How does this Club compare with the ‘Other’?
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BB Do yo have to pay a deposit for every site you visit in Europe? I suspect not then why should we have it here? for me it is one of the differnces between the clubs and puts me off booking with the other one.
However I will say that some weekends we ahve gone away last minute and just looked at what was available have been the best ones, no expectations and these we have booked through the other club mostly.
I do however object to their policy of allocating a pitch and have never been offered an alternative so thats another plus for the CC in our books, Oh and beleive it or not I find the CC booking system much easier to use and understand, the pricing policy
on the other site is useless and is a pop up box instead of a price on the page of the site, so confusing but at least there you can book a hard standing pitch.generally, i dont Michael, but then again we rarely have to book....and this is the main difference.
in France, you turn up and you will find a pitch and then pay when you leave.....so you might ask...why doesnt the CC ask for payment when you leave if ypure looking for similarity...
with the mad rush to book key dates and sites, 'speculative bookers' can be as speculative as they like.....see the example a few posts up, where members have freely admitted to booking several dates across the year and then choose the one with the best
weather and then dump the rest just within the 27 hr period.nothing to do with France.....i just dont think this is right.
CCC do not choose a pitch for you, this is a total myth. we always choose our own pitch....yes, someone will help you locate those pitches which fulfill your criteria....quiet, nr showers, away from showers, sunny, shady etc....and they will also escort
you to the pitch.....but not if you're happy to find it yourself.....and if you dont like the pitch you can change it just like with any other sensible site.i agree the booking computer system is better on CC, but i do like the fact that with CCC you can easily select ehu/not, grass/hs, service/not......we have yet to see the CC booking system in action for HS and to witness the fallout of those members who
miss out at booking time and cant do without an awning....0 -
in France, you turn up and you will find a pitch and then pay when you leave.....so you might ask...why doesnt the CC ask for payment when you leave if ypure looking for similarity...
Slightly off topic but we went away a couple of weeks ago and had to return a day earlier than expected ( and paid for) to avoid the 45+ mph winds forecast for the following day - we were unable to stay on due to the site being fully booked BUT a credit was not allowed to be given - how can this be right when we found ourselves in a Catch 22 situation, if it is OK to cancel beforehand without financial penalty why does it not work both ways?
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"...see the example a few posts up, where members have freely admitted to booking several dates across the year and then choose the one with the best weather and then dump the rest just within the 27 hr period."
BB - every year since the forum opened at this time of year a few folk come on and claim that they've met a few others on site who claim they book their favourite site every weekend and then cancel etc etc. Yet the club says that on frenzy day only a small number of members make even double figure bookings. You don't strike me as the naive sort - do you not think there may be a bit of winding up involved here?
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Its working fine for me and they have a PM facility. Will be spending time there in future
. The rules are fine and guidance seem sensible - not a lot of waffle. It remains to be seen how well it is moderated. yes, managing to gently find my way around, different though.
i see michaelT is there and DD....
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with the mad rush to book key dates and sites, 'speculative bookers' can be as speculative as they like.....see the example a few posts up, where members have freely admitted to booking several dates across the year and then choose the one with the best
weather and then dump the rest just within the 27 hr period.Where was that please?
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"...see the example a few posts up, where members have freely admitted to booking several dates across the year and then choose the one with the best weather and then dump the rest just within the 27 hr period."
BB - every year since the forum opened at this time of year a few folk come on and
claim that they've met a few others on site who claim they book their favourite site every weekend and then cancel etc etc. Yet the club says that on frenzy day only a small number of members make even double figure bookings.
You don't strike me as the naive sort - do you not think there may be a bit of winding up involved here?similarly, we get reports every year of gas attacks, muggings and all sorts happening to anyone venturing out of the uk in a MH ....surely these are wind ups too?
if i could have been bothered to join in the frenzy (no thanks) i might have had a crack at a few multi-savers at Chatsworth or BW....after all, no point in getting a booking and then having to endure crap weather.....
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with the mad rush to book key dates and sites, 'speculative bookers' can be as speculative as they like.....see the example
a few posts up, where members have freely admitted to booking several dates across the year and then choose the one with the best weather and then dump the rest just within the 27 hr period.Where was that please?
here you go, Steve....
" I have had several conversations with members who admit to booking up weekends and holidays at there favorite haunts knowing that they will cancel a good proportion of them. One couple said they wouldn't be able to afford every booking they made
but as they could choose the best weekend for them nearer the time at no cost or penalty they used it to there advantage."...i found it a few posts up
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"...see the example a few posts up, where members have freely admitted to booking several dates across the year and then choose the one with the best weather and then dump the rest just within the 27 hr period."
BB - every year since the forum opened at this time of year a few folk come on and claim that they've met a few others on site who claim they book their favourite site every weekend and then cancel etc etc. Yet the club says that on frenzy day only a small number of members make even double figure bookings. You don't strike me as the naive sort - do you not think there may be a bit of winding up involved here?similarly, we get reports every year of gas attacks, muggings and all sorts happening to anyone venturing out of the uk in a MH ....surely these are wind ups too?
if i could have been bothered to join in the frenzy (no thanks) i might have had a crack at a few multi-savers at Chatsworth or BW....after all, no point in getting a booking and then having to endure crap weather.....
Yes, but the point is that these claims are made and there's never any evidence of it being true. I don't do frenzy day either but I also don't come on complaining about not being able to get exactly the site I want when I want as a few (not you!) do. If you or I did go for a lot of block bookings would either of us then go around bragging about it to other members? I don't think so, do you?
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M, not on a forum where we are accountable, but you might tell your mate how easy it was to 'goof' the system....
speaking of 'evidence'....Peedee has repeatedly asked for stats where the amount of cancellations by date (in relation to the booking) be presented by CC......never a squeak.
CC can tell us whatever it likes about 'late cancellations', 'block bookings' and 'the effects of deposits (or not)'.
id certainly take most of those with a pinch of salt.....
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Yes, Ian H kept asking for those statistics as well and they'd certainly be interesting.
But I for one would tend to put more stock by what little the CC have told us than a few hearsay claims from a small number of individuals with an axe to grind.
Incidentally, if some folk do indeed book loads of weekends at the same site (can't imagine whi they would!) as long as they've done it after frenzy day and intend to use them they've done nothing wrong surely?
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here you go, Steve....
" I have had several conversations with members who admit to booking up weekends and holidays at there favorite haunts knowing that they will cancel a good proportion of them. One couple said they wouldn't be able to afford every booking they made
but as they could choose the best weekend for them nearer the time at no cost or penalty they used it to there advantage."...i found it a few posts up
Thanks BB
However this evidence is hearsay and as such may not necessarily be considered admissible. Not in a court of law anyway. CC is of course not a court of law. However, I would be wary of accepting something I was told, by someone I did not know. How can you
have any gauge of accuracy in a chance conversation. I am assuming the person being quoted did not know them, as the wording is members not friends.0 -
"...see the example a few posts up, where members have freely admitted to booking several dates across the year and then choose the one with the best weather and then dump the rest just within the 27 hr period."
BB - every year since the forum opened at this time of year a few folk come on and
claim that they've met a few others on site who claim they book their favourite site every weekend and then cancel etc etc. Yet the club says that on frenzy day only a small number of members make even double figure bookings.
You don't strike me as the naive sort - do you not think there may be a bit of winding up involved here?Write your comments here...My thoughts exactly, I ma even have been one of those braggers
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I'm quite laid back about the subject - I generally like to holiday in stunning rural areas and not urban areas so generally don't have a problem finding a site with available pitches at short notice.
What I will comment on is a paragraph by BB in an earlier post
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speaking of 'evidence'....Peedee has repeatedly asked for stats where the amount of cancellations by date (in relation to the booking) be presented by CC......never a squeak.
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This highlights the attitude of Grimstead to requests by members for information.0 -
Having tried several searches I have come up with this link. I suspect the forum is not up and running yet.
David
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Having tried several searches I have come up with this link. I suspect the forum is not up and running yet.
David
Why do you say that David, several of us have been using it for a few hours.
are you a member
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Having tried several searches I have come up with this link. I suspect the forum is not up and running yet.
David
It's here David:
https://forum.campingandcaravanningclub.co.uk/
(Obviously, you also need to be logged in)
Cheers
Bugs
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here you go, Steve....
" I have had several conversations with members who admit to booking up weekends and holidays at there favorite haunts knowing that they will cancel a good proportion of them. One couple said they wouldn't be able to afford every booking they made
but as they could choose the best weekend for them nearer the time at no cost or penalty they used it to there advantage."...i found it a few posts up
Thanks BB
However this evidence is hearsay and as such may not necessarily be considered admissible. Not in a court of law anyway. CC is of course not a court of law. However, I would be wary of accepting something I was told, by someone I did not know. How can you
have any gauge of accuracy in a chance conversation. I am assuming the person being quoted did not know them, as the wording is members not friends.....obviously, i dont believe a word you say....
its very interesting that when someone says something positive about a CC site or a service, its taken as gospel.
should someone have the temerity to report a bad experience or something 'untoward' we have cries of 'heresy' and 'burn him at the stake'....
i suggest you ask the poster if the comment (he may even volunteer the info) was made by 'friends' or 'members' and if they had been subjected to a polygraph test......
so, 'friends' might be truthful but 'members' of unknown origin, tell lies?
...and you said i was 'pedantic' earlier.....strewth
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BB - I think you're getting a little over wraught and letting your anti CC prejudice show, judging by your second two paragraphs there. I don't take anything on here as "gospel", good or bad. I prefer to base things on my experience. I've spoken to probably hundreds of fellow members on CC sites but I've never had a casual conversation with a fellow member bragging about booking every possible weekend at the same site! Have you?
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BB - I think you're getting a little over wraught and letting your anti CC prejudice show, judging by your second two paragraphs there. I don't take anything on here as "gospel", good or bad. I prefer to base things on my experience. I've spoken to probably
hundreds of fellow members on CC sites but I've never had a casual conversation with a fellow member bragging about booking every possible weekend at the same site! Have you?M, thanks for the lecture.
however, youll note, i was referring to Steve's post (which i quoted) not yours, who was the doubting Thomas, not you
but thanks
for replying anyway.no one getting overwrought, other than you by the look of it, especially over something not written by you nor aimed at you.......and no one being anti CC.
why not have a go at Steves post where he suggested the 'folk' passing on the info couldnt be telling the truth as they were only 'members' not 'friends'...
so what does that say about his view of members....?
one could easily say that was anti CC, wouldn't you say?
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BB -I think you are reading to much into it. The post you quoted was clearly hearsay. The subjects in question referred to as members. I don't know about you but I think I would have a better idea if friends were telling porkies than strangers. As to burning
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BB -I think you are reading to much into it. The post you quoted was clearly hearsay. The subjects in question referred to as members. I don't know about you but I think I would have a better idea if friends were telling porkies than strangers. As to burning
at the stake I'm pretty sure that was made illegal a few hundred years ago.Why dont you ask 'fur ball' if he thought these people were liars?
i read his post in good faith, after all why should he (as well as these 'people') tell lies?
hence my comment to you (not Moulesy
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BB - I think you're getting a little over wraught and letting your anti CC prejudice show, judging by your second two paragraphs there. I don't take anything on here as "gospel", good or bad. I prefer to base things on my experience. I've spoken to probably hundreds of fellow members on CC sites but I've never had a casual conversation with a fellow member bragging about booking every possible weekend at the same site! Have you?
M, thanks for the lecture.
however, youll note, i was referring to Steve's post (which i quoted) not yours, who was the doubting Thomas, not you
but thanks for replying anyway.no one getting overwrought, other than you by the look of it, especially over something not written by you nor aimed at you.......and no one being anti CC.
why not have a go at Steves post where he suggested the 'folk' passing on the info couldnt be telling the truth as they were only 'members' not 'friends'...
so what does that say about his view of members....?
one could easily say that was anti CC, wouldn't you say?
Not sure I understand your post there BB. I'm not one to lecture anyone and I wasn't referring specifically to your reply to Steve - the forum isn't really constructed for 2 way conversaion is it? It would need a PM system to accomplish that.
My point, once again, was that it's easy for folk to say they've spoken to someone who claims to have made a load of bookings for the same site every weekend of the year, but that's just hearsay isn't it? (I'm not even sure we know if it was on a members only site so the members/non members distinction may be irrelevant anyway)
As you so correctly point out the CC is not very forthcomng with statistics but the little that they do reveal suggests that this block booking on frenzy day is a figment of certain poster's imaginations.
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Having tried several searches I have come up with this link. I suspect the forum is not up and running yet.
David
Logged in and done a couple of posts, will be interesting how it develops
Well it just looks the same as CT at the moment as all I'm getting is an ERROR message.
Perhaps they're using the same IT guys as CC!! OR perhaps it's been infected by some of the CT posters?0
