A ban on new petrol, diesel and hybrid cars
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Partly. It's not all vehicles, it's not planes or ships either, it's cars! Yes, secondhand cas will still be on sale after the date, well, that's the indication at the moment! Who know? There is even a suggestion that the value of second hand cars will increase.
Still only two posters has made an attempt at speculating how this situation will effect our wonderful pastime and how the club we are members of should plan for this event. Any other views would be welcomed.
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Saving the planet my eye😤😤. 35yrs?, geez they can’t plan over a full week. They’re all clamouring to be seen as ‘saviours of the world’, yet if it proves too costly or something even more shiny appears that’ll then be the ‘new way forward’. It’s sickening tbh. Playing fast & loose with the lives of the people who invariably pay every time. . .US☹️
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Looking out over the river I can see our gas powered power station working full belt. I can also see our offshore wind farm isn’t generating, due to no wind. Yesterday the wind farm wasn’t generating due to storm force winds. If we are going to put 10 million Ev’s on our roads in 10 years I think we need some joined up thinking
ps there are on average 8 new wind turbines being installed each week, the component parts being shipped from our harbour
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‘We’ need to be the whole world. Renewables need to be every option used. As has been mentioned-wave power, we can guarantee the tides, it’s a given👍🏻 Yet the technology that is there is ignored. We are surrounded by tidal water🤷🏻♂️. World Govts(particularly ours) cite cost-really?, I’d say the cost not to will be way more☹️
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Siemens at Hull docks are churning out an ever growing(both size & amount) of whole wind turbines for the offshore wind farms. I see them as I drive into Hull from the coast-it is like a mini city is the Siemens site.
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Agree re the modern aircraft, but there were still 533 747's in airline service as of Jan 2020.
Your original post said you didn't understand why commercial aircraft were being so vilified. We also don't fly much, last time was 2001 and our total annual mileage of all vehicles is less than 10,000 miles. However, many folk do fly both for business and pleasure, it is so easy and relatively cheap to do. Even the cleaner aircraft don't come out well on that calculation. Yes less CO2 per passenger mile, but when compared on a holiday for holiday basis not so good. I would say that's why they are being singled out.
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The Club will need to seriously plan for EV charging points on sites and it appears that they have made a start. A 13 amp supply at the pitch is not much use so dedicated communal charging points are more likely to be introduced. Inconvenient for battery driven motorhomes to have to move off pitch but not so difficult for tow cars which can easily be moved.
Whether charging points can be installed will depend on the electrical supply at each site and may not be practical at some locations.
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BA now have a more "reliable" supply of aviation fuel (paraffin?)since the Bunsfield fire, that is brought by ship to a new terminal on the Thames then by rail to a pipeline near Heathrow, and the flow is 1 million tonnes a year,that is just one airline flying in and out of 1 airfield,and it can be "offset?"against pollution
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HMGovernment have a very poor record on energy/transport projects thus far. Often dithering and indecision over starting that as a rule of thumb is 2-3 parliaments to make a decision, by which time costs escalate in the same ratio. Hinckley Point C, Crossrail, HS2, 15MW offshore wind turbines are all live examples.
To think a headline grabbing announcement will magically improve historic performance is bonkers.
As recognised in Australia where scarce resource for infrastructure is the issue, as it is here in the U.K. in respect of the energy system. The energy system is the key, that includes the difficult subject of energy efficiency and reduction in consumption that has no mention.
For illustration, 6 years ago HMG lost a golden opportunity to leap ahead globally with inward investment of £85bn to demonstrate 15MW offshore wind turbines, of which there is one built. Currently 11MW is under test, nowhere 15 yet.
in terms of 'constant' electrical energy generation the U.K. is in a prime position to deploy tidal flow. The tide flows one way, then 180 degrees day in day out regardless of weather in plenty of places. Read up on Open Hydro to learn of the demonstrators in Nova Scotia and Brittany, that give a good insight of possible technical ability. Tidal flow is an extinctor for oil and gas, therein lies the challenge.
Heathrow was fed avgas from a pipeline from Fawley that enables Fleet services to be an airfield if required. During the tanker strikes at the turn of the century, Fleet had fuel!!
interesting times ahead for our kids, but not really something that will impact my lifetime.
As historically, there will be a technical solution. Which will governments take forward through regulation is the key. Given the waste of fossil fuel for catalytic converters instead of lean burn, I'd wager the least efficient solution will be taken.
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Oh ye of outdated info
The train runs everyday for BP to a point near Heathrow ,then piped to the airport (did i mention road tankers? or are you yet again not understanding)
ps there is a new pipeline for Esso to Heathrow and Gatwick that a planning application was issued
pps ,train paths have been reserved from Southampton as a contingency plan in case there is another major disruption of supplies as there was with the Bunsfield fire and explosion
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Here's another few ideas as to how sites could assist the meeting of these targets and reduction of emissions in general. Provide non electric pitches for those of us who already have taken the step towards cutting the orange umbilical, I now have solar panels on my van. Maybe even providing pitches which only have vehicle charging points. On the premise that every little helps this could reduce just a little that total energy consumption on site. Also, newly designed sites and those sites of the future could also take this notion into account in their design by included methods of energy production in their construction. After all, every little helps and visible examples and commitments need to be made. Maybe it is time for the consumption of electric on site to be metered and charged accordingly.
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Come on, we are better than that! Use of words like many, most, lots are a tad cringeworthy and unhelpful unless one has evidence that this is true. Not something I've noticed at all. We will never know but time with engines running may be more a car thing what with all that reversing backwards and forwards on to pitch correctly, I don't know.
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pps ,train paths have been reserved from Southampton as a contingency plan in case there is another major disruption of supplies as there was with the Bunsfield fire and explosion
just as well there has been no need this past week or so since a freight train went in the dirt at Eastleigh
taking out the BMLfortunately the old Grant Rail Kirow, now painted as Colas, was available to pick up the bits. V clever bits of kit, the Kirow
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