New Booking System

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  • peedee
    peedee Club Member Posts: 9,387 ✭✭✭
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    edited December 2022 #2462

    EE is indeed owned by BT, they bought it from Deutsche Telecom and France Telecom who jointly owned it. (its origins were in T-Mobile and Orange)

    O2 is owned by Virgin Media (think its origins were NTL and Mercury Comms)

    Three Mobile is owned by Hutchison a Hong Kong based company, I think Hutchison originally started Orange?

    Vodafone is of course UK owned and is possibly the only original mobile network provider of the lot.

    Everything else, Tescos, Giff Gaff, L:ebara etc are virtual networks carried on one of the above.

    peedee

     

     
  • EmilysDad
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    edited December 2022 #2463

    A neighbour used to work for Hutchison, they started the 'Rabbit' phones which basically allowed you to use your home phone number while out & about. He said their aim was to put a phone in everyone's pocket. At the time we thought ... 'As if! Why would you want/need to carry a phone around with you?' 

    How little did we know!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rabbit_(telecommunications)

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited December 2022 #2464

    🤣🤣🤣. Nice one CR👍🏻

  • young thomas
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    edited December 2022 #2465

    You wouldnt want to be using the inverter much this weather, not much in the way of sunshine to replace the power used.

    we have 300w on the roof but even that can't collect something that isn't there. 
    a simple tablet for browsing is far easier, IMHO.

    I don't find letters or maps or other elements of a web page too small, just pinch or unpinch the screen to make it larger🤷🏻‍♂️

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited December 2022 #2466

    Plusnet(BT) uses EE so I agree with you.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited December 2022 #2467

    O2 and Virgin Mobile merged their UK businesses -

    "Liberty Global, which owns the UK’s largest cable company Virgin, and Telefónica, which owns Britain’s biggest mobile operator O2, are to merge their UK operations in a new 50-50 joint venture."

    It's ironic that BT founded BT Cellnet then sold the operation, renamed O2, to Telefonica and some years later bought EE to fill the gap it left. 🤷🏻‍♀️

    Anyway, reception permitting, I doubt there’s much between any of them when it comes to using the new booking system.

     

  • SteveL
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    edited December 2022 #2468

    Anyway, reception permitting, I doubt there’s much between any of them when it comes to using the new booking system.

    Agree as long as you can get 5 mbs or better the new booking system runs In a reasonably fluid fashion. Any less, which is almost always the case on CC WiFi and it keeps locking up, particularly if trying to use the map.

  • Rowena
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    edited December 2022 #2469

    Hi everyone, We recognise that not all members search in the same way and as such you can now either search for CLs alongside UK Club sites using the new search functionality on the website via the homepage. Or, if you prefer you can search for only CLs using this link https://www.caravanclub.co.uk/uk-holidays/uk-search-and-book/certificated-locations/.

    Please note: Prices and directions for CLs are visible only to members on the individual site details pages www.camc.com/cls

  • JVB66
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    edited December 2022 #2470

    Do they or as usual  retisent to put their heads above the parapet sealed

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited December 2022 #2471

    No, they seem to be posting here of their successful booking experiences. 

  • JVB66
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    edited December 2022 #2472

    Also any where and there are it seems many areas that have poor Internet speeds or as a telecoms engineer working in the virgin cabinet near our garage .says nothing is coming anywhere near the speeds that are advertised, unless you are next door to a switching station and they are nearly all in BT exchanges

    Some friends of ours in West Summerton Norfolk and the others in the lanes they all live in , were about five years ago quoted £6000 per property  to have fibre optic cables to increase their Internet speeds from 2? whatever that means

  • JVB66
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    edited December 2022 #2473

    That means at least one or two thenlaughing

  • JVB66
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    edited December 2022 #2474

    Are you talking at home with good Internet or when mobile or on sites

  • Hja
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    edited December 2022 #2475

    Thanks Rowena.  However when you take the View CLs on Map link you return to the "new" booking system i.e. without full details.  In the "old" system the map view still linked to the full details.  Is the Club going to reinstate that?

  • SteveL
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    edited December 2022 #2476

    Internet speed via mobile on site is rarely an issue. We can normally get speeds of at least 20 to 30mb on either my EE or OH O2 phone. At home we have about 70 mbs on fibre to the cabinet. However, all are overkill for the new booking system, 5 mbs is plenty. I don’t subscribe to CC WiFi anymore, it was OK when there was less 4G coverage, but that has improved immensely over the last few years. Unless it’s improved significantly since I last used it, there would generally be insufficient bandwidth to cope with the new booking system.

  • brue
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    edited December 2022 #2477

    I've just tried this and clicked on the map search and got a random list of 20 CLs, I clicked map search again and got a uk map which seems to cover everywhere from N to S. Don't understand what is going on really, just seems a total jumble. frown

  • cyberyacht
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    edited December 2022 #2478

    You forgot the "Splash and Dash" service.

    So overall "Camping & Caravan Club" are more motorhome oriented than "Caravan & Motorhome Club". Who'd have thought it?

    Anyway leaving that aside, a thread with around 2500 posts show clearly that "there's trouble at mill"

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited December 2022 #2479

    Just seen a post on Facebook from someone who persisted with his concerns about the new system and actually got a more detailed response from the Club. The upshot was that the Club intend to issue a new release of both the website and the App around February next year. No specific details of what the issues the Club will be addressing in the new release. Whether this turns out to be a major revision or just just minor tweaks we will have to wait and see in the absence of any official updates here or on the website.

    David

  • SteveL
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    edited December 2022 #2480

    I don’t suppose they are going to announce anything. After the one we have now was put back and back before it’s final rather chaotic release.

  • Lyke Wake Man
    Lyke Wake Man Forum Participant Posts: 238
    edited December 2022 #2481

    if you went away this time of year you would want ehu, it's too cold to be off grid, if we go off grid it's in the summer

  • JVB66
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    edited December 2022 #2482

    That is what is needed a persistent member,to get any form of replies that may make sense of this debacle

    It took me seven years of being persistent with a company to get a satisfactory resolution  as most organisations are hoping that the complainants will give up

    Good for the member who kept at them

    And then there are a Couple who post on here pps ting about continuing to complain who it seems do not have the stamina to keep at it

    Although it proves yet again lack of communication to members on this clubs own website it took 4days for any further information about the CL,s update on here after all the other website already knew

    Ps so how much of our money has this debacle cost so far with it seems another reissue next Feb maybe?

  • SteveL
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    edited December 2022 #2483

    Ps so how much of our money has this debacle cost so far with it seems another reissue next Feb maybe?

    It depends what’s involved. All Apps / websites undergo constant updates. Some are minor bug, fixes, some more major and occasionally a complete overhaul / face lift. As an example there have been 25 updates to the iPad John Lewis App in the last 12 months.

  • Metheven
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    edited December 2022 #2484

    Is there a big problem that's worth getting in a 'tizzy' about, it just takes a little longer and a little more thought to negotiate the site and booking procedure. If I was worried, concerned or frustrated I rather wish this was at the top end of my list in the present climate. 

  • brue
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    edited December 2022 #2485

    On Trust Pilot CAMC say..."ironing out....problems that were not seen when simulating expected scenarios."

    In other words the remit probably wasn't right in the first place. Did they actually listen to what members wanted, did they actually ask? I think most of us would have liked the ease of the original booking system with an additional payment facility attached. But I don't recall being asked.

  • brue
    brue Forum Participant Posts: 21,176 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    edited December 2022 #2486

    No of course it isn't but as most of us are paying members it doesn't hurt to question what is happening with our money. There are over 2000 posts on this thread.

  • Metheven
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    edited December 2022 #2487

    But over 2000 posts on the thread subject seems a little OTT, the point has been made and its just going around in an endless cycle. I could understand the frustration if the posts were from different members, but one on here must account for neartly half of them and another dozen the remainder (rough estimate)laughing

  • huskydog
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    edited December 2022 #2491

    Now , I see the CAMC as a leisure business that I pay for a discount card to use their sites , there are other options I can use if I don’t like what the CAMC is offering