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  • Unknown
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    edited December 2021 #1652
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  • Tammygirl
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    edited December 2021 #1653

    Not forgetting that the world is far more populated than back in the days of smallpox. 

    I know we have better living standards now in many countries. 

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited December 2021 #1654

    Forgive me but I’m willing to take the words of experts before your musings LLM. They are all sharing findings from around the globe, the knowledge is growing hourly plus South Africa have been dealing with Omicron for weeks. When they say it’s worse I’ll listen to them & repeat it right now they’re saying what I’ve posted👍🏻

  • brue
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    edited December 2021 #1655

    I think we're off the smallpox subject now. smile

    so back to Covid....

    Just been to a garden centre, everyone back to wearing masks.

    All of our theatre visits this year were mask wearing events....it got very uncomfortable by the end of the evening but I'm glad it's going to be compulsory.

    I didn't wear one in the cinema, about ten people in that day in a big space, still a risk I suppose so another good precaution.

    edit     don't know my thoughts on SA as news reports vary so much!

     

     

  • peedee
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    edited December 2021 #1656

    The country cannot afford another lockdown, I don't see it myself either. The push is to vaccinate as many of the population as possible not for lockdown.

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  • JVB66
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    edited December 2021 #1657

    I as you think another lock down would be a complete disaster for the country ,,and it seems the same information is now out in the public domain, with the option of a lockdown in plan Csurprised

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited December 2021 #1658

    But can the NHS continue to function if there is a huge increase in numbers requiring hospital admission should the virus run amok because we don't have another lockdown? It will hurt the country a lot more if it gets overrun, in the long term.

  • brue
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    edited December 2021 #1659

    A rock and a hard place comes to mind. frown

  • JVB66
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    edited December 2021 #1660

    Glad to see I am not the only one the email was sent to thencool

  • Rufs
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    edited December 2021 #1661
  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited December 2021 #1662

    Me toocoolwink

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited December 2021 #1663

    It must be good to know you're on a par with the tabloids, JV😆

  • JVB66
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    edited December 2021 #1664

    And it is also proof if needed, that that when I post info  that some try to not think is genuine how wrong they areundecidedwink

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited December 2021 #1665

    I'm delighted you see it as a positive 👍

  • JVB66
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    edited December 2021 #1666

    All you have to do is realise thatundecided

  • brue
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    edited December 2021 #1667

    Well I'm just glad to hear there is a plan C, we didn't do very well with plan A so we've got 23 more letters to go....wink

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  • young thomas
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    edited December 2021 #1669

    Agreed David. OH and I had to queue for an hour, despite 'an appointment' as the centre had 'overbooked'...

    fortunately, at a different centre, my dad went straight in despite being ahead of schedule...

    on the BBC covid data webpage there is a section to put in your own postcode.

    here you'll find local figure but also broken down by 'over 60 years' and 'under'.

    the two different trends are stark...generally cases falling as older folk complete their courses, younger folk (includes unvaxed) cases rising (sharply) which is the headline figure you see on the news each evening...

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited December 2021 #1670

    Some of us think plan B should have been with us for a long time and doesn't go far enough now. I know the economic argument against another lockdown but we need to do something drastic to stop Omicron as far as we can and certainly until it's known how dangerous it is.

  • SteveL
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    edited December 2021 #1671

    The passport needs bringing in for more things, getting into your place of work, restaurants, pubs, cinemas shopping  centres to name but a few. It also, for all adults,  needs to be  a minimum of two jabs. None of this a negative lateral flow (which might not of been carried out) will suffice. That might encourage a few more, of the still large number unvaccinated, to get a jab.

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  • rutlandwarrior
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    edited December 2021 #1673

    Thank god the majority view on this forum is the minority view in the real world. We don't want another lockdown or anymore restrictions on our freedom and as for passports in our own country NO NO NO. We were lied to about vaccinations giving us our freedom back and everyone I have spoken to has had enough so if the government try anything more drastic I think we will see civil unrest.

  • brue
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    edited December 2021 #1674

    Regarding the Lateral flow test it has to be officially logged into the NHS web site and the results shown via the NHS Covid 19 App but I agree it's not good.

    I think the gov. is now ramping up the campaign to get people to take up the vaccine, it probably needs to be quite scary. Other campaigns on a similar level have worked. I find the films of blackened Covid molecules in the air are quite potent....The trouble is those who are aware are probably more worried than those who aren't.  IMHO

  • SteveL
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    edited December 2021 #1675

    I just don’t have any confidence that someone not prepared to have the vaccine is going to actually do the lateral flow test. All they need is the code off it. Shame it can’t only show a code, after you have tested negative or positive.

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  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited December 2021 #1677

    +1, to me it’s a passport to freedom not to curtail it. I’ve seen the ‘civil unrest’-a few hundred anti vax & anti maskers wanting the right to kill people with their selfish demands. This would’ve been way more easier if everyone made the effort not just the majority, we live in a democracy thankfully, that’s majority rule not minority rule👍🏻👏🏻👏🏻

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  • SteveL
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    edited December 2021 #1679

    Possibly if only one code could be shown. I was thinking along the lines that the developing test strip showed the code,  with a different one for positive and negative.

  • Tammygirl
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    edited December 2021 #1680

    But it's still down to the honesty of the person taking the test. What's to stop you getting someone else to take it for you. 

    In a group of folk one takes a test, knows they are negative and then takes all the tests for everyone else. 

    The whole system is flawed, unless the test is witnessed who's to say it was you that did it. 

  • Bakers2
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    edited December 2021 #1681

    The thoughtless, not my best word for them but one I can use, are certainly out there

    I collected our repaired old clock recently. The horologist, he's got a 50 year society membership so not a young man, was saying he'd set off to deliver a large clock when his wife got a phone call asking if he could deliver a little later - as since tge recipient had Covid he was lying in longer.  No he didn't mind the horologist coming inside! 😱😤🤐🤬