2023 site fees

2scompany
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We've started our season annually at Blackpool South over the Easter period.  Has anyone else noticed the site fees for 2023.  As an example this one has increased by 61% for exactly the same period in 2022? (£140 for 9 nights in monetary terms).  Have you noticed similar or have any comments/views.  

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  • Tinwheeler
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    edited January 2023 #2

    There are numerous instances quoted on this forum throughout the various threads. It’s to be expected I think in view and of the state of our economy - in particular, rising energy prices. CAMC has explained prices have risen due to electricity costs.

  • Cornersteady
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    edited January 2023 #4

    You could always cancel now and still get your deposits back if you paid one or if you booked under the old system it's even easier, and find a better site pricewise?

    But sorry are you sure you've done your calculations right? A 61% increase would mean the cost last Easter would be about £23 for a couple. I can't recall any club site like Blackpool being that low but I don't know what the prices were last year?

    My increases have been like 7 to 9% on comparable sites.

  • SteveL
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    edited January 2023 #5

    Prices for the same dates can vary due to peak being in a different place because of when Easter falls. However, is the OP certain of the 61% figure as this seem high. This year at peak the cost is £36.90 a night, meaning last years price would have been £23. That seems unlikely. The only way I could get close to 61% is if most of last years break was at the pre Easter rate ( this year 28.40) rather than peak. That isn’t really a fair comparison.

    edit posted at the same time CS. Glad I got my maths right.😂

  • SteveL
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    edited January 2023 #7

    We would use C&CC sites in preference to CAMC now because of age related discount. However, they are of no use if not in the right place. Location is the number one priority. Site provider / price second.

  • Oneputt
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    edited January 2023 #9

    At the end of May I’m travelling solo to West Wales.  I saw a CL that seemed promising so made contact.  The cost was £23/night plus meter electric etc, etc. Deposit £25 if cancelled 21 days before arrival they refunded £15 and kept £10 as an admin fee.

     Not to far away was a non facilities club site which costs £13.50/night including electricity.  Club site booked, no brainer really

  • richardandros
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    edited January 2023 #10

    And we think Blackmore is a much nicer site that Malvern. We were there a few years ago and chatting with a couple in the pub who were staying on the CAMC site. They couldn't believe it when they realised we were paying a £100 less than them for a week's stay (with ACR) at Blackmore.

  • Cornersteady
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    edited January 2023 #12

    Disagree, the price of club sites remain competitive and middle of the road, and the T&C are certainly better than most if not all comparable commercial sites, and doubtless I'll be using a lot again this year.

  • Cornersteady
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    edited January 2023 #13

    And what's the price if one can't get the discount? 

    Of course if one can and one thinks the two give equal quality then go for the cheaper, no question.

  • paulmold
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    edited January 2023 #14

    The July/August discount is available to all, promotion code is listed along with the midweek discount, weekend discount,  grass only pitch discount on the club website, book a site, special offers. You get the age concession if your over 60.

  • Cornersteady
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    edited January 2023 #15

    But I asked what the price was if you couldn't get the discounts you talked about, that is what is the price if one is under 60? Or want to go over a weekend rather than a weekend? or on a HS? You have to compare like with like for it to be a fair comparison? Quoting the cheapest possible price with all the discounts thrown in doesn't give that in my view. 

    And of course quality is subjective and in someone's eyes worth paying for.

  • paulmold
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    edited January 2023 #16

    I gave like for like dates, hardstanding pitch with electric. 

  • Cornersteady
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    edited January 2023 #17

    Yes you did for dates but didn't state it was for HS and EHU and any details of which discounts were applied to get that price:

    Using the C&CC discount for July, I've just compared the CAMC site at Malvern and the C&CC site at Malvern (if you're not aware they are next door to each other sharing the same driveway.). CAMC £32 per night, C&CC £18 per night. 

    I was interested to see what the price at the CCC would be without any discounts that you've since mentioned like midweek discount, weekend discount, grass only pitch discount and the age related discount to give fair comparison.

    But it doesn't matter Paul, if you've found a price that suits you then that's all that matters in the end, just enjoy it.

     

  • paulmold
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    edited January 2023 #18

    Without any discount- £27 per night. 

  • brue
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    edited January 2023 #19

    C&CC are also offering 10% extra off the age concession, it just depends on time and place but Malvern is good way to compare with the club sites next to each other.

     By the way I like CAMC Malvern because of the open views of the Malvern Hills ....there's no pleasing all of us even on price. wink

  • Cornersteady
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    edited January 2023 #20

    Ok thanks for replying Paul.

  • Steve Dutson
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    edited January 2023 #21

    I agree prices are high. I have booked 2 best of British sites for May and September. Eight nights fully serviced £80 cheaper than C&MC

  • SteveL
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    edited January 2023 #22

    Such figures are of course fairly meaningless. Now both clubs require a deposit I would book a C&CC site in preference to CAMC, as it would save about £8 / £10 a night, due to the application of Age related discount. I might also book a commercial at a cheaper or higher price. However, in each case it would only be if the site was where we wanted to be, otherwise there would be little point in saving the money. Even when we had a caravan we preferred not to use the car, so a site has to have safe walking from the gate onto public footpaths and preferably access to public transport. There would be absolutely no point in us using a site off a busy road without a pavement,  no walking tracks and miles from a bus route, even if it was substantially cheaper. Well other than for a night stop over anyway.

  • Briang
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    edited January 2023 #23

    I have just checked the site fees for the New Forest Cenntenary Site in the New Forest 2023

    We were there on the 1st September 2022 for 14 nights cost for a standard hard standing pitch with electric £544.60. The cost for the same time this year identical pitch £627.80.

    Gone up by £83.20 what a rip off.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited January 2023 #24

    Is it a rip off or is it a justifiable increase due to rising operating costs? Neither of us know the answer and I'll not jump to conclusions without evidence. 

  • Briang
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    edited January 2023 #25

    What do you want evidence for?? Don't you believe me. Why would i lie.!!!

  • Cornersteady
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    edited January 2023 #26

    TW is not asking for evidence about the price increase but evidence for it being a rip off or being an increase that can be justified, in terms of increased site/fuel/energy costs on the club that it has to pass down to those using the site otherwise it would run at a loss.

    The bottom line is that if you think the increase is too much then don't pay it and find a comparable site elsewhere.

  • Hja
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    edited January 2023 #27

    I dont think TW is doubting the rise in price. I think the evidence he alludes to is the reasons for the increase in price, maybe additional electricity cost, higher costs for rubbish removal etc. That’s how I read it, any way.

  • eurortraveller
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    edited January 2023 #28

    What is it ? 15% increase? In the present day and age it seems reasonable to me - it’s a far smaller increase than some of the bills outside caravanning that I have to pay these days. Some are 30% higher than last year.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited January 2023 #29

    Goodness, Briang, why do you think I doubt you? I questioned whether the price increase is a rip off or justifiable. Neither of us can reach a conclusive decision on that as we do not have any evidence to prove which it is, as Corners and hja explained very clearly.

  • MikeyA
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    edited January 2023 #30

    Have you booked it again for this year?  If you did then you must think it is acceptable?

    ( I wouldn't have paid last year's price!!)

    We stayed at a great site in Fordingbridge last May at £21/ night.

  • brue
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    edited January 2023 #31

    Just for fun you can find your own "inflation rates" ours is running at just over 11%...

    https://www.ons.gov.uk/economy/inflationandpriceindices/articles/howisinflationaffectingyourhouseholdcosts/2022-03-23