Why do we have a Club Chaplain?

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  • DSB
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    edited April 2016 #92

    I'll try and answer that Tinwheeler.  Hope I don't breach the guidelines.  An Anglican parish priest (strictly speaking, the vicar) has the care of all souls within his/her parish irrespective of specific religious or even non-religious beliefs.  I would expect an Anglican priest who takes on such a voluntary position to exercise similar care towards the organisation to which he or she has volunteered.

    In other words, I would expect her role to be non-denominational.  This would be my personal understanding.

    David

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited April 2016 #93

    Thanks, David.

  • huskydog
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    edited April 2016 #94

    I think that this thread shows why religion should not be discussed on CT ,as it is such an emotive subject and we all have our own believes that are personal to us

    A lot of other companys have chaplins ,so should we stop using them???

    We have to do what each of us feel is the right choice for that situation.............

  • JayEss
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    edited April 2016 #95

    I think that this thread shows why religion should not be discussed on CT ,as it is such an emotive subject and we all have our own believes that are personal to us

    A lot of other companys have chaplins ,so should we stop using them???

    We have to do what each of us feel is the right choice for that situation.............

    My last word on this thread

    I did not start this thread to discuss religion.  I was seeking clarification about the organisation and governance of a club that I have paid subs to for quite a few years.

    I have no issue with the role of chaplain within the club if that is what is required by members.  However many seemed to be unaware of the existence of said chaplain until yesterday...

    I never suggested that there shouldn't be a chaplain and I agree that it is up to others to make their own choices.  I have made mine which is personal and the right choice for me. 

     

  • RochelleCC
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    edited April 2016 #96

    I would have to agree with David and say that the Chaplain's role is non-denominational

    Rochelle

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited April 2016 #97

    HD, I think you'll find the exact opposite has happened on this thread. 96 posts, no abuse, no Religion kicking & no Religious fervour. I'd say it was a thread that proves respect for belief & none belief is alive & well on CTHappy.
    intelligent people know it takes all sorts to make a world, & they respect all of them.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited April 2016 #98

    I would have to agree with David and say that the Chaplain's role is non-denominational

    Rochelle

    Thanks, Rochelle.

    Although not really the point of this thread, I think it would be good if the Rev Charlton were to tell us about her CC related activities to let the membership know what she does, and to let us know of her existence as most were unaware. I appreciate the
    forum may not be the best place for that but perhaps in Stories or a magazine article.

  • Metheven
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    edited April 2016 #99

    Can I add my thanks for the explanation, that was all I was interested in Smile Not my thread and no intention was ever made to discuss religion, just an answer to a question from a concerned / interested member.

  • huskydog
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    edited April 2016 #100

    OK, the club has a chaplin ,IMO i cant see how this will change my use of the club and it's services.....................

  • Metheven
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    edited April 2016 #101

    Good for you HD, some it may and some it may not. The question was asked as to the role and was answered.

    On a personal note it won't affect me neither.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited April 2016 #102

    Can I add my thanks for the explanation, that was all I was interested in Smile Not my thread and no intention was ever made to discuss religion,
    just an answer to a question from a concerned / interested member.

    I agree, Dave. I'm interested in the role of the Chaplain and understanding that will let us see why CC believe it's a necessary one. 

  • Kennine
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    edited April 2016 #103

    Thanks for the explanation Rochelle,  On the CC rallies I attended there were always church services on a Sunday morning held on the rally field. It was not compulsory to attend so some did some didnt.

    If having a Priest on a rally is of  help to somebody then it can only be a good thing.

    K

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  • Metheven
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    edited April 2016 #105

    Now the thread is finished with, who blew your trumpet and my time has nothing to do with you, butt out.

    You see Rochelle, this is antagonism by a the usual suspect.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited April 2016 #106

    100+ Posts on a non issue like this, I think some have  too much time on thier hands

    For goodness sake, David! It is not a non-issue to some. Have some respect for the OP. As for time on their hands - your irony gene is in overdrive again. Talk about inappropriate!

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  • TonyCSolihull
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    edited April 2016 #108

    I see the Chaplain provides advice to the Chairman and Exec. Still did the TV programme though :)

  • Wildwood
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    edited April 2016 #109

    Assuming his services are free I see no problem. The club has far greater things to deal with than worrying about that.

  • huskydog
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    edited April 2016 #110

    I see the sainsburys have a Chaplin ,but it won't stop me shopping there, most large company's have them, for some reason.......

  • G7ACU
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    edited April 2016 #111

    Hi all.

    As a very infrequent user of Club Together, I wasn't aware of this interesting discussion until this evening. As hubby to the subject of debate though, I thought you might appreciate the following response from the old gal herself ...

    Hi all.

    Having recently been made aware of this discussion on Club Together, I've now read the full thread with some interest, but cannot reply directly as to log on I have to be the primary club member - that honour is Paul's alone.

    I guess it's just a discussion that is simply asking why do we have a club Chaplain. I assume it was an historical position as I believe there has only been two prior to me; my predecessor, Revd Canon Steph Roberts, having fulfilled the role since 1988.

    I'm have to say that as I work full time in parish, my help to members is unfortunately limited, but I may be contacted via head office. Chaplaincy for me includes pastoral care and a confidential ear to those with faith and those without. I have many
    years of working in multi faith environments - from schools, prisons, hospitals and parish. Nothing surprises me now!

    Following Steph's retirement, I was approached by East Grinstead initially to conduct the church service at the National at Cornbury; subsequently I was invited to take on the role of Chaplain. As a result I have been asked to run services for special
    events over the yeas rather than everyday rallies. Such activity happened to include last year's Southern Centres bi-annual rally where judging cakes and handicrafts was an unexpected delight (where I was caught on camera....). In addition I was asked to be
    a member of Club Council, which as you will be aware is a voluntary role.

    Both my husband Paul and I, with our daughter, work with our local centre on the committee and we rally as often as our circumstances allow.

    Revd Hazel

    I'm sure they will be some further conversation, but please bear with, if a quick reply isn't forthcoming.


  • DSB
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    edited April 2016 #112

    Thank you for the response Paul.  Please thank Hazel on our behalf.

    Regards 

    David

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited April 2016 #113

    What an excellent post from both G7(facillitating duties) & rev'd Hazel. Thankyou both for taking the time. For me personally it is an eye opener as I never knew of this role in life generally let alone CC specific, yup, everyday is a School dayHappy.
    You obviously do your duties well & selflessly. It is a pleasure to know of you both. Fascinating. Thanks againSmile.

  • Oneputt
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    edited April 2016 #114

    Thank you Rev Hazel and welcome to CT via Paul.

  • Cornersteady
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    edited April 2016 #115

    Yes, thanks very much for coming on.

  • Kennine
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    edited April 2016 #116

    Nice to hear from the Priest herself.

    Thank you Hazel for joining in this discussion and explaining your duties so eloquently. 

    I wish you well in your work.

    K 

  • Metheven
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    edited April 2016 #117

    I echo the sentiments here, thanks for explaining the role of a Chaplain within the Club, regards
    Smile

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited April 2016 #118

    Thankyou both for taking the time to post. Rev Hazel, you've explained a lot and it's been an eye opener for me. I feel it's a shame CC have failed to publicised your role as, not only did we not know what you did, we didn't know of your existence. They
    should raise your profile. Thanks again for enlightening us.

  • G7ACU
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    edited April 2016 #119

    Hi one and all.

    Thanks for your replies and comments, all of which 'er indoors' has read and appreciates. As said, I have rarely dibbed into CT, however I'll perhaps drop by more. Nice to see DSB on here, I used to enjoy David's contributions on another forum I frequent.

    Best wishes to you all and with any luck we might meet up at either the National or similar event maybe .. we'll be in the beer tent
    LaughingInnocent

  • DSB
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    edited April 2016 #120

    Hi one and all.

    Thanks for your replies and comments, all of which 'er indoors' has read and appreciates. As said, I have rarely dibbed into CT, however I'll perhaps drop by more. Nice to see DSB on here, I used to enjoy David's contributions on another forum I frequent.

    Best wishes to you all and with any luck we might meet up at either the National or similar event maybe .. we'll be in the beer tent
    LaughingInnocent

    It's been ages since I've taken an active part on UKCS, Paul.  I find it virtually impossible to contribute to more than one forum, and as I was asked to be a Champion on CT, this is where I come these days.   Good to hear from you.  Do keep in touch.

    Regards 

    David

  • Ewescool
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    edited April 2016 #121

    I've found this an interesting thread, though somewhat from an outsider's point of view, being both a non-Christian and an active member of my own faith.

    It's a pity that the CC hasn't publicised this particular post and its incumbent as people who may have been in need of the services of a chaplain at stressful times haven't been aware that we had one. Even an official email address provided via the Club
    would be a good start.

    I'm far more aware of the role of military chaplains as a friend to all and of police chaplains who can deploy to incidents to be a listening friend. Sometimes that is all a person needs in a stressful situation and a Club Chaplain who could provide that
    to members in a stressful situation (for instance where someone has taken seriously ill or injured on site) would be a boon.

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