How does this Club compare with the ‘Other’?
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The thing I like about the other club is the fact they accept tents. I hate to see row upon row of caravans on hardstandings which many of the CC sites are becoming. Much prefer (in summer at least) grass pitches of caravans, tents & MH all interspersed
thus you get a broader spread of age ranges as tent campers tend to be younger. Some CC sites can be like a residential home for old people!Write your comments here...Some sites can also be an invitation to hooligans..................in tents!
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I think DSB is right,the cc is looking at ways to try to cut costs,one thing is they are cutting down on the hours wardens are paid to cover sites,and relief wardens travel times to and from sites,to try to absorb some of the add costs of the NLW from next
year,And i would not be suprised if not next season, that some less popular sites have their season shortened,0 -
The thing I like about the other club is the fact they accept tents. I hate to see row upon row of caravans on hardstandings which many of the CC sites are becoming. Much prefer (in summer at least) grass pitches of caravans, tents & MH all interspersed
thus you get a broader spread of age ranges as tent campers tend to be younger. Some CC sites can be like a residential home for old people!...The cc are taking tents on more sites now than in the past
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I think DSB is right,the cc is looking at ways to try to cut costs,one thing is they are cutting down on the hours wardens are paid to cover sites,and relief wardens travel times to and from sites,to try to absorb some of the add costs of the NLW from next year,And i would not be suprised if not next season, that some less popular sites have their season shortened,
They may be trying to cut costs which certainly look higher than the C&CC who seem to have increased their profitability over the past 3 years and overall look to be back in the black. One of their contributary factors seems to have been their flexible pricing policy. While it did cause a bit of an outcry on its introduction it appears to have had a positive effect on the bottom line. Perhaps the Club should be doing something similar, charging more for the popular sites at popular times and less for those not so popular. It could kill two birds with one stone, reducing the clamour for popular pitches and encouraging use of the less popular ones with hopefully an upsurge of use and increased profit??????
peedee
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I think DSB is right,the cc is looking at ways to try to cut costs,one thing is they are cutting down on the hours wardens are paid to cover sites,and relief wardens travel times to and from sites,to try to absorb some of the add costs of the NLW from next year,And i would not be suprised if not next season, that some less popular sites have their season shortened,
They may be trying to cut costs which certainly look higher than the C&CC who seem to have increased their profitability over the past 3 years and overall look to be back in the black. One of their contributary factors seems to have been their flexibly pricing policy. While it did cause a bit of an outcry on its introduction it appears to have had a positive effect on the bottom line. Perhaps the Club should be doing something similar, charging more for the popular sites at popular times and less for those not so popular. It could kill two birds with one stone, reducing the clamour for popular pitches and encouraging use of the less popular ones with hopefully an upsurge of use and increased profit??????
peedee
...People are already complaining it is getting too expensive in the "peak" season at Hilhead next year 1nt for two in peak £38
we are trying to convince the sprogs that they need a "change"
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...People are already complaining it is getting too expensive in the "peak" season at Hilhead next year 1nt for two in peak £38
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are trying to convince the sprogs that they need a "change"There we are then, if less popular sites became cheaper you could have some change to bribe them to go along with the idea.
peedee
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...People are already complaining it is getting too expensive in the "peak" season at Hilhead next year 1nt for two in peak £38
we are trying to convince the sprogs that they need a "change"There we are then, if less popular sites became cheaper you could have some change to bribe them to go along with the idea.
peedee
...I think i am on a loser, one is finishing her exams so we might get a week before "peak"
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The thing I like about the other club is the fact they accept tents. I hate to see row upon row of caravans on hardstandings which many of the CC sites are becoming. Much prefer (in summer at least) grass pitches of caravans, tents & MH all interspersed
thus you get a broader spread of age ranges as tent campers tend to be younger. Some CC sites can be like a residential home for old people!Write your comments here...Some sites can also be an invitation to hooligans..................in tents!
Write your comments here...you have not stayed with the c&cc then
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We are members of both Club's but generally prefer the CC. I do think we are in for a period of change in both clubs.
David
What do you know David that the rest of us don't, inside knowledge methinks !!
Admiral
I know nothing specific Admiral, but I know that the Club is aware of things like the increasing cost of caravans and the weight of them in relation to the desire of the motor industry to produce lighter cars etc. Many young families have enough problems
in getting deposits together for a house (with the potential increase of student loan debt) let alone buy a caravan. Perhaps all this means we might be looking in to the future at a Club that accepts tents more readily (cheaper and lighter) or perhaps more
static style accommodation (no need to tow).All this is fictional guess work on my behalf. But if it does come to pass, remember who suggested it!!!!!
David
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Members of both.
In my opinion the CC has a higher standard of site ... with the C&CC you get stupidly narrow hard standings and unmade roads. Have also found varying standards of cleanliness in C&CC loo blocks. I also find them dearer and the booking system is clunky
for want of a better word!However I will continue to maintain membership of both clubs.
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More sites are already taking tents, one classic is a non facility site was going to take tents,and the local manager could not understand when the warden queried it
And seasonal pitches cover your other idea
Yes you are right JVB66, but I am thinking we might see an escalation. I think the Club are already experimenting with 'pods' on a couple of sites.
David
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Husky, don't you mean,...." The other club doesn't have a website that goes down every five minutes"?
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Following on from what David (DSB) said I think both Clubs must be concerned about static membership, and perhaps in the future falling membership, caused no doubt by some of the things that David mentioned. They therefore have to maximise a probably declining membership. The CC is allowing more tents. They are creating more hardstandings, which despite what some people may say are in demand especially to encourage more people to use their sites out of the main season. They are also providing more serviced pitches which seem to be very much in demand. Perhaps the next move would be to remove the restrictions on seasonal pitches in length of occupation without the need to move the caravan off site every so often and introduce seasonal fully serviced hardstanding pitches. That may seem totally against current thinking but the Club have a lot of sites that are underused at certain times of year.
David
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That may seem totally against current thinking but the Club have a lot of sites that are underused at certain times of year.
David
Flexible pricing could be the answer to that. The latest pricing structure seems to have abandoned the three bands we had before. Its not a great step further to flexible pricing. I cannot see putting holiday lets in what ever form is going to make them any popular
peedee
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>>>>Perhaps the next move would be to remove the restrictions on seasonal pitches in length of occupation without the need to move the caravan off site every so often and introduce seasonal fully serviced hardstanding pitches<<<<
David, as long as they don't create less available pitches by doing this then that is fine by me. It would be better if they built new pitches rather than restrict the availability of prime pitches by introducing these extra seasonal pitches, I'm not advocating putting these in the worst part of the site enblock, but I think that a lot of acrimony could and would be shown if members were to have their choice of pitch restricted.......
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Following on from what David (DSB) said I think both Clubs must be concerned about static membership, and perhaps in the future falling membership, caused no doubt by some of the things that David mentioned. They therefore have to maximise a probably declining membership. The CC is allowing more tents.
David
The C&CC membership is not static, they increased membership by 50,000 last year. Perhaps this was because the younger generation are taking to the cheaper alternative of camping and all their sites allow tents. Tent camping does seem to be on the increase so much so the C&CC have added "Ready Camp" to their offerings this year.
peedee
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As others say there is not a lot between the clubs. The services other than sites are very similar except rallies. The CC want you to book most but the C& CC usually just say turn up.
The Cc has far more sites and they tend to be neater and more formal. The C & cc take deposits which you lose if you cancel within one month but are easier for you to get in at short notice and there is an age discount except for peak times which may help.
If looking for a site we look at what sites each club has in the area we want to visit and see what suits us best.
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The nurse i see at the docs is a camper ,but she says her family would love to have a caravan,but as she says the start up is to much compared to tenting,and then there is storage for a c/van,more to insure,larger car needed,and their tent has far more room but folds up into a couple of bags,and the whole lot with alll mod cons goes into a med people carrier and little trailer,she also says lots of the people they meet feel the same
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Following on from what David (DSB) said I think both Clubs must be concerned about static membership, and perhaps in the future falling membership, caused no doubt by some of the things that David mentioned. They therefore have to maximise a probably declining
membership. The CC is allowing more tents.David
The C&CC membership is not static, they increased membership by 50,000 last year. Perhaps this was because the younger generation are taking to the cheaper alternative of camping and all their sites allow tents. Tent camping does seem to be on the increase
so much so the C&CC have added "Ready Camp" to their offerings this year.peedee
...They have some of them at Sandringham look more "glamping"
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>>>>Perhaps the next move would be to remove the restrictions on seasonal pitches in length of occupation without the need to move the caravan off site every so often and introduce seasonal fully serviced hardstanding pitches<<<<
David, as long as they don't create less available pitches by doing this then that is fine by me. It would be better if they built new pitches rather than restrict the availability of prime pitches by introducing these extra seasonal pitches, I'm not advocating
putting these in the worst part of the site enblock, but I think that a lot of acrimony could and would be shown if members were to have their choice of pitch restricted..........If there is too much demand and not enough supply for touring pitches then it seems senseless to increase the number of seasonal pitches which by definition means reducing choice for tourers.
We spend most of the year in Europe and I hate sites that have loads of seasonal pitches. They are like ghost towns when they are not in use. I would be very disappointed if the Club (which is supposed to be a club for tourers) goes down this road.0 -
I think it would be a disaster if the CC took more Tents personally. We have been Members of the Club for 35 years and are very happy with it as it is now.
DianneT
Yes quite agree, we don't want any of the riff raff do we!
A remark totally uncalled for. When we were younger that's how we started off. Bought a tent, then moved to a trailer tent and finally a caravan as finances allowed. Don't tar all tent campers with the same brush. I'd sooner have a field of tent campers
thatn some of the people we've met on CC sites!0
