Excessive site charges
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we are local to ferry meadows a lovely site but not anything but a good cc site. I was thinking of booking in next weekend for two nights (something we do often) I was expecting the total to come to about £55 for the four of us that are charged (2 children and a under 5), but was horrified to see two nights came to £68! And if I had to pay for my little girl it would of been £74!
I do expect the price to rise for high season but that is crazy especially when it only cost us £47 for three nights last half term. I love caravan club and have no problems with any of your sites but for the first time I am questioning your prices especially when I can stay in a travel loge for £45 a Night. so we will not be staying with you next weekend sadly to say.
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Moulsey
You wont want to hear this but for the benefit of anyone who has yet to look at sites elsewhere £18 or €22.83 is not reasonable for a "non luxury" site in April, it is very expensive.
...That does take into account the cost of getting to the euro priced sites of course ? for a short break i mean up to two weeks, not the months that would i think make it a viable option, as most of us living in the UK cannot do
But the UK site price doesn't take account of the cost of travelling from Europe either. I'm struggling to understand the point there?
Surely you must just compare the site cost.....and when doing so you will find that CC sites are very expensive for quite 'ordinary' sites, in many cases.....
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So, it would seem that the 'CC supporters club - for they can never do wrong' point of view is that:
a) You must not compare prices with over-seas sites, because they are........errrrrr.......over-seas..... and they make the CC look expensive.
b) You must not compare with commercial sites, because they adopt the industry-wide policy of increasing prices for a few peak weeks......and......errr........they make the CC look expensive.
Would that seem to sum it up?
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Not at all, Ian, but no one on earth will ever convince some members of the CC knockers club, and the abroad is wonderful society, that it's about personal choice. What is good for one is terrible for another. What seems expensive to some is very reasonable to others. Live and let live, eh?
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So, it would seem that the 'CC supporters club - for they can never do wrong' point of view is that:
a) You must not compare prices with over-seas sites because they are........errrrrr.......over-seas and make the CC look expensive.
b) You must not compare with commercial sites because they adopt the industry-wide policy of increasing prices for a few peak weeks......and......errr........they make the CC look expensive.
Would that seem to sum it up?
...Thats about right ,and the reason cc and ccc sites in the peak periods are a more economical option for the largest majority of members ,who cannot take advantage of the loss leaders that other organisations use and the reason that those from "over there"tend
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Wrong on both points Ian, and incidentally, I think your rather patronising opening sentence does little to strengthen your argument.
(a) the comparison with overseas sites is, in my view, completely irrelevant and only brought up by those who want to take every opportunity to have a go at the club
(b) the comparison with commercial sites ( the likes of Haven, SB and Morris) is pointing out that these sites do indeed offer very good special deals to those who can take advantage of them, but at the expense of sky high prices in school holidays.
It's up to everyone to do their own research and choose what suits them, price wise and facility wise.
To suggest that all things commercial/overseas are superior is as ludicrous as suggesting that everything the CC offers is. There are good and bad in both.
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Agree TW, but we can harp on about personal choice until we are blue in the face, unfortunately, some contributers do not know the meaning of choice, they just want their own opinions to outshine others, sad really..
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Not at all, Ian, but no one on earth will ever convince some members of the CC knockers club, and the abroad is wonderful society, that it's about personal choice. What is good for one is terrible for another. What seems expensive to some is very reasonable
to others. Live and let live, eh?But this thread is supposed to be about excessive CC charging......and the only way to say what is reasonable is by bench-marking against other, similar products.
Simply saying that you would think that the CC is best, whatever they charge, does not demonstrate what is good value.
That is like saying that you will always stick with British Gas (or whoever)........their gas is just the same, but more expensive. Sticking with them doesn't make them better......it just demonstrates a slavish behaviour and a timidity about trying something
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OK, we are off to Crossways in August for 7 nights ,cost £158.00 , just looked at the C&CC site the other side of the railway line for the same 7 nights ,cost £196.70
But then the C&CC site at setthorns for 7 nights in November is £30 cheaper than Black Knowl ( if it was open), so it's swings and roundabouts
it's about booking choice
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We love Crossways ��
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Agree TW, but we can harp on about personal choice until we are blue in the face, unfortunately, some contributers do not know the meaning of choice, they just want their own opinions to outshine others, sad really..
BT, I don't give a damn how other people choose to holiday and would never criticise their choices. It's entirely up to them and, to my mind the hobby is not all about the mighty £. I am quite capable of deciding how much I'm happy to pay and where I want
to go without others telling me the 'best' way to do it and how much is too much to pay. I object to the constant drip, drip, drip of those who try to convert some of us to their ways. I sometimes wonder just who they are trying to convince - themselves, maybe?I'll say again, this thread is about UK site prices.
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Wrong on both points Ian, and incidentally, I think your rather patronising opening sentence does little to strengthen your argument.
(a) the comparison with overseas sites is, in my view, completely irrelevant and only brought up by those who want to take every opportunity to have a go at the club
(b) the comparison with commercial sites ( the likes of Haven, SB and Morris) is pointing out that these sites do indeed offer very good special deals to those who can take advantage of them, but at the expense of sky high prices in school holidays.
It's up to everyone to do their own research and choose what suits them, price wise and facility wise.
To suggest that all things commercial/overseas are superior is as ludicrous as suggesting that everything the CC offers is. There are good and bad in both.
I'm sorry if my opening sentence struck a raw nerve, Moulesy, but there you go.
How on earth is comparing with an overseas site (maybe only 30 miles away) and in the same industry, with a similar offering, irrelevant??
Yes commercial sites do tend to follow the principles of supply and demand.......but just how long do you think the CC can ignore this and see their sites sit virtually empty most of the year? Reality will catch up to them......hopefully before they have
had to sell off too many sites.I didn't suggest that commercial sites are always superior.
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Wrong on both points Ian, and incidentally, I think your rather patronising opening sentence does little to strengthen your argument.
(a) the comparison with overseas sites is, in my view, completely irrelevant and only brought up by those who want to take every opportunity to have a go at the club
(b) the comparison with commercial sites ( the likes of Haven, SB and Morris) is pointing out that these sites do indeed offer very good special deals to those who can take advantage of them, but at the expense of sky high prices in school holidays.
It's up to everyone to do their own research and choose what suits them, price wise and facility wise.
To suggest that all things commercial/overseas are superior is as ludicrous as suggesting that everything the CC offers is. There are good and bad in both.
I'm sorry if my opening sentence struck a raw nerve, Moulesy, but there you go.
How on earth is comparing with an overseas site (maybe only 30 miles away) and in the same industry, with a similar offering, irrelevant??
Yes commercial sites do tend to follow the principles of supply and demand.......but just how long do you think the CC can ignore this and see their sites sit virtually empty most of the year? Reality will catch up to them......hopefully before they have
had to sell off too many sites.I didn't suggest that commercial sites are always superior.
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I think comparison with commercials and the other club is valid but I struggle to see the relevance of comparison with sites in different countries with a totally different economic model.
Even if it is a valid comparison I think it shouldn't be in this section which is for discussion of uk sites.
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I think comparison with commercials and the other club is valid but I struggle to see the relevance of comparison with sites in different countries with a totally different economic model.
""Even if it is a valid comparison I think it shouldn't be in this section which is for discussion of uk sites. ""
Quite agree JayEss, but I fear our objections will be ignored..
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Agree TW, but we can harp on about personal choice until we are blue in the face, unfortunately, some contributers do not know the meaning of choice, they just want their own opinions to outshine others, sad really..
BT, I don't give a damn how other people choose to holiday and would never criticise their choices as it's entirely up to them. To my mind the hobby is not all about the mighty £ and I am quite capable of deciding how much I'm happy to pay and where I want to go without others telling me the 'best' way to do it and how much is too much to pay.
I object to the constant drip, drip, drip of those who insist on trying to convert some of us to their ways. I sometimes wonder just who they are trying to convince - themselves, maybe? It's time the record was changed.0 -
Ian, in case you missed my last post, I'll repeat.
It's all about personal choice and not inflicting one's preferences on others.
I'm genuinely sorry to see you jumping on the bandwagon with those whose kneejerk reaction is simply to condemn everything CC.
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Wrong on both points Ian, and incidentally, I think your rather patronising opening sentence does little to strengthen your argument.
(a) the comparison with overseas sites is, in my view, completely irrelevant and only brought up by those who want to take every opportunity to have a go at the club
(b) the comparison with commercial sites ( the likes of Haven, SB and Morris) is pointing out that these sites do indeed offer very good special deals to those who can take advantage of them, but at the expense of sky high prices in school holidays.
It's up to everyone to do their own research and choose what suits them, price wise and facility wise.
To suggest that all things commercial/overseas are superior is as ludicrous as suggesting that everything the CC offers is. There are good and bad in both.
I'm sorry if my opening sentence struck a raw nerve, Moulesy, but there you go.
How on earth is comparing with an overseas site (maybe only 30 miles away) and in the same industry, with a similar offering, irrelevant??
Yes commercial sites do tend to follow the principles of supply and demand.......but just how long do you think the CC can ignore this and see their sites sit virtually empty most of the year? Reality will catch up to them......hopefully before they have
had to sell off too many sites.I didn't suggest that commercial sites are always superior.
...Both clubs sites are more or less full during all the peak periods,the thing that is more likely if your asumption ever shows any sign of being correct is that more sites as "over there"will have shorter seasons which will save a lot of money ,to the
detriment of those who want ever cheaper "pensioner"touring off peak
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I've been on many 'commercial' sites and they too can be very quiet at certain times of the year, in fact some CC club sites are more 'lively' and enjoyable to be on during these so called off peak times! Now I know it's a personal opinion but I'd rather keep those differences that we enjoy as a 'club' and would not want all sites to be reduced to the same commercial formula!
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