Types of CLs
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I think the point TF was trying to make is that CLs have a different ambience ....
I never found a CL which had any sort of ambience at all. Just bits of fields, aren't they?
Well they certainly have a lot more "ambience" than the car park caravan sites that seem to be the order of things these days. Meaning of Ambience:- the character of
a place....Cambridge Dictionary or The character and atmosphere of a place.....Oxford Dictionary0 -
Who would have thought that the humble CL could cause so much controversy and apparent division of opinion? Voicing an opinion of your preferences for a CL is just that an opinion, it is not a blueprint for all CLs. This thread proves once more that we all
have different priorities when choosing a CL and thank goodness at the moment we can all be accommodated.
Long may the CLs remain, with all their diversity.
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Has anyone considered that hard standings may have been put in for the site owners convenience? It's not fun for anyone when a vehicle or caravan gets stuck in soft ground. Breakdown vehicles that are called to tow the unit out cause even more damage. Perhaps
it's worth the money installing hard standings to make it more stress free for the site owner.
An interesting way of looking at the possible need for hardstandings.
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N1805 I do agree that under some circumstances such as you describe hardstandings can be of assistance to the owner in preserving his/her ground. I have stayed on some very wet sites where even moving the caravan on the mover has caused the jockey wheel
to dig a deep furrow. So in those circumstances very definately yes.What I have been trying to emphasise is that the rural/natural ambience of CLs needs to be preserved, faciliating the ability to park any which way you want, and not resulting in the regimentation that is so evident on club sites today.
TF
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The CL network is the reason that many Customers pay a subscription fee to the CC Leisure Industry.
Cl's are a private enterprise and a small part of the owners business. CL's offer caravanners an area where they can pitch up while they tour the area around. - within a rural environment . They are NOT and were never meant to be all singing all dancing caravan parks, thats not their purpose.
That some people dont like this, is a matter of personal choice. Lets keep CLs as they are. If people want vans all perfectly lined up in rows. Public Lavatories and Showers, made up tarmac roads, large areas of unsightly gravel and all the other bling, which it seems some people cannot do without, they can have that in huge numbers by using any one of the hundreds of Caravan Parks.
Cheers ...........K
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AD, I remember you showing us some photos of camp sites overseas & they were lined up cheek by jowl. Others have posted the same. I guess it's not really much different over there, choice is the best weapon. Same with the EHU/Showers/Toilets on CL's no 'one
size fits all' I've stopped at CL's that were all singing/all dancing in remote locations. Different strokes etc, we all view things differently
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AD, I remember you showing us some photos of camp sites overseas & they were lined up cheek by jowl. Others have posted the same. I guess it's not really much different over there, choice is the best weapon. Same with the EHU/Showers/Toilets on CL's no 'one
size fits all' I've stopped at CL's that were all singing/all dancing in remote locations. Different strokes etc, we all view things differentlyRemind me which site that was
I ain't Marvo the memory man
, there have been a lot & I can't remember the names of even one of em
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To redress the balance I remember photos with hedges around Vans from you & others too-can't remember the names of those either
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Whoa there AD, 'Stalking' is a very big & nasty accusation to bandy about without proof. If you truly think I've done that then you should report me, in fact I'd like you to do just that. I can't remember the last time I posted to you. Another tip-check
out the meaning of 'Stalker' in a dictionary, you seem to be confused.0 -
You assumed wrong, my post was regarding the similarity of sites & how they look to each person. I then followed it up with a further post to even the balance to ensure it was fair to you-that is not the actions of a Stalker or someone intending to be personal.
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N1805 I do agree that under some circumstances such as you describe hardstandings can be of assistance to the owner in preserving his/her ground. I have stayed on some very wet sites where even moving the caravan on the mover has caused the jockey wheel
to dig a deep furrow. So in those circumstances very definately yes.What I have been trying to emphasise is that the rural/natural ambience of CLs needs to be preserved, faciliating the ability to park any which way you want, and not resulting in the regimentation that is so evident on club sites today.
TF
But surely TF, that doesn't preclude the use of H/S, does it. It all depends on the way that the whole site is set out. Some all grass sites can be just as regimented as ones with H/S!
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Nellie, Once again I'm not going to die in a ditch over this one. I have said time after time my only concern is the preservation of the essentially rural ambiance of the CL. Now if you really want that to include hardstandings, EHU's showers, toilet blocks, christmas lights etc etc, I will happily leave that one to you. Luckily there are plenty of other CL's that I can use if I am not happy with the sort that you want.
Surely the main point of this organisation is that it can cater for a varity of tasts. I do not now, and actually never have, demanded that members agree with me. This is and must remain a matter of personal taste and preferences. I want it quiet, rural and unspoilt. If you want it different that's fine, I'm sure that we can all cope with both styles!
TF
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Just returned from Barleywood, motorhome and tag axle on the site at the same time as us and not a hardstanding in sight. IMO I think hardstandings would spoil the visual panorama of this particular site. I suppose that it pretty much depends on the how
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I am an avid CL user and have found the only thing they have in common is that they should only accept 5 units and provide a chemical/waste disposal point. All other facilities and options can vary quite widely. I do not know the actual % of sites with showers, toilets or hard-standings but I do know that those of you who prefer a basic site are well catered for because when I search for a site in my chosen area using the CC map, there are only a small number of sites with the toilet symbol and even fewer have a shower.
It has been suggested that wanting too many facilities on CLs will be their downfall but I think that members not using them will seal their fate. The large commercial sites have been offering large discounts in “off peak” months that have tempted some members away from CLs. These type of site are not for me, I prefer the quieter 5 unit sites but each to his own.
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Nellie, Once again I'm not going to die in a ditch over this one. I have said time after time my only concern is the preservation of the essentially rural ambiance of the CL. Now if you really want that to include hardstandings, EHU's showers, toilet blocks,
christmas lights etc etc, I will happily leave that one to you. Luckily there are plenty of other CL's that I can use if I am not happy with the sort that you want.Surely the main point of this organisation is that it can cater for a varity of tasts. I do not now, and actually never have, demanded that members agree with me. This is and must remain a matter of personal taste and preferences. I want it quiet, rural
and unspoilt. If you want it different that's fine, I'm sure that we can all cope with both styles!TF
TF, we do not want all sing, all dancing CL's, but we do like EHU all year round, & H/S during the winter months. If you look at my reviews you will see that we use all types of sites, and the vast majority of them have what you call rural ambience.
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I am an avid CL user and have found the only thing they have in common is that they should only accept 5 units and provide a chemical/waste disposal point. All other facilities and options can vary quite widely. I do not know the actual
% of sites with showers, toilets or hard-standings but I do know that those of you who prefer a basic site are well catered for because when I search for a site in my chosen area using the CC map, there are only a small number of sites with the toilet symbol
and even fewer have a shower.It has been suggested that wanting too many facilities on CLs will be their downfall but I think that members not using them will seal their fate. The large commercial sites have been offering large discounts in “off peak” months that have tempted some members
away from CLs. These type of site are not for me, I prefer the quieter 5 unit sites but each to his own.If only that was the case! More and more are allowing more than 5 vans on their sites, unfortunately.
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We like a lovely location, plenty of room and a decent price. Got that in spades last weekend, the whole of the lower section of Bolton Abbey to ourselves. HS is definitely a bonus in Winter, especially with dogs. Last CL we used had left grass far too long,
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Nellie, by the sound of it, actually we are not too far apart, because I only use EHU fitted sites too! Medical requirements mean that I need mains electric.
As I said the CC is a very broad church and can cater for most requirements.
TF
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Nellie, by the sound of it, actually we are not too far apart, because I only use EHU fitted sites too! Medical requirements mean that I need mains electric.
As I said the CC is a very broad church and can cater for most requirements.
TF
I'm sure that we like the same sort of sites, TF. All I was trying to do was point out that others require more than we do, but still consider that they sharing in the ambience of the countyside.
I fully agree with you last sentence, too.
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I am an avid CL user and have found the only thing they have in common is that they should only accept 5 units and provide a chemical/waste disposal point. All other facilities and options can vary quite widely. I do not know the actual
% of sites with showers, toilets or hard-standings but I do know that those of you who prefer a basic site are well catered for because when I search for a site in my chosen area using the CC map, there are only a small number of sites with the toilet symbol
and even fewer have a shower.It has been suggested that wanting too many facilities on CLs will be their downfall but I think that members not using them will seal their fate. The large commercial sites have been offering large discounts in “off peak” months that have tempted some members
away from CLs. These type of site are not for me, I prefer the quieter 5 unit sites but each to his own.If only that was the case! More and more are allowing more than 5 vans on their sites, unfortunately.
Write your comments here...Agree Nellie. We've stayed on 4 this year that have exceeded the 5 rule and as you know most of our touring this year has been abroad, so 4 out of 8 Cl's is a high proportion.
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May I be allowed to comment, because all my Caravanning is overseas these days - usually on small sites. I am an outsider. Sorry.
But it does strike me that more and more contributors on here are rather obsessive about the figure five. I enjoy small sites regardless of how many other people are there, but it does seem that some people get too easily upset if the magic figure is not
met.Tin hat time?
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If only that was the case! More and more are allowing more than 5 vans on their sites, unfortunately.
Write your comments here...Agree Nellie. We've stayed on 4 this year that have exceeded the 5 rule and as you know most of our touring this year has been abroad, so 4 out of 8 Cl's is a high proportion.
I must admit that one of the CLs we visited this year also had six units for three or four nights during our two week stay. The site had plenty of space and this did not spoil our stay, in fact we would return again if visiting
that area.
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May I be allowed to comment, because all my Caravanning is overseas these days - usually on small sites. I am an outsider. Sorry.
But it does strike me that more and more contributors on here are rather obsessive about the figure five. I enjoy small sites regardless of how many other people are there, but it does seem that some people get too easily upset if the magic figure is not
met.Tin hat time?
No tin hat needed for me ET, if the site is large enough to provide plenty of space between units I am willing to turn a blind eye, especially in high season.
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2 of the sitesthat had more than 5 on were quite large sites where an extra van didn't impinge on privacy etc but there were other cls in the area that may have been deprived of business. One site that accomodated us for just 1 night en route would have
seen us move to another cl such was the overcramping if we had been staying any length of time. It just makes life easier if you know there's only going to be 5 on site.0
