Excessive site charges

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  • moulesy
    moulesy Forum Participant Posts: 9,404 ✭✭✭
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    edited March 2016 #243

    Well, I'm just looking at the example of Haven, SB and Morris, all of whom make special offers out of season and then whack up prices horrendously during school holidays. If it's not to subsidise those special deals, I can only conclude they whack up those
    prices simply because they can! Not very family friendly is it?

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  • JayEss
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    edited March 2016 #245

    Of course there are luxury sites in Europe for far less money. You keep telling us. 

    It's still completely irrelevant to a discussion on UK sites and
    UK pricing 

  • moulesy
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    Moulsey

    You wont want to hear this but for the benefit  of anyone who has yet to look at sites elsewhere £18 or €22.83 is not reasonable for a "non luxury" site in April, it is very expensive.

    Well (a) I'm not paying in euros and I assume you're talking about sites in Europe (excuse me yawning) and (b) as far as we're concerned £18 is quite acceptable given that it includes a bank holiday. Stupid, I know, but there we are, that's just us! Laughing

    Additionally, if we added in ferry and fuel costs and the costs of getting the dogs sorted for overseas, it would work out far more expensive per night unless we were going for, say a couple of months. But we have family and volunteering commitments at home which means 3 weeks is the longest we can realistically be away. So for us, it's good value!

  • JVB66
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    edited March 2016 #247

    Moulsey

    You wont want to hear this but for the benefit  of anyone who has yet to look at sites elsewhere £18 or €22.83 is not reasonable for a "non luxury" site in April, it is very expensive.

    ...That does take into account the cost of getting to the euro priced sites of course ? for a short break i mean up to two weeks, not the months that would i think make it a viable option, as most of us living in the UK cannot do 

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  • Tinwheeler
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    edited March 2016 #249

    Exactly, David, that is the difference. As has been pointed out more than once, this is a discussion about
    UK site prices. That means this side of the Channel and you are not comparing like with like - again.

  • brue
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    edited March 2016 #250

    And as always exchange rates make a big difference.

  • huskydog
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    edited March 2016 #251

    The value of a product is down to wether the purchaser feels they have got their money's worth......................

  • moulesy
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    David, I really can't understand why you feel the need to keep banging on about overseas sites in this UK section. Does it not occur to you that there are many, like us, who simply don't want to take a caravan abroad? That's our choice isn't it? And as such, oft repeated claims about the superiority of overseas sites is both tiresome and irrelevant.

    We enjoy visiting Europe; in June we're on a walking holiday in Slovenia; we'll be staying in a good hotel and eating out at a variety of local restaurants. That's my idea of "luxury", not a pitch in a foreign field, whatever extras the site might offer.

  • JVB66
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    edited March 2016 #253

    It does get a bit boring how much better things seem to be "over there" for people who can spend weeks where they can recoup the much higher cost of getting there, where as most people can only spend a couple of weeks at a time which means staycations and
    would probably work out cheaper even with the "high?" charges which are probably a lot to do with the increasing regulations that we in the UK implement compared to some countries  who "acknowledge" them?

    One example is the european directive that mains sewerage is installed,but a lot of the French "mayors" have ignored,and some friends of ours who came over for Chistmas were telling us will not happen as is the usual French"shrug"
    Undecided 

  • brue
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    Hmm, well I hope those who travel abroad do so because they like it rather than because it's cheaper. Wink We're like many on here with limited
    scope for travel due to commitments/pets/quite like it here etc etc. but the cost of our holidays is not so important as the quality both in time and money. 

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  • JayEss
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    edited March 2016 #256

    On this
    thread
     you said:-

    The mods should have moved this to the overseas section and then it would have only been answered by those who actually tour in Europe

    See anything ironic in that? 


  • Fisherman
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    edited March 2016 #257

    Still no offers for a rate at Lady Margaret based on the information given.

  • JVB66
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    edited March 2016 #258

    Still no offers for a rate at Lady Margaret based on the information given.

    For an "old site" and the area its not a problem for us ,there are a lot worse,I wonder if it is leased and coming up for renewal ?if so the cc are  like any organisation going to spend big money until it has a future , ...

  • JayEss
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    edited March 2016 #259

    It'll be leased I expect. If it was owned they'd be trying to redevelop it 

  • SteveL
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    edited March 2016 #260

    I am not sure what Deleted User User thinks we can do about it. Sites, like for like, are more expensive here than over the water, that's just how it is. OK you have a choice of which sites to go at and you can mix and match to get the best deals, but overall
    you will pay more per night. It happens with other things, such as iPhones, they always seem to be much cheaper in the USA, however if you want one you have to pay the price in GB. What they cost elsewhere is somewhat irrelevant.

  • Tinwheeler
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    I am not sure what Deleted User User thinks we can do about it. Sites, like for like, are more expensive here than over the water, that's just how it is. OK you have a choice of which sites to go at and you can mix and match to get the best deals, but overall
    you will pay more per night. It happens with other things, such as iPhones, they always seem to be much cheaper in the USA, however if you want one you have to pay the price in GB.
    What they cost elsewhere is somewhat irrelevant.

    Exactly the point some of us keep making, Steve.

  • Fisherman
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    edited March 2016 #262

    There was planning 2 years go to increase the site.Hardly likely to be if the lease was up. Have the "peak" people wondered what will happen to prices now that we "off peakers" are going elsewhere thus reducing the clubs income. One way only extra premiums
    at peak times.

  • JayEss
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    edited March 2016 #263

    Off peakers have always been going elsewhere. Club sites have always been virtually empty in March. 

    Nothing will change. This annual debate has continued since CT was in existence and it's not going to make any difference 

  • Boff
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    edited March 2016 #264

    Not sure what everyone thinks is wrong with LM'sP apart from the rabbits.   But I do know that there are plans to expand the number of pitches.  

  • JayEss
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    edited March 2016 #265

    I like LMP actually. 

    A luxury site in Llanberis is no use to me if I want to stay in Chirk which I do quite often 

  • JVB66
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    edited March 2016 #266

    There was planning 2 years go to increase the site.Hardly likely to be if the lease was up. Have the "peak" people wondered what will happen to prices now that we "off peakers" are going elsewhere thus reducing the clubs income. One way only extra premiums at peak times.

    ...And was there a reason it was not implemented did the landlord object? before the cc purchased Black Knowl ,there had been years when no big needed upgrade was feasable as the landlord would not renew the lease long term,Baltic Wharf is in that situation now,as the cc is not going to put big money in

  • cyberyacht
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    edited March 2016 #267

    The nub of this discourse appears to be the amount the CC charge in low season for a site with relatively basic facilities. With low occupancy rates, they do not seem to have grasped the notion of discounted offers to increase low serason occupancy on the
    basis that 'half a loaf is better than no bread".

  • Alan53
    Alan53 Forum Participant Posts: 1
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    On the subject of pitch fees: I was led to believe that AS sites allowed Club members a discount on the usual `Joe Public' fees- otherwise what is the point of them?

    As featured in this months magazine, the Club has now welcomed East Fleet Farm in Dorset as an Affiliated Site- but I note that the tarrif on the Clubs website is exactly the same as that quoted on East Fleets website. Am I missing something here?

  • SteveL
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    edited March 2016 #269

    I'm not sure they all offer a discount. However, one thing at all AS sites we have stopped on, is there was no deposit required for the barrier card. For Joe public it was £5 / £10.

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  • moulesy
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    edited March 2016 #271

    £20 a night, midweek in March? You're having a laugh, surely!!WinkLaughingLaughing