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  • Wex
    Wex Forum Participant Posts: 139
    edited December 2016 #362

    Don't you just love this forum? I have to admit, I haven't been a consistent contributor and I'm still in two minds about it. It's easy to see how some people amass lots of coloured stars judging by their frequency of comment on this thread alone. It's interesting
    to see that some people have entrenched views that are unlikely to change and mainly fit in the "I'm alright Jack" category but that others are more philosophical and open to new ideas.

    Despite all it's twists and turns, it's blind alleys and strange changes of direction, I detect that the main issue is really one that's caused by the random queuing system which is perceived as unfair.

    In a bank, or similar, they employ 'snake' systems for queues where everyone is in the same queue and, once served, would re-enter the queue at the back If they returned (unlikely, I know). What if, for example, having waited
    in this kind of queue, the cashier called out people randomly? There would be consternation at the very least! Some people would be served multiple times but some would never be served.

    And yet, this is exactly what the CC system does. Surely, it would be possible to develop a fair online booking system, assuming they want to continue with this kind of launch event?

    it will be interesting to see the CC's response.

  • MichaelT
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    edited December 2016 #363

    Don't you just love this forum? I have to admit, I haven't been a consistent contributor and I'm still in two minds about it. It's easy to see how some people amass lots of coloured stars judging by their frequency of comment on this thread alone. It's interesting
    to see that some people have entrenched views that are unlikely to change and mainly fit in the "I'm alright Jack" category but that others are more philosophical and open to new ideas.

    Despite all it's twists and turns, it's blind alleys and strange changes of direction, I detect that the main issue is really one that's caused by the random queuing system which is perceived as unfair.

    In a bank, or similar, they employ 'snake' systems for queues where everyone is in the same queue and, once served, would re-enter the queue at the back If they returned (unlikely, I know). What if, for example, having waited
    in this kind of queue, the cashier called out people randomly? There would be consternation at the very least! Some people would be served multiple times but some would never be served.

    And yet, this is exactly what the CC system does. Surely, it would be possible to develop a fair online booking system, assuming they want to continue with this kind of launch event?

    it will be interesting to see the CC's response.

    Write your comments here...but dont the CC ahve a queueing system, you get in make a booking then get kicked to the back of the queue, whats the problem??

  • FiatBessacarr
    FiatBessacarr Forum Participant Posts: 21
    edited December 2016 #364

    Dont know why people get so uptight about the booking format. It is what it is.  I have just been on this morning and booked 5 sites that i wanted For next year in the space of abour 5 minutes. They all include weekends and are all popular sites, including
    ones for Xmas and new year.

    If the ones i would prefer had gone then i would simply look elswhere, the CC is not the Be all and End all of Sites providers.

    However I still have to  agree its a silly system that allows individual members to block book weekends, But at least everyone gets the same opportunity to queue for bookings.lol

    Conclusion;- No system will please allWink. Use left and right arrows to navigate. but
    it isn't the end of the world as some people seem to think it isSealed. Use left and right arrows to navigate.

    Write your comments here... depends where you need to go and who you may be visiting. Personally I visit family when booking Christmas and New Year so my options are limited, either I can book a site which is less than 5 miles from where they live or the
    alternative is over 25 miles away. In my case both sites were fully booked for the festive 2017 period already by 9am on 7th December so cannot now go to either of them. The next nearest CC site is almost 75 miles from where they live.so why would I want to
    do that when I live approx 85 miles from them in the first place! The point people are making is that the system only works for the minority and not the majority and there should be a fairier system. Only those who managed to get in and book what they wanted
    will be happy while the rest miss out. Yes I can book private/commercial sites and look for other alternatives but then whats the point of belonging to a club which can't cater for your needs and it's not money saving anymore! 

  • Wex
    Wex Forum Participant Posts: 139
    edited December 2016 #365

    Don't you just love this forum? I have to admit, I haven't been a consistent contributor and I'm still in two minds about it. It's easy to see how some people amass lots of coloured stars judging by their frequency of comment on this thread alone. It's interesting
    to see that some people have entrenched views that are unlikely to change and mainly fit in the "I'm alright Jack" category but that others are more philosophical and open to new ideas.

    Despite all it's twists and turns, it's blind alleys and strange changes of direction, I detect that the main issue is really one that's caused by the random queuing system which is perceived as unfair.

    In a bank, or similar, they employ 'snake' systems for queues where everyone is in the same queue and, once served, would re-enter the queue at the back If they returned (unlikely, I know). What if, for example, having waited
    in this kind of queue, the cashier called out people randomly? There would be consternation at the very least! Some people would be served multiple times but some would never be served.

    And yet, this is exactly what the CC system does. Surely, it would be possible to develop a fair online booking system, assuming they want to continue with this kind of launch event?

    it will be interesting to see the CC's response.

    Write your comments here...but dont the CC ahve a queueing system, you get in make a booking then get kicked to the back of the queue, whats the problem?

    Write your comments here...but dont the CC ahve a queueing system, you get in make a booking then get kicked to the back of the queue, whats the problem??

    Except that's not actually how it works which may have led to your misunderstanding. The CC queuing system doesn't send people to the back of the queue - it randomly selects them which causes the issue of some people not getting on and others being able
    to make multiple bookings.

  • mbee1
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    edited December 2016 #366

    I beleive it needs a complete overhaul. I'm not in favour of deposits although it wouldn't bother me if they were introduced.  A queue is a queue, however, and the CC don't operate a queue - it's just random.  Both me and my wife logged in before 8am yesterday as we wanted one particular site for a number of dates.  It took over an hour to make six bookings but I never once was able to book.  We both kept clicking and it let her in everytime but not me!

    I'm not saying there's a right or wrong way but I believe you should not be able to log in until 8am then it should be a queue strictly adhered to.  When you've made one booking you should be logged out to enable you to log back in and join the queue.again in turn.

    Alternatively or additionally, restrict members to a particular number of nights that you can book on booking day to give other members a chance . I also beleive that it is unfair to people who work so a Saturday or Sunday would be preferable.  Luckily I had a day off yesterday not that it mattered as my wife was "chosen" and she did all the bookings.

  • Whittakerr
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    edited December 2016 #367

    I’ll be glad when the kerfuffle about booking day has died down and we can get back to the serious forum business of alphabetical lists.Happy

  • huskydog
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    edited December 2016 #368

    i didn't see any frenzy yesterday ,i logged on at about 11.30, booked 3 sites and drank my tea
    Cool

  • Randomcamper
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    edited December 2016 #369

    I’ll be glad when the kerfuffle about booking day has died down and we can get back to the serious forum business of alphabetical lists.Happy

     

    Enjoy it, it is a seasonal diversion !

    Once the spring arrives we will be back to time of arrival, time of departure, sunday departures, speed on sites, d*gs & kids.....Wink

  • Wex
    Wex Forum Participant Posts: 139
    edited December 2016 #370

    Don't you just love this forum? I have to admit, I haven't been a consistent contributor and I'm still in two minds about it. It's easy to see how some people amass lots of coloured stars judging by their frequency of comment on this thread alone. It's interesting
    to see that some people have entrenched views that are unlikely to change and mainly fit in the "I'm alright Jack" category but that others are more philosophical and open to new ideas.

    Despite all it's twists and turns, it's blind alleys and strange changes of direction, I detect that the main issue is really one that's caused by the random queuing system which is perceived as unfair.

    In a bank, or similar, they employ 'snake' systems for queues where everyone is in the same queue and, once served, would re-enter the queue at the back If they returned (unlikely, I know). What if, for example, having waited
    in this kind of queue, the cashier called out people randomly? There would be consternation at the very least! Some people would be served multiple times but some would never be served.

    And yet, this is exactly what the CC system does. Surely, it would be possible to develop a fair online booking system, assuming they want to continue with this kind of launch event?

    it will be interesting to see the CC's response.

    Write your comments here...but dont the CC ahve a queueing system, you get in make a booking then get kicked to the back of the queue, whats the problem??

    Except that's not actually how it works which may have led to your misunderstanding. The CC queuing system doesn't send people to the back of the queue - it randomly selects them which causes the issue of some people not getting on and others being
    able to make multiple bookings.

  • MichaelT
    MichaelT Forum Participant Posts: 1,874
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    edited December 2016 #371

    Don't you just love this forum? I have to admit, I haven't been a consistent contributor and I'm still in two minds about it. It's easy to see how some people amass lots of coloured stars judging by their frequency of comment on this thread alone. It's interesting
    to see that some people have entrenched views that are unlikely to change and mainly fit in the "I'm alright Jack" category but that others are more philosophical and open to new ideas.

    Despite all it's twists and turns, it's blind alleys and strange changes of direction, I detect that the main issue is really one that's caused by the random queuing system which is perceived as unfair.

    In a bank, or similar, they employ 'snake' systems for queues where everyone is in the same queue and, once served, would re-enter the queue at the back If they returned (unlikely, I know). What if, for example, having waited
    in this kind of queue, the cashier called out people randomly? There would be consternation at the very least! Some people would be served multiple times but some would never be served.

    And yet, this is exactly what the CC system does. Surely, it would be possible to develop a fair online booking system, assuming they want to continue with this kind of launch event?

    it will be interesting to see the CC's response.

    Write your comments here...but dont the CC ahve a queueing system, you get in make a booking then get kicked to the back of the queue, whats the problem??

    Except that's not actually how it works which may have led to your misunderstanding. The CC queuing system doesn't send people to the back of the queue - it randomly selects them which causes the issue of some people not getting on and others being
    able to make multiple bookings.

    Write your comments here...where does it say that I think I must ahve missed it, I was under the impression it was a queueing system not a lotto?

  • EasyT
    EasyT Forum Participant Posts: 16,194
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    edited December 2016 #372

    And I though that it was a lottery with regards to a handfull of sites - not that it troubles me

  • Wex
    Wex Forum Participant Posts: 139
    edited December 2016 #373

    Don't you just love this forum? I have to admit, I haven't been a consistent contributor and I'm still in two minds about it. It's easy to see how some people amass lots of coloured stars judging by their frequency of comment on this thread alone. It's interesting
    to see that some people have entrenched views that are unlikely to change and mainly fit in the "I'm alright Jack" category but that others are more philosophical and open to new ideas.

    Despite all it's twists and turns, it's blind alleys and strange changes of direction, I detect that the main issue is really one that's caused by the random queuing system which is perceived as unfair.

    In a bank, or similar, they employ 'snake' systems for queues where everyone is in the same queue and, once served, would re-enter the queue at the back If they returned (unlikely, I know). What if, for example, having waited
    in this kind of queue, the cashier called out people randomly? There would be consternation at the very least! Some people would be served multiple times but some would never be served.

    And yet, this is exactly what the CC system does. Surely, it would be possible to develop a fair online booking system, assuming they want to continue with this kind of launch event?

    it will be interesting to see the CC's response.

    Write your comments here...but dont the CC ahve a queueing system, you get in make a booking then get kicked to the back of the queue, whats the problem??

    Except that's not actually how it works which may have led to your misunderstanding. The CC queuing system doesn't send people to the back of the queue - it randomly selects them which causes the issue of some people not getting on and others being
    able to make multiple bookings.

    Write your comments here...where does it say that I think I must ahve missed it, I was under the impression it was a queueing system not a lotto?

    Ha. I like that.

    But just think about it. If it really was a queue, why do some people manage to make multiple bookings at one site (like you), yet others can't get on? Ask the CC to confirm and they will.

  • MichaelT
    MichaelT Forum Participant Posts: 1,874
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    edited December 2016 #374

     

    Ha. I like that.

    But just think about it. If it really was a queue, why do some people manage to make multiple bookings at one site (like you), yet others can't get on? Ask the CC to confirm and they will.

    Write your comments here...Some will be down to infrastructure e.g. broad band speed, others had issues with Chrome as they did not have the latest version installed and for those who got lots of bookings on the day perhaps they know how to use the system to their advantage Winking

  • Whittakerr
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    edited December 2016 #375

    Multiple computers Surprised

  • Wex
    Wex Forum Participant Posts: 139
    edited December 2016 #376

     

    Ha. I like that.

    But just think about it. If it really was a queue, why do some people manage to make multiple bookings at one site (like you), yet others can't get on? Ask the CC to confirm and they will.

    Write your comments here...Some will be down to infrastructure e.g. broad band speed, others had issues with Chrome as they did not have the latest version installed and for those who got lots of bookings on the day perhaps they know how to use the system
    to their advantage Winking

    You just don't get it, do you? Yes, there will be some of each of the things you mention. But that doesn't explain all of the issues. I'd rather see a system that is fair to all than one that I can exploit to my personal benefit.

  • EasyT
    EasyT Forum Participant Posts: 16,194
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    edited December 2016 #377

    Seems fair system to me

  • Wex
    Wex Forum Participant Posts: 139
    edited December 2016 #378

    Seems fair system to me

    I can only assume you haven't read, or understood, my post, then.

  • EasyT
    EasyT Forum Participant Posts: 16,194
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    edited December 2016 #379

    Seems fair system to me

    I can only assume you haven't read, or understood, my post, then.

    Ohh but I have and do not consider the system to be intrinsically unfair

  • Wex
    Wex Forum Participant Posts: 139
    edited December 2016 #380

    Seems fair system to me

    I can only assume you haven't read, or understood, my post, then.

    Ohh but I have and do not consider the system to be intrinsically unfair

    I suppose if you're happy with the lotto aspect of the system, then you could be convinced it is fair. Personally, I think that aspect could be improved, but each to his own.

  • compass362
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    edited December 2016 #381

    Don't you just love this forum? I have to admit, I haven't been a consistent contributor and I'm still in two minds about it. It's easy to see how some people amass lots of coloured stars judging by their frequency of comment on this thread alone. It's interesting
    to see that some people have entrenched views that are unlikely to change and mainly fit in the "I'm alright Jack" category but that others are more philosophical and open to new ideas.

    Despite all it's twists and turns, it's blind alleys and strange changes of direction, I detect that the main issue is really one that's caused by the random queuing system which is perceived as unfair.

    In a bank, or similar, they employ 'snake' systems for queues where everyone is in the same queue and, once served, would re-enter the queue at the back If they returned (unlikely, I know). What if, for example, having waited
    in this kind of queue, the cashier called out people randomly? There would be consternation at the very least! Some people would be served multiple times but some would never be served.

    And yet, this is exactly what the CC system does. Surely, it would be possible to develop a fair online booking system, assuming they want to continue with this kind of launch event?

    it will be interesting to see the CC's response.

    Write your comments here...With 300,000 +  CC members  , yes some people will be disappointed on booking day .

    Limited weekend pitch availability at the most popular sites is hardly going to enable everyone to fill their 2017 wish list.

    It's life I'm afraid , no member as any advantage over others , the odds of getting everything you want site/dates/days are purely chance on booking day , until the system is changed.

    My advice is keep checking the sites you didn't get , because people do cancel......good luck

  • EasyT
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    edited December 2016 #382

    I am totally happy with the lotto aspect. Chance is fair as far as I am concerned.

  • compass362
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    edited December 2016 #383

    I am totally happy with the lotto aspect. Chance is fair as far as I am concerned.

    Write your comments here...Agree totally , we have a list of choices , but always have alternative sites if unsuccessful .

    Dates aren't an issue now that I've retired , we can & do use mid week bookings certainly for our 3 local peak district sites , Sunday to Thursday .

    Weekends are only with full weeks , Sunday to Sunday be it 7 nights or 14

  • MichaelT
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    edited December 2016 #384

     

    Ha. I like that.

    But just think about it. If it really was a queue, why do some people manage to make multiple bookings at one site (like you), yet others can't get on? Ask the CC to confirm and they will.

    Write your comments here...Some will be down to infrastructure e.g. broad band speed, others had issues with Chrome as they did not have the latest version installed and for those who got lots of bookings on the day perhaps they know how to use the system to their advantage Winking

    You just don't get it, do you? Yes, there will be some of each of the things you mention. But that doesn't explain all of the issues. I'd rather see a system that is fair to all than one that I can exploit to my personal benefit.

    Write your comments here...but it is fair to all, we all all have the same chance of getting the dates/sites we want, what is unfair?  As for personal benefit you obviously want to change it for your personal benefit dont you?

  • dockpudd
    dockpudd Forum Participant Posts: 7
    edited December 2016 #385

    I new which site I wanted to go to and when. Went onto the club booking site yesterday morning, got on straight away and booked my pitch. I received my confirmation by email, job done. Can not fault the system.

  • EasyT
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    edited December 2016 #386

     

    Dates aren't an issue now that I've retired , we can & do use mid week bookings certainly for our 3 local peak district sites , Sunday to Thursday .

    Weekends are only with full weeks , Sunday to Sunday be it 7 nights or 14

    We would not generally hitch up for a 5 day break. We prefer to travel further afield within UK. For us the minimum is probably just over 30 nights with 6 seperate 5 night breaks
    Winking

    The exception for us being December where we have a couple of weeks at one location

  • EasyT
    EasyT Forum Participant Posts: 16,194
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    edited December 2016 #387

    I new which site I wanted to go to and when. Went onto the club booking site yesterday morning, got on straight away and booked my pitch. I received my confirmation by email, job done. Can not fault the system.

    Thumbs Up

  • eurortraveller
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    edited December 2016 #388

    The mid week frenzy day booking system favours those who are retired with time to hunch over their computers. Those who are are out of the house soon after 7am to go to work are the ones who are at a disadvantage. And yet they are the ones who need the weekend bookings which are hard to get. 

  • EasyT
    EasyT Forum Participant Posts: 16,194
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    edited December 2016 #389

    Which is why I would prefer tha tthe CC pay staff overtime and start it on a Sunday. If I booked later it would not cause me any problems and so if we were out walking with friends as we do some Sundays it could certainly wait

  • MichaelT
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    edited December 2016 #390

    The mid week frenzy day booking system favours those who are retired with time to hunch over their computers. Those who are are out of the house soon after 7am to go to work are the ones who are at a disadvantage. And yet they are the ones who need the weekend
    bookings which are hard to get. 

    Write your comments here...not really, you can phone to make a booking, most people have access to the internet 24*7 at work or with a smart phone or tablet etc.  10 years ago your argument may have been correct but not today.

  • mbee1
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    edited December 2016 #391

    No disrepect to the retired folk on here but when we have a weekend away well over half the units seem to be full of old folk! Yet it's the retired people that say they never go away at weekends.