other visitors. Hence the warning signs on some Cornish beaches about supervising children at all times. 

  • SteveL
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    edited February 2018 #138

    Agree TDA very soft. The father in law used to have one many years ago, that and a miniature Dachshund. The GD was by far the nicest temperament of the two. (Pre digital pictures, hence the one from the net)

    It was somewhat heavy though, I certainly would not have wanted to carry it far, and possessed a lot of Kinetic energy if you got in its way when it got exited on the beach. ( Dogs were allowed at that time)

  • Canenriot
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    edited February 2018 #139

    I was wondering that as well TW .

  • PITCHTOCLOSE
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    edited February 2018 #140

    I have just read a post of yours saying  you have never been to broadway, please be factual and when you do go READ the signs.😡

  • JVB66
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    edited February 2018 #141

    Where did you get that from we use Broadway a least twice a year,maybe you should go to "specsavers" ,we have a dog and have read the couple of signs on the railway boundry fence not "all over the site" as said by yourselveswink

  • Kennine
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    edited February 2018 #142

    I wonder why so many people get so hot and bothered when there is any mention of dog owners failing to control their dogs when on site.  Surely when on holiday we all relax and enjoy our leisure time and if anybody is flaunting the rules it's the paid staff's job to deal with that. It's nothing to do with the rest of us, so just relax and enjoy your time on site. 

    K smile 

  • Grant705
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    edited February 2018 #143

    If someone mentions speeding on site you never get other car drivers jumping in to defend all the non speed merchants. undecided

  • moulesy
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    edited February 2018 #145

    I wonder why folk feel the need to resurrect contentious threads like this a couple of days after they seem to have died a natural death? undecided

  • Wherenext
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    edited February 2018 #146

    I was going to answer that question, M, but realised that I would become part of the problem so I won't bother now.

  • Grant705
    Grant705 Forum Participant Posts: 164
    edited February 2018 #147

    Off course I have but if I mentioned I'd seen a speeding driver on a site  I don't believe that I would be inundated by others questioning my eyesight.  laughing

  • Cornersteady
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    edited February 2018 #148

    but who is defending poor dog owners?

    Piehaps you could post a quote?

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited February 2018 #149

    What had that got to do with the topic? Absolutely zilch.

    Are you bored today? undecided

  • Grant705
    Grant705 Forum Participant Posts: 164
    edited February 2018 #150

     I'm not saying anyone is defending poor dog owners but simply saying that many dog owners don't believe it when it is reported. 

     

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited February 2018 #151

    I don’t believe in fairies but that’s not to say they don’t exist. laughing

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