How does this Club compare with the ‘Other’?

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  • DianneT
    DianneT Forum Participant Posts: 521
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    edited December 2015 #272

    I would advise the C&CC to be very careful in their choice of moderators. On other forums there have been instances of moderators having their own little clique of followers. Therefore the idea of impartiality in the way they do their moderation is missing.
    Fortunately there is generally only one out of the team who is like that, but they, by their actions tend lower the respect that the forum members have for the whole moderation team, which is a real shame as the others do a good job.

    K

    Some caravan forums are well run, have members who enjoy themselves, respect each other and don't need Moderators.

    DianneT

  • huskydog
    huskydog Club Member Posts: 5,460 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    edited December 2015 #273

    I would advise the C&CC to be very careful in their choice of moderators. On other forums there have been instances of moderators having their own little clique of followers. Therefore the idea of impartiality in the way they do their moderation is missing.
    Fortunately there is generally only one out of the team who is like that, but they, by their actions tend lower the respect that the forum members have for the whole moderation team, which is a real shame as the others do a good job.

    K

    Some caravan forums are well run, have members who enjoy themselves, respect each other and don't need Moderators.

    DianneT

    That's if they allow you to join in the first placeUndecided. Use left and right arrows to navigate.

  • Rocky 2 buckets
    Rocky 2 buckets Forum Participant Posts: 7,101
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    edited December 2015 #274

    HD, did you find out why your application was rejected?

  • huskydog
    huskydog Club Member Posts: 5,460 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    edited December 2015 #275

    HD, did you find out why your application was rejected?

    No , never was told why ,not very professional.....but they must have their reason

  • MichaelT
    MichaelT Forum Participant Posts: 1,874
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    edited December 2015 #276

    HD, did you find out why your application was rejected?

    No , never was told why ,not very professional.....but they must have their reason

    Write your comments here...Obviously dont allow too many dogs on site, only 1 per pitchSticking Tongue Out

  • JohnDH
    JohnDH Forum Participant Posts: 183
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    edited December 2015 #277

    Here is an edited reply from the C &CC forum manager regarding my security and user name concerns.

    sic. Once you have logged on to the forum you will automatically be registered as a user of it. It is members only and your data would be completly secure and in no way linked to bookings.

    We are currently looking at adapting the forum so that real names would not be used.



    In other words they don't have your prior permission to use your name and join, you are a member of the forum even if you just sign in to look. You have not signed up for T&Cs and by using your real name you will be vulnerable to anyone who chooses to
    track who you are.

    The forum doesn't appear to be safely user ready yet and I don't have confidence that it is secure.

    I hope it gets off the ground but I think it isn't quite properly prepared at the moment.

    Even MI5 would probably not claim to be completly secure. I think the ccc forum manager doesnt understand the words 'privacy' or 'secure'.




    Sad to say, but thus far, imho of course, its a cock-up.

  • DavidKlyne
    DavidKlyne Club Member Posts: 13,860 ✭✭✭
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    edited December 2015 #278

    I have been a bit busy today so have just looked on the C&CC site and I have had a reply about my privacy concerns. I previously mentioned about real names being user names and after that mentioned about real names being seen if only browsing the forum.
    Reading between the lines they have had a lot of feedback from members on this subject and are clearly having a rethink. No idea how that will manifest itself.

    David

  • brue
    brue Forum Participant Posts: 21,176 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    edited December 2015 #279

    The main problem appears to be, apart from real names on view, is that just by logging on to the main site and browsing/reading the forum you have become a forum member. No warning about this or explanation given and your name will appear on the "people on line" list.

    edit I think I will leave it that, I can't look at the forum again as I don't want my name to appear and I didn't want to be a forum member.

  • JohnDH
    JohnDH Forum Participant Posts: 183
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    edited December 2015 #280

    the ccc might concider pulling the forum until its sorted. Sooner rather than later is best for them and their members.

     

  • peedee
    peedee Club Member Posts: 9,387 ✭✭✭
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    edited December 2015 #281

    So, are people saying that using my real name on the C&CC website i am going to be scammed ,robbed,  beaten up or followed?????, oh,i had better watch my backSurprised

    P.S, Huskydog is my step nameWink

    My real fear would be it could lead to identity theft. Why make it easy for anyone by displaying real names.

    peedee

  • peedee
    peedee Club Member Posts: 9,387 ✭✭✭
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    edited December 2015 #282

    Looks like the C&Cc forum is poorly planned and implemented.  Its doomed before it starts.  My advice would be for them to invest in  proper commercially produced forum software and run it as a separate entity.  

    I thought GTP said it was an add on of a commercially based product most of which allow some tailoring to meet the owners use.

    peedee

  • JohnDH
    JohnDH Forum Participant Posts: 183
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    edited December 2015 #283

    Peedee, it makes it even more important to delete ones date of birth from facebook. The combination of those two are dynamite.

  • briantimber
    briantimber Forum Participant Posts: 1,653
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    edited December 2015 #284

    I would like to be able to view threads without having to sign in as per CT. If usernames are to be the norm, then this should be possible, then if I want to make a comment on any particular thread I will have to sign in to the forum......Cool

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited December 2015 #285

    Sounds like a "Burglars Almanac" to me, touring club, with members who might keep their outfit at home, personal details available to all and sundry, you couldn't make it up really. They can even burgle to order: nice area, perhaps teenage children, plenty of IT equipment and expensive media stuff around, member of such and such a club, so expensive sports gear going begging, maybe a nice car left on drive, maybe wife/ husbands nice car left on drive. Even photos available if using a third party hosting site! A savvy fifteen year old brought  TalkTalk to its knees, a complete numpty could use just a name to get all they need.

  • briantimber
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    edited December 2015 #286

    Peedee, it makes it even more important to delete ones date of birth from facebook. The combination of those two are dynamite.

    Don't use backache full stop.....Cool

  • Wildwood
    Wildwood Club Member Posts: 3,581 ✭✭✭✭
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    edited December 2015 #287

    are CT members that use their 'real names' (rather than a pseudonym) more 'at risk' than those that dont?

    if so, why?

    this has been mentioned as a reason for not using the C&CC forum, yet a great many use 'real names' on CT.

    Some expressing concern are using 'real names' on CT, so whats the specific difference?

    if its an issue, should they stop using CT, or change their login 'name'?

     

    If you use your real name do not show your location. Without your location finding you is very difficult but you should also keep your date of birth secret. If you are looking at burglars then you should have no problem. They would have to spend hours trying
    to find enough information on someone in their area and it almost certsinly would not justify the effort.

    Leave enough information on you on the web though and identity theft is always a potential problem. 

  • huskydog
    huskydog Club Member Posts: 5,460 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    edited December 2015 #288

    my Facebook date of birth is not my real date ,I fibbed when I filled it inSurprised

  • young thomas
    young thomas Forum Participant Posts: 11,356
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    edited December 2015 #289

    are CT members that use their 'real names' (rather than a pseudonym) more 'at risk' than those that dont?

    if so, why?

    this has been mentioned as a reason for not using the C&CC forum, yet a great many use 'real names' on CT.

    Some expressing concern are using 'real names' on CT, so whats the specific difference?

    if its an issue, should they stop using CT, or change their login 'name'?

     

    If you use your real name do not show your location. Without your location finding you is very difficult but you should also keep your date of birth secret. If you are looking at burglars then you should have no problem. They would have to spend hours trying
    to find enough information on someone in their area and it almost certsinly would not justify the effort.

    Leave enough information on you on the web though and identity theft is always a potential problem. 

    my point was that there are many CT members using real names and some, no doubt, who put their DOB In their profile...

    why is no one screaming that these members should change this as they at exactly the same risk being voiced about the CCC forum?

    surely, the risks are the same on both forums?

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited December 2015 #290

    To a certain extent I agree BB, but it is a choice on this forum, doesn't sound like a choice on the other one, so not quite the same. Up to the individual to protect themselves, but from what I have read from other posts on here, it seems that you can't
    use an avatar name, so the C and CC seem to  be adding to the problem? I could be wrong, not a member, so haven't taken a look. 

  • Rocky 2 buckets
    Rocky 2 buckets Forum Participant Posts: 7,101
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    edited December 2015 #291

    I don't think folk are attacking the CC&C itself just the system they have opted to go with. It helps no one playing the 'them & us' card. It's merely opinions, if the opinions help to protect members then it's all to the good.

  • young thomas
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    edited December 2015 #292

    I don't think folk are attacking the CC&C itself just the system they have opted to go with. It helps no one playing the 'them & us' card. It's merely opinions, if the opinions help to protect members then it's all to the good.

    i dont think anyone is doing thst, merely trying to understand the swift raising of awareness following the opening of the other forum, citing circumstances that are identical on other forums including CT.

    if anything, drawing attention to these somilarities (rather than the differences) might make more CT ers aware of these pitfalls.Happy

  • briantimber
    briantimber Forum Participant Posts: 1,653
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    edited December 2015 #293

    BB, not looking to argue, merely to say that on other forums you have the option not to be shown when online, on CT you have the option of viewing only, on C&CC you have niether at the moment. It would be nice to have a choice..... Cool

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited December 2015 #294

    That's the difference BT-choice, given the choice I doubt many would choose to display so much info. Let's hope no one suffers in the long term.

  • brue
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    edited December 2015 #295

    I'm sure they'll sort it out, they're obviously going to drop the real name bit. Maybe it shouldn't have gone live until they'd thought it through a bit more, it isn't on open view to all like CT.  I think people like reading forums even if they aren't members
    or signed up for anything. I certainly browse other forums.

  • briantimber
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    edited December 2015 #296

    Yes brue, I browse other forums as well, as  many others do, I  would think .......Cool

  • huskydog
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    edited December 2015 #297

    Well after putting my real name on the C&CC website  , i woke up this morning to find i hadn't been burgled ,my cars were still on the drive and my bank account hasen't been plundered, so i think i might sleep safe tonightCool

  • peedee
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    edited December 2015 #298

    It will be interesting to see how it develops HD. If it puts the majority off there isn't much point in having a forum. While their slogan is "The friendly Club" are they also a responsive and listening Club?

    peedee

  • rogher
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    edited December 2015 #299

    Comparing the two, there seems to be more activity on this discussion alone than there is on the whole C&CC forum at the moment.

  • peedee
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    edited December 2015 #300

    Comparing the two, there seems to be more activity on this discussion alone than there is on the whole C&CC forum at the moment.

    That is because it is new and the access to it is currently hidden. It did briefly appear on the members page but last time I looked I couldn't find it without doing a search function.

    peedee

  • Kennine
    Kennine Forum Participant Posts: 3,472
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    edited December 2015 #301

    The C&CC should have taken the trouble to see what is good and what is not so good with the CC forum before planning and implementing their version. 

    They have had the advantage of seeing where the CC went wrong. That should have triggered a desire to have a forum which surpassed the CC one regarding customer satisfaction. 

    Sadly that has not happened and their forum appears to be a very poor example of people not knowing what they are doing.  Don't see their forum being popular with C&CC members unless they go back to the drawing board and do as the words of a famous song
    implies ---- Quote :- "And sent them homewards to think again"  end quote 

    CoolSmile