Excessive site charges
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The club needs to increase prices at peak times to discourage the wrinklies from booking. It's not rocket science just common sense.
Write your comments here...That is what I was thinking, if they increased the price July / August the people who book July or August would have a greater choice as no benefit would be gained from just using CC sites, plus it gives people who could move their
date's a greater incentive to do so, so relieving pressure on the club sites0 -
The club needs to increase prices at peak times to discourage the wrinklies from booking. It's not rocket science just common sense.
Write your comments here...That is what I was thinking, if they increased the price July / August the people who book July or August would have a greater choice as no benefit would be gained from just using CC sites, plus it gives people who could move their
date's a greater incentive to do so, so relieving pressure on the club sitesAs most of the wrinkles, me included avoid the peak periods as much as possible, all it would end up doing is increasing prices for those who have no choice when they holiday and have no affect on availability whatsoever.
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The club needs to increase prices at peak times to discourage the wrinklies from booking. It's not rocket science just common sense.
Write your comments here...That is what I was thinking, if they increased the price July / August the people who book July or August would have a greater choice as no benefit would be gained from just using CC sites, plus it gives people who could move their
date's a greater incentive to do so, so relieving pressure on the club sitesBoth very good points, well made, Boff and Hooker128
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The club needs to increase prices at peak times to discourage the wrinklies from booking. It's not rocket science just common sense.
Write your comments here...That is what I was thinking, if they increased the price July / August the people who book July or August would have a greater choice as no benefit would be gained from just using CC sites, plus it gives people who could move their
date's a greater incentive to do so, so relieving pressure on the club sitesAs most of the wrinkles, me included avoid the peak periods as much as possible, all it would end up doing is increasing prices for those who have no choice when they holiday and have no affect on availability whatsoever.
Write your comments here...so the warmest two months of the year are avoided By most wrinkles, I doubt that very much, it is time the CC acted in a more commercial way.
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Don't mean to appear rude but .... seems like a touch of self-interest in some of the above posts. Let's whack up the July/August prices (mainly for families in the school holidays) so that the club can offer better deals for the "wrinklies" in low season.
No thank you! (And that's from one of those "wrinklies!
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I'm with you Moulesy, the average increase for school holidays and bank holidays is 40%, that doesn't sound much like an inclusive club to me. In contrast I've only seen a couple of CL's that increase their prices in the summer, one near Cromer comes to mind
2016 pricing:26 Feb to 31 Mar 2016 – £1501 Apr to 30 Apr 2016 – £1601 May to 31 May 2016 – £1701 June to 15 July 2016 – £1816 July to 31 Aug 2016 – £2001 Sep to 30 Sep 2016 – £1701 Oct to 07 Nov 2016 – £150 -
I am only tempted to use main CC sites in the late autumn/winter months mainly for hard standings and many CLs are closed. Its not just the cost saving which attracts me to CLs but the quietness they offer. I an not anti social but it is nice to have a bit
of space rather than living in a glorified car park.0 -
For the same week, for the same family group assuming the two children are under 11, Fursdon Farm near Liskeard in Cornwall will charge £112. Or £126 if you want a hard standing pitch. Yes it's inland, but has a swimming pool.
I gave you all this one a few days ago. Standard fixed pricing all the year round. No summer increases. No winter discounts.
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Don't mean to appear rude but .... seems like a touch of self-interest in some of the above posts. Let's whack up the July/August prices (mainly for families in the school holidays) so that the club can offer better deals for the "wrinklies" in low season.
No thank you! (And that's from one of those "wrinklies!
)+ 1 all the way Mr M. I notice that the club has 'kids for a £1 per night' this year on a large number of sites, and as that includes 17 year olds that is exxellent news and really makes the club sites even more very good value for money, if you have children
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The club needs to increase prices at peak times to discourage the wrinklies from booking. It's not rocket science just common sense.
Write your comments here...That is what I was thinking, if they increased the price July / August the people who book July or August would have a greater choice as no benefit would be gained from just using CC sites, plus it gives people who could move their
date's a greater incentive to do so, so relieving pressure on the club sitesAs most of the wrinkles, me included avoid the peak periods as much as possible, all it would end up doing is increasing prices for those who have no choice when they holiday and have no affect on availability whatsoever.
We never go anywhere in high season ever. To much price increase.
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There is some ruddish talked about on here most wrinkles do not use sites in peak times unless unavoidable. But also how come dogs are free yet you have to pay for children from the age of 3. Going back to wrinkly's all these younger people will some day
be wrinkles bet they will change there minds then.0 -
As most of the wrinkles, me included avoid the peak periods as much as possible, all it would end up doing is increasing prices for those who have no choice when they holiday and have no affect on availability whatsoever.
Write your comments here...so the warmest two months of the year are avoided By most wrinkles, I doubt that very much, it is time the CC acted in a more commercial way.
Statistically August is one of our higher rainfall months, although true it is warm. Personally we prefer June and September when the sites are much less busy and the weather is still good.
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I think you will find that anyone captive to the school holiday periods are already paying the top prices Ian, while those of us lucky enough not to be tied to school holidays have been enjoying some tremendous off peak Winter touring bargains. So I think
the Club are already in the "pile the charges on for school holidays" way of thinking. Unless the more astute parents take advantage of some of the lovely smaller no frills sites, which even at £14 per night are a bargain. Caravanning might look a cheap holiday
alternative for a family, but unless you are going to use a van more than a couple of times a year, there are far more advantageous family holidays. Shopping around, doing some bargaining, avoiding properties tied to holiday letting agencies can yield some
fantastic bargains. Last holiday I took my parents away, (five of us plus two dogs) we had a 10 bed cottage, with indoor pool, tennis courts and private parking, on Cornish coast, mid July for under £400.0 -
The club needs to increase prices at peak times to discourage the wrinklies from booking. It's not rocket science just common sense.
Write your comments here...That is what I was thinking, if they increased the price July / August the people who book July or August would have a greater choice as no benefit would be gained from just using CC sites, plus it gives people who could move their
date's a greater incentive to do so, so relieving pressure on the club sitesAs most of the wrinkles, me included avoid the peak periods as much as possible, all it would end up doing is increasing prices for those who have no choice when they holiday and have no affect on availability whatsoever.
We never go anywhere in high season ever. To much price increase.
Plenty of CLs that don't increase prices at peak periods, and some small commercial sites too. Depends on what facilities you want the site to have.
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Kids are already heavily subsidised when using CC sites.
The CC will at some point have to face commercial reality and start to charge like their competitors......reduce rates out of season and increase at peak season.
Write your comments here...Totaly agree,
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Everyone's choice is very simple , if you don't like the CC prices don't use their sites , how easy is that
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Everyone's choice is very simple , if you don't like the CC prices don't use their sites , how easy is that
could not agree more
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Kids are already heavily subsidised when using CC sites.
The CC will at some point have to face commercial reality and start to charge like their competitors......reduce rates out of season and increase at peak season.
Why, Ian?
Why? Because they are only charged at about half price, or even at £1 at some times.
Or did you mean Why do the CC do that? I really don't know, because it seems unfair to me that a family with one or two people working and bringing in wages should be subsidised by someone surviving on a pension that is a fraction of a wage.
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I would go even further with popular sites carrying a surcharge but then CC seem to be out of step with any other leisure industry, supply and demand comes to mind
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Kids are already heavily subsidised when using CC sites.
The CC will at some point have to face commercial reality and start to charge like their competitors......reduce rates out of season and increase at peak season.
Why, Ian?
Why? Because they are only charged at about half price, or even at £1 at some times.
Or did you mean Why do the CC do that? I really don't know, because it seems unfair to me that a family with one or two people working and bringing in wages should be subsidised by someone surviving on a pension that is a fraction of a wage.
Well thats obviously your take on the situation. But I have to say that if the CC goes down the route of Haven, Sandy Balls etc and offers what are undoubtedly extremely good deals to pensioners out of season, but only because they are subsidised by sky
high prices in July and August it would be a very sad day indeed.The thing is Ian, you and I, as retired fok, can pick and choose and take advantage of those deals if we want to. It's a nice position to be in. But families with school aged children don't have that luxury.
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Kids are already heavily subsidised when using CC sites.
The CC will at some point have to face commercial reality and start to charge like their competitors......reduce rates out of season and increase at peak season.
Why, Ian?
Why? Because they are only charged at about half price, or even at £1 at some times.
Or did you mean Why do the CC do that? I really don't know, because it seems unfair to me that a family with one or two people working and bringing in wages should be subsidised by someone surviving on a pension that is a fraction of a wage.
Well thats obviously your take on the situation. But I have to say that if the CC goes down the route of Haven, Sandy Balls etc and offers what are undoubtedly extremely good deals to pensioners out of season, but only because they are subsidised by sky
high prices in July and August it would be a very sad day indeed.The thing is Ian, you and I, as retired fok, can pick and choose and take advantage of those deals if we want to. It's a nice position to be in. But families with school aged children don't have that luxury.
Very well written Mr M, it appears that some just want to feather their own nest at the expense of others, sad really, and detrimental to the club long term if young families are turned away from the club. One thing I have noticed on club sites that it is
the retired folk that have the most expensive and newer towcars and high end spec caravans while the young families are the one with the middle range cars and outfits.0 -
It isn't necessarily a case of retired people potentially being subsidised by those with families. Retired people have the freedom to go away during the week and in off-peak periods whereas those working and with families, don't. I don't think the club
is doing enough to stimulate demand during those quiet periods. We were at Chatsworth at the end of January and, Sunday afternoon to Friday afternoon, there were a total of 9 or 10 units on site - out of a capacity of about 120. With fixed overheads, that
just can't make sense. I can't say that reducing mid-week prices would definitely boost demand, but I would have thought it worth a try.0 -
It isn't necessarily a case of retired people potentially being subsidised by those with families. Retired people have the freedom to go away during the week and in off-peak periods whereas those working and with families, don't. I don't think the club
is doing enough to stimulate demand during those quiet periods. We were at Chatsworth at the end of January and, Sunday afternoon to Friday afternoon, there were a total of 9 or 10 units on site - out of a capacity of about 120. With fixed overheads, that
just can't make sense. I can't say that reducing mid-week prices would definitely boost demand, but I would have thought it worth a try.Exactly so. The CC has its corporate head in the sand, holding prices at high levels out of season and mid week, whilst seeing their sites stand nearly empty at those times (and now, it seems, selling off some prime sites to pay for their mistakes).
Some of their sites are near impossible to book at weekends, while still being empty during the week.....forcing potential customers, who want a full week, to go elsewhere.
Some organisations only ever learn by their mistakes......they must be able to see what their competitors are doing, but still they will do nothing until they are forced to (or until it's too late).
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Ian, what do you call a "high price" out of season? We can go to a CC site - 2 adults, 2 dogs, HS, EHU and awning for £15 to £18 a night. I'm happy to pay that, don't regard it as "high". We could get better deals at some commercial sites, I accept that, but they come at the expense of much higher than CC prices in peak season.
I do think the CC could think about discounts for late bookings to fill empty pitches, but that aside, I'm quite relaxed about their prices.
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Well, Moulesy.......we recently booked a week in Devon followed by a week in the New Forest in May
We will pay £95 and £150 to commercial sites. That includes an extra large pitch, fully serviced amd a choice of the actual pitch.
At CC sites, for the same weeks it would have been £140 and £180.......with no serviced pitch (they weren't available as the weekends were booked up, but would have added about £30/week if they were) and taking our chances on whether we got grass or hardstanding.
The commercial sites also include pools etc......not something I'm bothered about, but you would expect it to cost extra.
No contest, really.
While ever people continue to say that they can find no fault whatsoever with the CC and everything they do is perfect, they will never change.
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