Types of CLs

We haven't taken delivery of our MH yet but when we do I can see us mainly using CL's because we prefer the less commercial rural theme they seem to have.

When we do book we'll defiantly want EHU, Dog friendly, a toilet block, peace & quite. As a secondary importance we'd want public transport nearby, a rural setting, good T/V reception and a local Pub. 

Not too big a wish list is it.

We very rarely use club sites prefering CLs. But we have got fussier over the years wishing for: EHU, views, hopefully reasonably flat pitches as the air awning doesn't like sloping ground.

Hardstanding NOT wanted!  IMHO they spoil what is essentially a rural experience.  I accept that in the dead of winter when its been very wet, they have their uses. But if a HS is essential for you, then stick to a CC site.

The provision of HS must put up the cost to the site owner, which in turn means to us.  I will even accept for short stays no EHU, but do prefer them.

TF

Please don't tell me or others which sites to stick to, TF. 

Have you considered the reverse opinion that provision of HS will probably increase the amount of business the CL owner gets so won't necessarily increase site fees? No, you clearly haven't. 

A couple of HS maketh not a supermarket car park. 

TW, Why do you always take personal umbrage?  I never ctiticise you or anyone else, but you seem to love to personalise all counter views to your own!

I accept that your views often differ to mine, and until now have never commented on your responses because I respect your freedom to disagree. Please show me a similar courtesy!

TF

You criticise plenty, TF, and for someone who says he respects differing opinions you have a strange way of showing it as you appear to want to control various situations in the way it suits you. 

That's a very good point, oakapple. We don't specifically seek out Cls with HS but then we've only got a fairly small van so unless conditions are very poor we're unlikely to do much damage on the grass. But you're certainly correct that with bigger and heavier outfits now becoming the norm the inconvenience caused by such damage must be a big factor in deciding to install HS.

Definate HS and prefrably EHU. M/H are notoriously bad on the dampest and least slope.

TW, - Rubbish.! 

You are letting yourself down.  I do not, and never will, try to impose my personal opinions on anyone else. Even you.

I suggest that you stop trying to put others down who's opinions you do not agree with. And take the personal element out of all debates.

Constructional debate can only be a good thing. And to recognise alternative views without descending into personal acrimony is even better.

TF

OK, TF, let's try to keep this factual rather than the along the lines of the pot calling kettle black personal comments the posts have become.

I honestly believe you have no idea that your posts often appear controlling and patronising. Let me give you some examples and explain my thoughts as we go.

You said "Hardstanding NOT wanted!". You shouted the word 'not' and it gave the appearance of stating a fact rather than your personal opinion. You followed this with "if a HS is essential for you, then stick to a CC site". Can you not
see that has the tone of an order? It's probably unintended but that doesn't lessen the impact of the words.

Your reply to my first post was factually incorrect although I chose not to comment on that earlier. I have not taken personal umbrage with you or your words but speak from the indignation that arises due to the way you sometimes address us all. As for not
previously commenting on my responses, you have done so on many an occasion.

Your last post started in an unfortunate way with "Rubbish.! ". I remember being taught at school that it was the height of rudeness to say that to someone rather than countering their points with reasoned debate. Within that post you say you are
not trying to impose your opinions on others. That may well be the case but I've demonstrated above how the appearance can be to the contrary. Constructional debate is indeed good but a controlling attitude, even if unintentional, is not.

I'm fairly new to the CC - 6 years or so - and I didn't have any preconceptions about CLs.  They are just 5 van sites and bound to vary immensely.

I look for location first, access from the road network second, facilities third and price fourth.  I prefer HS but can live with grass at the right price.

I don't see them as others do I don't think. I certainly don't look for rural areas, views, etc. 

I think the point TF was trying to make is that CLs have a different ambience ....

I never found a CL which had any sort of ambience at all. Just bits of fields, aren't they? 

 

EuT, don't diss the Bear Grylls LV'ers