Cost of EHU at CLs
Hello
we are new to using CLs. To save mehaving to ring each and every site I look at, is there an average as to what EHU costs at Cls? They usually seem to say electric hook up available but do not say at what cost. Thanks
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The ehu is included in the pitch fee per night unless otherwise specified (for instance a few cls have meters on pitches).
The reason the description states "ehu available" is to distinguish them from cls which don't have ehu: off grid places.
Hope this helps.
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The cost of electricity is normally included in the site fee.
It is not lawful for an operator to charge extra for the electricity used other than by metering and entering into a secondary supplier agreement. Some get around this (like C&CC) by giving you a choice of hiring a hook up bollard but, in the case of CAMC and the majority of CLs, the site fee will include the electricity you use.
It is always worth confirming the site fee when you book as the published fees are often out of date.
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Happy CL-ing 😀
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Nothing to add to the answers above re EHU. But just to say that there are some great CLs out there - if you're new to using them and want some recommendations or advice keep posting on here. There is a wealth of experience to tap into.
Happy days ahead!
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I did see a CL advertised the other day ( and I wish I could remember which one it was) that was £10 per night or £14 per night with EHU so at least with that one you could see how much the Electricity was costing.
I bet more people who like to "Off grid" would like this arrangement.
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Wish more CL’s would do this. We did negotiate a non EHU rate with a site this summer, so it’s always worth asking.
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We have done that in the past VB. some small private sites are happy to do a variable rate as well.
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As I may have mentioned before, at our CL we have fully serviced pitches with free WiFi but meter our electric usage. Within the Pitch fee we include 10 KwH per night - which means that during the Summer months we never need to charge anyone (unless they bring an electric car or I suspect they have multiple heaters in awnings!). On the other hand, at this time of year it ensures we remain economically viable.
A case in point, I had a visitor staying for 12 days recently. They did not have an awning, but were in the van most of the day. They used 562 units across the duration of their stay, or an average of 46 per night.
As we pay 22pence (Including VAT) for every unit of electric (when you include standing charges & climate levy) this equates to £10 worth of electricity per day. As agreed - and set out clearlly in all our communications the extra cost was passed onto them and paid without complaint.
Conclusion: CLs offering unmetered EHU are probably losing money on some winter visitors when other costs are taken into account.
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When you take into account the price of electricity I find it incredible that CLs charge the same in winter as in summer, especially with some having the mentality that I have paid for it so I am going to use it.
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Ltc, really?🤔, you actually think that folk will run a heater on a warm summer night just because they’ve ‘paid’ for it?, I find that crazy & honestly hard to believe🤷🏻♂️
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No, what I meant was that in winter some people will go out for the day and leave the heating on full pelt so it is warm enough when they come in five or six hours later, or perhaps have the heating on all night with a light weight duvet.
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We have on our CL a 2 tier site fees , summer and winter being £2 dearer , but as electrical usage goes up each year will need to revise these soon. and no people do not leave heaters on in summer but they do air conditioning and that eats the units up.
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Thanks, that makes sense, good logic👍🏻😊
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and really what is wrong with that? Would you turn off the heating in winter in a Hotel?
I really go on holiday with my caravan to enjoy myself, no difference to any hotel or B&B. Staying in my caravan is not an endurance test, I expect to be kept warm. It is up to the site owner to work out a rate which makes the site profitable, not for me to help him/her with that?
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yes good idea.
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Agreed. The two tier pricing does away with the cost and hassle of metering and the secondary supplier agreement rigmarole as well.
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We certainly fit that trend to some extent. When we are away in December we would normally go out for around 5 hours and would draw some blinds and roof light vents and partly draw blinds on sunny side. Usually we would turn heating down to 16 or 17C but certainly not off. At night when readying for bed we drop heating own to 16C
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Really? I assume you don't, nor does LTC and we certainly never did. Why are some folk so quick to assume the worst of others?
I've never understood this willingness to think the worst of others on this forum, whether it be about electric use, dog walking etc etc.
We have used many, many CLs over the past few years - everyone we've met has, I would say, shared our enthusiasm for them and our way of using whatever is available - why would we or you assume that others wouldn't?
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We always turn heating/lights/boiler off when we are out both summer and winter. Again all is switched off at bedtimes then heating comes on about 6.30am. We treat sites much like we treat our own home as far as energy conservation is concerned
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Really? I assume you don't, nor does LTC and we certainly never did. Why are some folk so quick to assume the worst of others?
You missed my recent post. Why would I think bad of anyone that does as I do?
When we are away in December we would normally go out for around 5 hours and would draw some blinds and roof light vents blinds and partly draw blinds on sunny side. Usually we would turn heating down to 16 or 17C but certainly not off. At night when readying for bed we drop heating own to 16C
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No, I didn't miss it, Alan - the comment LTC made was that some folk would be out all day and leave the heating on "full pelt" and again "all night" - that, to me is a big assumption. Don't forget it's CL users we're discussing here.
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I assume that they leave heating on to reach a desired setting, as I do, and to maintain a desired setting overnight.
I assume that you are referring to 'full pelt'. Not sure that applies so much to a thermostatic system. At home we don't run heating overnight. It actually comes on for 20 mins first thing and 20 mins at around 5.30pm. If it is exceptionally cold as the previous full days we will turn heating on and it might run until 5.50pm. However if it was a very cold day and I was going to be out in the cold for a few hours the heating would go on before leaving home. If my arthritic back is out in the cold it needs it on return.
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Alan, it wasn't me referring to "full pelt" - it was in LTC's post which I originally questioned!
Having never owned a van new enough to have a thermostatic system I am unable to comment on that.
I still think it's a shame that some folk are so quick to make assumptions about what others do - especially regular CL users who I'd have thought were, in the main, experienced vanners/MHers and unlikely to be profligate but I'm quite content to have given my thoughts and leave it at that, lest the thread deteriorates the way others have done recently.
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I doubt that our conversation would deteriorate M. All my caravans in the last 15 years have had thermostatic control M and so I thought that most would have these days. The ones that I consider to be profligate are those that leave their roof lights all open wide on the roof, not just whilst cooking, when it is a couple of degrees C outside as I presume that their heating is working overtime. Yes I do see that. I think that most are like me and want to return to a reasonably warm caravan in winter and not to be cold at night whilst abed.
At present our caravan is on the drive an heated to achieve 16C. Normally when not fully drained (back from a service so who knows and going away in a week) it is set to 5c. Last night I turned heating up as today we were repacking the caravan today and my spine does not do cold and easier to pack in a cardigan than a heavy coat. I have left it up following a 5 year refill of the Alde system to check if that needs topping up before packing wardrobes.
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When using CL's we do tend to be a bit more careful when leaving the van for the day, in winter we turn the heating down to around 14c just enough to keep the chill off. The same at night time 14c then up to 18c upon rising in the morning.
There are those that do not bother so I agree with LTC in that. I know that some don't because they have told me. On one CL we had a neighbour come to us saying they had no power did we. As we were on a different bollard we did. They had blown the fuse and they kept blowing the fuse, why, because they were using far too much all at the same time. The owner was at their wits end with them.
There are a few CL's in Scotland that charge a bit more for winter months, I personally don't have a problem with that as I think its right to do so. However I would hate to think that some would take the attitude of I've paid extra so ................ etc. etc.
We don't heat the van when its sat at home.
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