2021 Travel Plans

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  • EasyT
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    edited January 2021 #272

    The site fees would be more than double to stay in the UK and even after the ferry cost still more than £300 cheaper.

    Reads like a comparison to me?

  • EasyT
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    edited January 2021 #273

    Many factors not just minimum wage

  • brue
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    edited January 2021 #274

    But you picked one the most expensive sites on the southern network so it's not a like for like comparison is it? But I think we've been here before and the thread is about 2021 plans for overseas. wink

  • MikeyA
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    edited January 2021 #275

    Maybe we should have a thread listing the reasons why some would prefer to spend  a 6 weeks tour in May/June over there  and why others would prefer to spend the time here. 

  • SteveL
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    edited January 2021 #276

    The cost differential also depends on what crossing you use. We like St Malo, good cabins and a meal in the restaurant. So even with the cheaper sites, we definitely spend more.😀

  • EasyT
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    edited January 2021 #277

    How long is a piece of string Steve. If you go abroad for a week I suspect that mainland Europe will be more expensive and that the longer you stay the cheaper it becomes on a nightly cost comparison.

  • brue
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    edited January 2021 #278

    I've just been hearing about the slow progress of vaccinations in France, BILs family are over there. One very aged cousin in Brittany (90+) has just been vaccinated, half an hour pre-vac interview and check over with local doctor followed by over an hours drive to vaccination centre, reams of paperwork! The french bureaucratic system is not going to speed up just yet to match uk travel plans...wink

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  • Wherenext
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    edited January 2021 #280

    Brother and SiL live in Brittany. Both Shielders. He repeats exactly what you've said Brue. Macron getting a lot of stick.

  • EasyT
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    edited January 2021 #281

    To make that observation does seem to require some comparison David. Indeed the longer you spread the initial costs over the cheaper it is. 

    A bit like buying a new caravan and using it for 3 weeks rather than three months.

  • Rufs
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    edited January 2021 #282

    Spain are pretty much the same and it is going to get worse because the Oxford company are going to reduce the EU order for vaccines by 60 pct and as yet it has not been approved, but what i think is more worrying is the pct of population who are refusing to have the vaccination, 59 pct in France and i think 52 pct in Spain. The Spanish authorities have been taking to court people in care homes who have been refusing to have the vaccine and getting a court order forcing them to have it undecided

  • Rufs
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    edited January 2021 #283

    "A bit like buying a new caravan and using it for 3 weeks rather than three months."

    glad mine is a 2008 model and has probably depreciated as low as it is going to go, but it is still a cost, e.g. insurance, servicing and right now it needs 2 new tyres, which i will get once we have a clearer picture as to when we will be able to travel.

  • EasyT
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    edited January 2021 #284

    Percentage of population vacinated:

    UK 9.5

    Spain 2.5

    Portugal 2.3

    Italy 2.2

     Germany 2

    Croatia 1.6

    France 1.5

    Netherlands 0.45

  • allanandjean
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    edited January 2021 #285

    If you take the trouble to read my post again you may realise that I was talking about a comparison between Polmanter, in Cornwall, and sites overseas and not with club sites.

    I made the comparison as I consider my options for 2021-as the song says "should I stay or should I go".

  • brue
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    edited January 2021 #286

    "having seen the club's prices.... I decided to do a comparison" was the bit I picked up A&J but it doesn't matter. I possibly could get a very cheap holiday in France staying on "free" aires but the fact is I'm not going and it looks much the same for others at the moment. frown

  • allanandjean
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    edited January 2021 #287

    Hi Steve, I try not to tell people what to do but rather make suggestions and say what I do.

    For my comparison, done for no reason other than trying to give an informed reply on another forum, I looked at two options-a site I have stayed at many times, Polmanter, versus going over there and using ACSI sites at the top price band.

    I would travel from Plymouth, its only 32 miles away, and be away for app 4 weeks.

    Some sites are fantastic value with ACSI, but that's not the reason we choose them, and, for example, our favourite Italian site is between €38-42 at the time we are on holiday.

    One of our intended sites is €36 a night, we will pay €20 but except for our fave site on Garda, we have spent more time at Polmanter than any other so feel, for me, its a reasonable comparison.

    Oh, and if you will choose the most expensive BF crossing what do you expect?!!!

  • allanandjean
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    edited January 2021 #288

    Hi Brue, You said that I picked an expensive site and then mention getting a cheap holiday by staying on aires??

    As you say, at the moment none of us are going, but if I had to stay on aires to get a 'cheap holiday' that would be that and Polmanter would be getting my business!

  • ADP1963
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    edited January 2021 #289

    Nice one Rocky 2.............you have explained your reason of metaphor's and your love of them extremely well.However it is as much value as a chocolate kettle.

  • Rufs
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    edited January 2021 #290

    would not agree or disagree, but it is what it is and if it means we do not become another Devon or Cornwall hotspot that is ok for me cool  

  • brue
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    edited January 2021 #291

    I'm not suggesting I'd be staying on aires either just saying that's one way to get a cheap holiday in France. Although we have friends that do just that and they like doing it. 

    We had hoped to rent a cottage in France last year but that went on the back burner. 

    Back home. Having lived in West Penwith I'd probably give St Ives a swerve, especially this year if the " camping cork goes pop out of the bottle." wink

  • allanandjean
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    edited January 2021 #292

    "Back home. Having lived in West Penwith I'd probably give St Ives a swerve, especially this year if the " camping cork goes pop out of the bottle." wink"

    And especially if you intend to holiday in June, as we are hoping to!!

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited January 2021 #293

    I agree I’ve always been of the win some lose track mindset when it comes to travel in 2021🤷🏻‍♂️

  • moulesy
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    edited January 2021 #294

    There's an intriguing  (?) dilemma on the horizon for anyone planning to travel overseas by any means in the near future - if, as is reported,  the government is insisting on compulsory hotel quarantine on return to the UK (paid for by holiday makers), strictly enforced by security teams,  how many would still be willing to go?

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-britain-travel-idUSKBN29S09U

    I pose the question as it would definitely be a deal breaker for us - all this time in the same house has been, shall we say, trying - the thought of 10 days cooped up in a hotel room doesn't bear thinking about! frown

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  • allanandjean
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    edited January 2021 #297

    hi, Will that be the same security teams that enforce the wearing of face coverings?

    The BBC, in mentioning the current controls said;

    While those travelling into the UK are asked to abide by the 10-day isolation and told they can be subject to checks, London mayor Sadiq Khan is among those who have called for the UK to adopt the use of enforced quarantine in hotel rooms.

    So it may be its Khan who is thinks this a good idea, so good luck with that one then as I get the impression that if Khan likes it then its unlikely to go down well with HMG.

    The same report said that passengers arriving at Heathrow last week were complaining of 'poor social distancing'.

    That will be them then.

  • moulesy
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    edited January 2021 #298

    It did occur to me that it was a backhanded  (better not use the word cowardly wink) way of discouraging folk from going - anything to avoid the risk of unpopularity due to having to make a tough decisions to ban travel! frown  

    BBC reported that there had been some initial discussions with a couple of hotel chains already - make of that what you will!

    Regarding present checking arrangements, I did read a report, can't just remember where, that only 3% of entries to the country requiring to quarantine were being checked up on. surprised

  • EasyT
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    edited January 2021 #299

    The type of thing that I find annoying is the report of 300 people partying in a building under a railway arc (BBC) I reckon there are around 30 police, at least, involved in the operation; possibly for a couple of hours and fines of 1,500 levied. Doesn't even cover police time. 

  • ish05
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    two of my vouchers were about to expire so I used the smallest amount possible from each voucher to go towards Tesco delivery saver. The unused points are given as change, This effectively extends the expiry date of the voucher  ( minus the amount you’ve used ). 

  • moulesy
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    edited January 2021 #301

    Agreed - and that wedding in London - 400 (later rounded down to 150!) attending and 5 (yes, 5) fixed £200 penalty fines imposed on attendees (I think the organisers were liable for a higher fine) - beggars belief! yell