Types of CLs
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We haven't taken delivery of our MH yet but when we do I can see us mainly using CL's because we prefer the less commercial rural theme they seem to have.
When we do book we'll defiantly want EHU, Dog friendly, a toilet block, peace & quite. As a secondary importance we'd want public transport nearby, a rural setting, good T/V reception and a local Pub.
Not too big a wish list is it.
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I like your humour, FB.
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Should be fun searching then out FB.
If you have anywhere in mind don't hesitste to ask and some of us will be able to help you. I'd definitely
add Hardstanding to your list, at least at the beginning.0 -
I like the ones where they speak French.
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Hardstanding NOT wanted! IMHO they spoil what is essentially a rural experience. I accept that in the dead of winter when its been very wet, they have their uses. But if a HS is essential for you, then stick to a CC site.
The provision of HS must put up the cost to the site owner, which in turn means to us. I will even accept for short stays no EHU, but do prefer them.
TF
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Hardstanding NOT wanted! IMHO they spoil what is essentially a rural experience. I accept that in the dead of winter when its been very wet, they have their uses. But if a HS is essential for you, then stick to a CC site.
The provision of HS must put up the cost to the site owner, which in turn means to us. I will even accept for short stays no EHU, but do prefer them.
TF
Well, that just goes to show what a diverse bunch we are
It's the opposite for us: with a MH we definitely want HS in the wetter months; one reason is that we'd hate to damage any grass on a site/CL, and the other of course that we wouldn't want to get bogged down. Even in summer, if it's been wet, then grass
would not be our first choice. As for EHU, even in winter, with solar panels it's not a necessity for a few days. In summer, most definitely no EHU needed!At the end of the day it's just as well we're not all the same in our needs/wants.
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Hardstanding NOT wanted! IMHO they spoil what is essentially a rural experience. I accept that in the dead of winter when its been very wet, they have their uses. But if a HS is essential for you, then stick to a CC site.
The provision of HS must put up the cost to the site owner, which in turn means to us. I will even accept for short stays no EHU, but do prefer them.
TF
Please don't tell me or others which sites to stick to, TF.
Have you considered the reverse opinion that provision of HS will probably increase the amount of business the CL owner gets so won't necessarily increase site fees? No, you clearly haven't.
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Hard standing is not on our priority list. Neither is an all singing all dancing toilet and shower block. Our van already has a great toilet and shower.
The beauty of CLs are that the best ones are rural and unspoiled.
There are thousands of caravan sites which cater for those who like the Supermarket car park look and have a preference for using public lavatories.
Cheers..........K
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A couple of HS maketh not a supermarket car park.
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TW, Why do you always take personal umbrage? I never ctiticise you or anyone else, but you seem to love to personalise all counter views to your own!
I accept that your views often differ to mine, and until now have never commented on your responses because I respect your freedom to disagree. Please show me a similar courtesy!
TF
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TW, Why do you always take personal umbrage? I never ctiticise you or anyone else, but you seem to love to personalise all counter views to your own!
I accept that your views often differ to mine, and until now have never commented on your responses because I respect your freedom to disagree. Please show me a similar courtesy!
TF
You criticise plenty, TF, and for someone who says he respects differing opinions you have a strange way of showing it as you appear to want to control various situations in the way it suits you.
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Has anyone considered that hard standings may have been put in for the site owners convenience? It's not fun for anyone when a vehicle or caravan gets stuck in soft ground. Breakdown vehicles that are called to tow the unit out cause even more damage. Perhaps
it's worth the money installing hard standings to make it more stress free for the site owner.
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That's a very good point, oakapple. We don't specifically seek out Cls with HS but then we've only got a fairly small van so unless conditions are very poor we're unlikely to do much damage on the grass. But you're certainly correct that with bigger and heavier outfits now becoming the norm the inconvenience caused by such damage must be a big factor in deciding to install HS.
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...but (due to changing demograpics) isn't there a move towards ever lighter vans that can be towed by ever lighter cars....
and many mass market MHs must now come in with a decent payload at 3.5t...
yes, there will always be a market for larger more luxurious and heavy vans, but with younger families taking up touring but not having the license groups to drive larger vehicles, the pressure will increase on manufacturers.
however, back to the OP....
just a personal view, but im not really a fan of CLs being pushed ever further upmarket in terms of facilities...
HS, EHU, toilets, showers, what next...a shop, a swimming pool, entertainment in the clubhouse....
of course most wont go to these extremes but adding expensive facilities will surely pass costs back to the customer, making the 'cheap and cheerful' CL possibly a thing of the past?
personally, a nicely mown field (CDP and recycling/waste) is sufficient for us, but respect others desires to have similar facilities to club sites.
however, for us its the location of a CL that drives the choice, we will take whatever services it has (or doesnt have) provided its in the right place and the costs of any 'improvements' dont push the price beyond something realistic....
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We use a couple of CL's that are all grass, both of them are open all year, however they both have a drive that should the grass be too soft and wet in the off season you can park to oneside on the drive. There is still access to EHU and water and the views
are just the same. If they were to put in H/S pitches on these CL's I think it would be very costly due to the size of the field, an access road would have to be built across it first and then individual pitches. IMO it would spoilt the whole feel of the CL,
I'm not a lover of grass now we have a M/H but a grass CL gives much more flexability for pitching.0 -
I can understand why some would prefer hard-standings on a CL especially for motorhome owners.
My preference is for an all grass field but I have stayed at many CLs with hard standings, for me it is location, facilities and price that matter most.
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I can understand why some would prefer hard-standings on a CL especially for motorhome owners.
My preference is for an all grass field but I have stayed at many CLs with hard standings, for me it is location, facilities and price that matter most.
Same for me, but must admit that during the winter or if it has been very wet we do like to use H/S pitches.
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TW, - Rubbish.!
You are letting yourself down. I do not, and never will, try to impose my personal opinions on anyone else. Even you.
I suggest that you stop trying to put others down who's opinions you do not agree with. And take the personal element out of all debates.
Constructional debate can only be a good thing. And to recognise alternative views without descending into personal acrimony is even better.
TF
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TW, - Rubbish.!
You are letting yourself down. I do not, and never will, try to impose my personal opinions on anyone else. Even you.
I suggest that you stop trying to put others down who's opinions you do not agree with. And take the personal element out of all debates.
Constructional debate can only be a good thing. And to recognise alternative views without descending into personal acrimony is even better.
TF
OK, TF, let's try to keep this factual rather than the along the lines of the pot calling kettle black personal comments the posts have become.
I honestly believe you have no idea that your posts often appear controlling and patronising. Let me give you some examples and explain my thoughts as we go.
You said "Hardstanding NOT wanted!". You shouted the word 'not' and it gave the appearance of stating a fact rather than your personal opinion. You followed this with "if a HS is essential for you, then stick to a CC site". Can you not
see that has the tone of an order? It's probably unintended but that doesn't lessen the impact of the words.Your reply to my first post was factually incorrect although I chose not to comment on that earlier. I have not taken personal umbrage with you or your words but speak from the indignation that arises due to the way you sometimes address us all. As for not
previously commenting on my responses, you have done so on many an occasion.Your last post started in an unfortunate way with "Rubbish.! ". I remember being taught at school that it was the height of rudeness to say that to someone rather than countering their points with reasoned debate. Within that post you say you are
not trying to impose your opinions on others. That may well be the case but I've demonstrated above how the appearance can be to the contrary. Constructional debate is indeed good but a controlling attitude, even if unintentional, is not.0 -
I think the point TF was trying to make is that CLs have a different ambience which generally don't include HS. If the pressure for 'singing and dancing CLs with HS' becomes overwhelming, it leaves no alternatives for those who would wish to retain simplicity
as CLs would then have become the same as Club Sites, just smaller. I, for one, would mourn the passing of the simple CL.0 -
I'm fairly new to the CC - 6 years or so - and I didn't have any preconceptions about CLs. They are just 5 van sites and bound to vary immensely.
I look for location first, access from the road network second, facilities third and price fourth. I prefer HS but can live with grass at the right price.
I don't see them as others do I don't think. I certainly don't look for rural areas, views, etc.
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I think the point TF was trying to make is that CLs have a different ambience ....
I never found a CL which had any sort of ambience at all. Just bits of fields, aren't they?
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I think the point TF was trying to make is that CLs have a different ambience ....
I never found a CL which had any sort of ambience at all. Just bits of fields, aren't they?
EuT, don't diss the Bear Grylls LV'ers
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We don't have a solar panel so ehu is important, also tap and waste disposal in the damper times of year a hard standing is also important.Farms are work places, animals and machinary are part of their enviroment, if you dont want to get muddy stay away
other wise each to their own, use them or lose them.0
