Excessive site charges
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Yes like the £10 a night we paid last year for a non EHU site in Pembrokeshire. It was our main holiday. I thought we were getting Sea views but no and £10 per night for non EHU is very heavy but that wasn't the end of it. When I came to pay the bill I
owed another £30 - For the awning!! I'll be asking alot more questions in the future.0 -
I've just done a quick check of my favorite site in the lakes and indeed it is £30 per night for a couple, but that was for peak season in August and includes any dogs and awnings. Two non club sites around it start at £37 plus £1.50 per dog and £3 per awning
and the other £34 then £2.45 per dog and £3.30 per awning.So I would say that club sites are in line with non club sites and I have always found them to be a cheaper. Factor into that the assured quality of club sites and to me they are very good value for money.
BUT - no one is forced to use them or join the club in the first place, so if you can find another site that is cheaper and suits your neeeds then go there.
Looking at how most of the service pitches (which are even more expensive) have already gone in peak times most people seem happy with the prices, as I am
Write your comments here...How do you know that most people are happy with the prices
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I've just done a quick check of my favorite site in the lakes and indeed it is £30 per night for a couple, but that was for peak season in August and includes any dogs and awnings. Two non club sites around it start at £37 plus £1.50 per dog and £3 per awning
and the other £34 then £2.45 per dog and £3.30 per awning.So I would say that club sites are in line with non club sites and I have always found them to be a cheaper. Factor into that the assured quality of club sites and to me they are very good value for money.
BUT - no one is forced to use them or join the club in the first place, so if you can find another site that is cheaper and suits your neeeds then go there.
Looking at how most of the service pitches (which are even more expensive) have already gone in peak times most people seem happy with the prices, as I am
Write your comments here...How do you know that most people are happy with the prices
well otherwise why are club sites so full and difficult to book in peak times?
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After reading both last month and this months club magazine i am shocked at the prices charged for club sites Most around £30 per night. We very tour in the uk But use sites abroad Using both the Acsi Card and Camping checks the average cost per night for
2 people /dog and electric is about £13. per night (albe it in low season which is when we go) why are the club stes so expensive Bearing in mind we all pay a subscription of £49 to join the club.The economics of sites abroad is completely different. Small sites may be using family only off season to cut costs that the club cannot do or just getting what they can..
You will probably not find licenced sites of any sort here at £13 a night which confirms the point that our sites cannot run at that level of charge.
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WW, sorry but i dont buy all this 'family business abroad' stuff...
yes, there are sites like this but there are large commercial organisations like Castells (and others) that operate within the acsi scheme at 13 euro (not pounds!).
why isnt the club using its commercial bulk buying power to reduce its costs rather than blame its bulk for its high prices?.
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WW, sorry but i dont buy all this 'family business abroad' stuff...
yes, there are sites like this but there are large commercial organisations like Castells (and others) that operate within the acsi scheme at 13 euro (not pounds!).
why isnt the club using its commercial bulk buying power to reduce its costs rather than blame its bulk for its high prices?.
The C&CC and the large groupings cannot do it so I doubt the CC is any better position.
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Although some consider the prices in the uk for cc (do not belong to ccc so cannot compare),one thing that is noticeable compared to "over there" is the amount of contractors that are having to be employed by the cc to carry out what seems to be any work
over and above most ground work, office work,and cleaning that is carried by the warden teams ,even cleaning on some sites now contracted out, to comply with all sorts of regulations ,so with Grimstead also to be paid for its not a suprise that fees are always
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the other huge commercial that i was thinking of and has sensible pricing is Yelloh!
so, it certainly is possible for the largest of companies to operate a 'real' out of season discount scheme....
perhaps the club should look at getting a 'portfolio-wide' deal on its cleaning if its now not the remit of wardens...
also, having a team at Grimstead is no excuse for high prices, its this team that sells insurance, ferries etc that should make a profit and cover all these costs and more....
i dont see Castells or Yelloh! selling insurance to make ends meet....
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Can you think of a UK based example of huge commercials with sensible pricing?
youll note, i was responding to wildwoods continental posting.....
but as you asked.....Haven, Morris leisure, park resorts....
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Thank you.
I did ask because I'm yet to find a big commercial that doesn't hike the prices up at peak periods Haven and Park Resorts certainly do
you asked for those with sensible prices.....for us, and many others, they are.....for some, like yourself, theyre not.
i agree that there is a wide variation between the offers and peak prices, more so than within CC. however, for some, they can pick the best bits of each organisation, making use of rotating offers between different sites.
if you're used to getting three for two or five for £50 at full fat commercials, £20+ a night at CC seems high....
...and there are many on CT who can make use of these offers, hence the recurring threads on high cc prices....
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As far as I can see the only way to reduce prices for those who expect to pay a tenner a night off peak is to dramatically increase prices in peak times.
I would have thought that someone in head office would know just how much they can add to the coffers by hiking the school holiday prices right up and whether or not it would balance a drop in prices for off peak.
What does the other club do? Any bargains or special deals there?
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As a slight aside to this, members will doubtless recall an element of aggro over parents taking their children out of school for holidays. I was reading an article about home schooling, one such family being quoted in it being the Meeks, of CC fame. There
is no requirement to ensure your children attend school, merely that they receive a suitable education. It could therefore be argued that parents are broadening their childrens education by travel and absence is not entirely detrimental.0 -
As a slight aside to this, members will doubtless recall an element of aggro over parents taking their children out of school for holidays. I was reading an article about home schooling, one such family being quoted in it being the Meeks, of CC fame. There is no requirement to ensure your children attend school, merely that they receive a suitable education. It could therefore be argued that parents are broadening their childrens education by travel and absence is not entirely detrimental.
That's very true CY and, as I understand it, those rules about taking children out of school during term time have now been relaxed somewhat.
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As a slight aside to this, members will doubtless recall an element of aggro over parents taking their children out of school for holidays. I was reading an article about home schooling, one such family being quoted in it being the Meeks, of CC fame. There
is no requirement to ensure your children attend school, merely that they receive a suitable education. It could therefore be argued that parents are broadening their childrens education by travel and absence is not entirely detrimental.Yeah right......and they don't take them out of school just to save money, do they?
Broadening their education? What tosh.......
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As a slight aside to this, members will doubtless recall an element of aggro over parents taking their children out of school for holidays. I was reading an article about home schooling, one such family being quoted in it being the Meeks, of CC fame. There is no requirement to ensure your children attend school, merely that they receive a suitable education. It could therefore be argued that parents are broadening their childrens education by travel and absence is not entirely detrimental.
Yeah right......and they don't take them out of school just to save money, do they?
Broadening their education? What tosh.......
We only ever took ours out of school at primary level. As once they went to secondary school we felt continuity of education more important. However, although saving money was a consideration, our holidays certainly broadened their education. There would have been no other way we could have afforded to visit the lava flows on Vesuvius, the Sistine Chapel, or go underneath a glacier in the Swiss Alps! to name but a few. Yes we did some beaches as well, but we always made sure there was a significant educational element to every holiday.
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As far as I can see the only way to reduce prices for those who expect to pay a tenner a night off peak is to dramatically increase prices in peak times.
I would have thought that someone in head office would know just how much they can add to the coffers by hiking the school holiday prices right up and whether or not it would balance a drop in prices for off peak.
What does the other club do? Any bargains or special deals there?
The C&CC use a system based more on the number of persons with a £5 charge for a hard standing. The adult charge is generally higher than the CC one but children are cheaper and there is a fami,y deal.
The same pricing structure for seasonal and off season charges applies but over 60's get a discount outside peak season.
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Here is an actual comparisson - not hypothetical what would peak summer prices be etc.
3day break Lady Margaret CC 22/2/16.Total cost 1 unit plus 2 adults £45-90. 8/3/16, 3 day break same outfit Morris Leisure,Llanberis £47-00.
Lady Margaret 103pitches. Terrible,rutted entry road. Tired Utility block. Outside Veg & wash unit.Overgrown hard standings.4 mens shower per 103 pitches. Shower pressure almost non existent. Average units on site 9.
Morris Leisure 54 pitches.Immacuate entrance and utility block.Heated indoors Veg prep area.11meters between pegs, 9 meters of hardstandng.4 mens showers for 54 pitches, not pressure but strong flow. Average attendance 20 units.
On a comparison basis if MorrsLeisure was 10,Lady Margaret 6.5/7.So what would be a sensible night price for CC site? With not even a mid week discount only 9 units on site,something is wrong with the pricing. Seems CC have lost sight of what the competition
offers. The old adage of quality no longer applies. Of the people I spoke to at LLanberis, each was a CC member. They had a similar theme- quality of commercail sites and why did the CC sites not open in early March. We will undoubtably go away again before
Easter. but unlikely to be to a CC site. What a huge loss of income for the club. Any answers0 -
Here is an actual comparisson - not hypothetical what would peak summer prices be etc.
3day break Lady Margaret CC 22/2/16.Total cost 1 unit plus 2 adults £45-90. 8/3/16, 3 day break same outfit Morris Leisure,Llanberis £47-00.
Lady Margaret 103pitches. Terrible,rutted entry road. Tired Utility block. Outside Veg & wash unit.Overgrown hard standings.4 mens shower per 103 pitches. Shower pressure almost non existent. Average units on site 9.
Morris Leisure 54 pitches.Immacuate entrance and utility block.Heated indoors Veg prep area.11meters between pegs, 9 meters of hardstandng.4 mens showers for 54 pitches, not pressure but strong flow. Average attendance 20 units.
On a comparison basis if MorrsLeisure was 10,Lady Margaret 6.5/7.So what would be a sensible night price for CC site? With not even a mid week discount only 9 units on site,something is wrong with the pricing. Seems CC have lost sight of what the competition
offers. The old adage of quality no longer applies. Of the people I spoke to at LLanberis, each was a CC member. They had a similar theme- quality of commercail sites and why did the CC sites not open in early March. We will undoubtably go away again before
Easter. but unlikely to be to a CC site. What a huge loss of income for the club. Any answers...Seeing as the Morris site has only opened as a brand new site this month and are promoting it with special offers is it a fair comparison with a site that is nearing its refurb dates that has been open for at least 20yrs that is also a biodiversity site
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the Morris Leisure 'deals' are available at all their sites, we have just enjoyed a week at Ludlow.....this also knocks the spots off most CC sites we have used.....
yes, again it is only a few years old, but if these are new boys to the game, then theyve learnt an awful lot really quickly.....MHSP, showers, shop, office, pitch spacing and levels, all well thought out and executed......entrance way a dream to arrive
at.....oh, and the LNA complete with drainage, water and EHU....rather than knock the commercials, why not get out there and see how it can be done for the same (or lower) rate....
the service and the physical sites at some of these places are more akin to a good continental....
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Here is an actual comparisson - not hypothetical what would peak summer prices be etc.
3day break Lady Margaret CC 22/2/16.Total cost 1 unit plus 2 adults £45-90. 8/3/16, 3 day break same outfit Morris Leisure,Llanberis £47-00.
Lady Margaret 103pitches. Terrible,rutted entry road. Tired Utility block. Outside Veg & wash unit.Overgrown hard standings.4 mens shower per 103 pitches. Shower pressure almost non existent. Average units on site 9.
Morris Leisure 54 pitches.Immacuate entrance and utility block.Heated indoors Veg prep area.11meters between pegs, 9 meters of hardstandng.4 mens showers for 54 pitches, not pressure but strong flow. Average attendance 20 units.
On a comparison basis if MorrsLeisure was 10,Lady Margaret 6.5/7.So what would be a sensible night price for CC site? With not even a mid week discount only 9 units on site,something is wrong with the pricing. Seems CC have lost sight of what the competition
offers. The old adage of quality no longer applies. Of the people I spoke to at LLanberis, each was a CC member. They had a similar theme- quality of commercail sites and why did the CC sites not open in early March. We will undoubtably go away again before
Easter. but unlikely to be to a CC site. What a huge loss of income for the club. Any answers...Seeing as the Morris site has only opened as a brand new site this month and are promoting it with special offers is it a fair comparison with a site that is nearing its refurb dates that has been open for at least 20yrs that is also a biodiversity site
Write your comments here...Peak prices are more at Morris as well +extras
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the Morris Leisure 'deals' are available at all their sites, we have just enjoyed a week at Ludlow.....this also knocks the spots off most CC sites we have used.....
yes, again it is only a few years old, but if these are new boys to the game, then theyve learnt an awful lot really quickly.....MHSP, showers, shop, office, pitch spacing and levels, all well thought out and executed......entrance way a dream to arrive at.....oh, and the LNA complete with drainage, water and EHU....
rather than knock the commercials, why not get out there and see how it can be done for the same (or lower) rate....
the service and the physical sites at some of these places are more akin to a good continental....
...We have uesed Stanmore Hall
amongst other commercials including Haven
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Seemsno one is willing go offer acomparative price on ghe quality of the 2 sites.Is there a newish CC site that one can compare with. Whats this bio diversity nonsense? Just behind and with direct access is the"Doctors Wood" in Llanberis,some 50acres of
mature hardwood but I did not bring this into the comparison as its outside the control of either organisation.0 -
Seemsno one is willing go offer acomparative price on ghe quality of the 2 sites.Is there a newish CC site that one can compare with. Whats this bio diversity nonsense? Just behind and with direct access is the"Doctors Wood" in Llanberis,some 50acres of mature hardwood but I did not bring this into the comparison as its outside the control of either organisation.
...A biodiversity site means there may be restictions on some areas ,whereas a Brand new site ?
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The CC is never going to match up to a good commercial but it will knock spots off a bad one.
I think of it in the same way I think of Clarks shoes. Not especially cheap, not very attractive, something you don't own up to, nothing you'd recommend to friends. Just an average product with a loyal fan base because it delivers what it says it will
(except I don't buy Clarks shoes)
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