Bladon Chains - another lost site?

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  • Takethedogalong
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    edited December 2020 #92

    Have to agree with JVB on this one, lots of Travellers we have seen in last couple of years have been in Motorhomes.

    Anything under the Club umbrella needs to be inclusive. Lots of folks tour properly with their caravans, maybe not a single night so much as a MH might, but certainly 3,4,5 nights then move on. I know we did, and Nellie and a few others certainly tour all over. If individuals don’t like such arrangements, either in terms of time, or services, or no one permanently on Site then there would still be the Full Club Site, or CL options. It’s just a different model idea, at the moment outside the Club comfort box. 

  • JVB66
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    edited December 2020 #93

    The "old chestnut" of height barriers, that are getting installed in more places to deter unauthorised admittance to open space/car parks,  will be the big obstacle in any applications from any organisation or LA if there is to be nil or minimal other form  of security

  • EasyT
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    edited December 2020 #94

    Lots of folks tour properly with their caravans, maybe not a single night so much as a MH might, but certainly 3,4,5 nights then move on.

    I don't agree with their being a particular length of stay that equates to touring 'properly' TDA. My last family tour was in 1994 and was quicker in many ways (still able to vault over a 5 bar gate laughing

    In 2005 it tended to be 3 or 4 night stays.

    Around 2010 I first failed to make a clear vault over our front wall (The same height as our 5 bar gate frown )

    Now we tend to stay 5 nights or six if we have friends near a site.

    Who knows? As we age further it may become 6 or 7 nights. Still touring but at a more leisurely rate. 

  • NutsyH
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    edited December 2020 #95

    As a local resident I would suggest that Cassington is a non starter. Those fields at each side of the A40 between Eynsham and Oxford flood every year. That's why OCC have granted planning permission for hundreds of houses there, to be called some sort of "Garden Village". At least the gardens wont  need watering.

  • NutsyH
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    edited December 2020 #96

    Make sure you have plenty credit on your credit card. Even parking a car  there is eye wateringly expensive. Us locals all use the Combe gate to enter the grounds for free (public footpath), which of course blocks all the small local lanes leading to this gate.

  • peedee
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    edited December 2020 #97

    There probably aren't any objections to "travellers" staying on motorhome stopovers providing they obey the rules. Certainly I would have no objections. Height barriers only serve to discourage the tourist pound. If authorities don't want the money then by all means put up the no overnight parking signs and height barriers and the law abiding motorhome owner will simply go elsewhere where they are more welcome.

    The authorities have a choice as do the motorhome owners

    peedee

  • JVB66
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    edited December 2020 #98

    Your first sentence sort of contradicts itself wink

  • peedee
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    edited December 2020 #99

    There are always a few bad eggs to contend with even on sites.

    peedee

  • JVB66
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    edited December 2020 #100

    Many it seems who want more sites on "home turf" is to enable a weekend away from work within easy driving distance  ,as some have posted on CT before

    our "home turf site" has  been since the early 1980s FM as it is just over the hour from our storage sitecool

    The sites in Cornwall are for the 6 week hotspotssurprised

  • JVB66
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    edited December 2020 #101

    A conversation with site staff would confirm that ,and also the huge cost of moving them on and the usual clear up afterwardssurprised

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited December 2020 #102

    Don’t forget that Cornwall is home turf for some of us so no different to anywhere else in the country in that respect.

    We have local weekenders too. Probably more than you realise.

    However, I'm with Euro in that I’d rather see more sites elsewhere. It all depends on your starting point and where 'home turf' is.

  • JVB66
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    edited December 2020 #103

    I think that is what some are wanting reading some posts ,cornwall as i posted having a "proliferation" of sites is because it is a "hotspot" for  short periods as is Devon and Yorkshire (longer periods)

    Essex and Suffolk two examples  have been quite a NIMBY hotspots for touring sites

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited December 2020 #104

    Agree areas without Sites should come first, particularly round areas that have huge interest like Hadrians Wall, Central Wales.

    Don’t forget Yorkshire is very big, all the sites are clumped up in either East coast or Dales area, these are a decent two hours from home for us on edge of South Yorks. Why the Club needs two in Scarborough and another in Bridlington seems strange to me, as does the Cromer, Incleborough, Fakenham Triangle, although I know all those mentioned are popular. 

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited December 2020 #105

    You implied that Cornwall is only a 6 week hotspot, not that it has the number of sites it has due to being popular. Thus, I was pointing out it also has a fair weekend trade.

    I know that areas such as Suffolk and Essex have a dearth of sites but I’m not sure it's due to Nimbyism.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited December 2020 #106

    It raises the question of whether the sites proliferate in those areas due to their popularity or whether people are attracted there by the number of sites. Chicken and egg. 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • eurortraveller
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    edited December 2020 #107

    I don't pack my pyjamas unless I'm  going well over a hundred miles from home. I can't recall the independent sites we used in Suffolk but they were fine, and I still think some people are far too tied to Club sites and CLs. 

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited December 2020 #108

    We weekended in Cornwall for several years when we lived just across the river but it sure wasn’t on club sites. Instead, a delightful privately owned site allowed us to store the van there, arrive when we wanted, leave when we wanted and pay on the way out. All for around 50% of club site fees.

    However, Bladon Chains..... I much preferred Burford but it's a shame to see any site go.

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited December 2020 #109

    I think the gaps are just so stark nowadays because the Club have lost so many in the last thirty years. But others fill most of the gaps for us luckily. East Coast of Yorkshire has always been a caravan Mecca, lots of folks from around us have statics up there. For us it’s ok for a day trip, but we prefer somewhere else. I am tainted by childhood trips up there, great for a child, nice for a day’s history top up, but couldn’t do a week😂

  • JollyKernow
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    edited December 2020 #110

     I think the authorities made their choice a good while ago peedee and I don't think that will change anytime soon.

    Anyone who owns or works at anywhere that has provision for LV parking and has experienced "disruption" would heartily agree.

    (been there done that!!)

    JK

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited December 2020 #111

    Your time at Exeter Racecourse, perhaps?

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited December 2020 #112

    We were there😱, nightmare. Crusties up the road had a rave the same night as well. Didn’t mind the rave.........

  • JVB66
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    edited December 2020 #113

    We have several friends who have endured the same, and seen it in operation for ourselvesyell

  • peedee
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    edited December 2020 #114

    I think the authorities made their choice a good while ago peedee and I don't think that will change anytime soon

    Not all JK. Quite a few are now welcoming motorhomes and there is hope that will increase. Cantebury Aire has now been in operation some years and has not had any problems, in fact the council want to build a second in conjunction with an expanded park and ride.

    peedee

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  • DaveCyn
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    edited December 2020 #116

    You're not getting confused with the new lorry parks being set up in Kent by any chance?

  • cyberyacht
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    edited December 2020 #117

    JVB wrote".. just as a cheap"dump/fill station" that it seems posts on here want"

    I'm not sure that the majority of MH'ers do want a just "dump & fill". Occasionally, possibly but generally it's a "no frills" for a night or two at a sensible price.

  • EasyT
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    edited December 2020 #118

    I very much doubt that he is confused as I read of the possibility of extending the provisions at Canterbury P&R 'aire'

  • EasyT
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    edited December 2020 #119

    I'm not sure that the majority of MH'ers do want a just "dump & fill". Occasionally, possibly but generally it's a "no frills" for a night or two at a sensible price.

    I suspect that you are correct. I doubt that many thought that those that use sites with that facility to dump waste and fill water would require it. A number posting on here have bemoaned however the lack of such a dump and fill facility being made available.

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited December 2020 #120

    That’s what we would like. Somewhere safe to overnight, top up water, lose waste water, and if possible empty loo, but at a reasonable price. We would pay up to £6 for such, up to £10 with a hook up. Nothing fancy, just a weatherproof pitch, reasonably spaced, a tap and a waste somewhere. Great for a transit stop, couple of nights and then gone. For longer stays, CLs are perfect.

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