OS map Grid Refs gone!!
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Have just received from HO the list I requested of all CC sites & CLs with their OS Map References, and a very nice letter from Kate Walters, Site Directory & Handbook Editor, who has said that she will "monitor the amount of members who are unhappy with the removal of the OS map references and if it does inconvenience a significant number of members will certainly look to add them back in the next addition of the SD".
So you all know what to do...let her know of the inconvenience to you...and hopefully she will put them back in the future.
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Yes ours arrived yesterday and I emailed Kate a thankyou. I am now ready to plot this years CLs
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This could get a bit protracted.
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One of those would make the CAMC satnav look cheap.
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Just been looking at the OS ref for one site from the list, and they've got it wrong. Wonder how many others are too?
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Presumably they are wrong on the web site as well. Unfortunately inaccuracies seem to be fairly common. Number / type of pitches, site maps etc. I would not mind so much, we all make mistakes, but they often remain uncorrected, even when pointed out.
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I have just put the document info provided by Metheven into a Google spreadsheet so any of you can view and sort by Grid Ref, by CL name or Postcode. For those who wish to use OS maps it may make it easier to find something you are looking for!
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I’m really upset about this. The NGR not only helps when driving to the site but also enables planning before the visit to see what footpaths and other features are nearby. I use these details in choosing which site to stay on.
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I don't recall co-ordinates being included in the handbook before the introduction of Sat Navs? We certainly just used to follow the directions. I gather Metheven has produced a list, another way of getting them is go to the Clubs POIs and download the CSV files (Garmin) and just open the file using Excel. All the information you need is there and you can sort and search the data.
I don't see any need for it in the handbook which I like some others hardly ever use.
peedee
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If we arrive at a CL and find it unacceptable for certain reasons (which we have), we rely on the O/S map of the area to locate a suitable CL.
The handbook is then used to locate a nearby CL and then identified on the O/S map.
It will tell me if there are power lines, main roads or train lines etc in the vicinity.
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I have also written to the club twice on the issue of Grid Refs missing from the 2019 handbook and have had no reply. This is very poor service.
In places such as mid Wales there is often very poor internet connectivity therefore finding the Grid refs on line is almost impossible. We also like to see where we are staying by using an OS map. Please reinstate the Grid Refs next year.
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As caravanners as well as Shropshire CL Owners, we appreciate your frustration and include our Grid Reference on our CL website and on the pre-arrival emails that we send to guests - https://www.birchhill.co.uk/directions/
Ordnance Survey 1:50,000 map sheet 126,
Grid Reference SJ 397365Ian Kelly
01691 622951
Holiday@BirchHill.co.ukBirch Hill, The Cross, Ellesmere, Shropshire, SY12 0LP
www.BirchHill.co.uk
CL Number 1280 in the 2019/20 CAMC Sites DirectoryBirch Hill Farm – relax at our award-winning hideaway in the beautiful lake-lands of Shropshire - exclusively for members of the Caravan and Motorhome Club
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Wish more would do that Ian.
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I'm a dyed in the wool Lat/Long man. My sailing background, I suppose.
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No problem CY - Lat / Long is also on our website and on the pre-arrival emails which we send to our CL guests:
Satellite Navigation
For programming Satellite Navigation (SatNav), the Birch Hill Farm lane entrance is at:
Postcode SY12 0LP or use the following GPS map co-ordinates:
Grid Reference SJ 397365
Latitude 52:55:20N (52.9222), Longitude 2:54:09W (-2.9025)Ian Kelly
01691 622951
Holiday@BirchHill.co.ukBirch Hill, The Cross, Ellesmere, Shropshire, SY12 0LP
www.BirchHill.co.uk
CL Number 1280 in the 2019/20 CAMC Sites DirectoryBirch Hill Farm – relax at our award-winning hideaway in the beautiful lake-lands of Shropshire - exclusively for members of the Caravan and Motorhome Club
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We're the same as Ian, all the information on our 'contact/directions' page of website and sent out in our pre-arrival emails.
Nicola
www.skybarnfarm.co.uk
Telephone: 01522 681218
Email: enquiries@skybarnfarm.co.uk
Site 920, page 392 of the 2019/2020 Sites Directory
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As Ian and Nicola we also provide Lat / Long on our website. We did not however send it out in our pre-arrival emails, which we will now do also, thanks for the tip!
John
NEWTON GROVE, Barford Road, South Newington, BANBURY, OX15 4LN
W: https://newtongrove.co.uk
E: newton.grove@btconnect.com
P: 07722 918265
Caravan & Motorhome Club Site Directory 2018/19 no: 1232 (p431)
Map coordinates of pitching area are: (lon.) 51.99806, (lat.) -1.403697 SP 441041 2329840 -
Good for you and Nicola, Johnny. Wonder how many other Cl owners will read this and and do likewise?
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Reboot!!
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When it comes to club sites and indeed CLs, I tend to look them up on google maps then switch to 'satellite view' in order to see the lie of the land locally and, indeed, to within say 3 miles or so.
I understand that some might want to relate a grid. ref.to an OS map, to pinpoint the site precisely, but as most complainants have done so on their laptop/phone etc.,( on this discussion) then surely they ought to be capable of doing so by the above mentioned method?
For me OS grid references are a bit of an anachronism, even though I was brought up on them!
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But having an OS map gives so much more information about what is in the area than you can get online (unless you have OS Maps online and downloaded the one for the area you are visiting). Contour lines showing how hilly a place is is just one good example. You can't see hills on Google Earth.
In many rural places reception on mobile devices is still pretty much non-existent. We've found many, many out of the way places that we would never have found otherwise thanks to OS maps.
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Personally like redface I use Google to locate sites, usually using the postcode and description, along with the satellite view / street view.
However, I do wonder what research they conducted re the removal of OS references. I would think, even with sat navs, more will use the post code than the Lat / Long, which is still shown. Even with a remote Scottish CL we have used, the post code will get you there.
The OS references were there, they took up little room and their maintenance was just calculating ones for new CL's / sites. Hardly an onerous task. I would suggest it was more of a tidying up exercise than space. Perhaps they though we would be confused by the array of numbers.😂
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You can't see hills on Google Earth.
Although fairly limited and only particularly effective in hilly areas, there is a terrain function in Google maps. If you get the zoom level right there are even some contours.
An OS map however is 100% better at showing relief.😀
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We have been told that the OS grid refs are on the web pages of each CL. They are, but I've just looked at a new one and and it's oh so wrong. Instead of the site being near Welshpool the grid reference is for a point east of Chuch Stretton, not a lot of use if looking for the site!!
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Had a go at using OS locations no problem, we used to use them when we were letter boxing around Dartmoor, also tried using them on our first trip with the caravan, no SAT NAV back then.
In 2005 we set off to Whitwell Farm CL near Seaton (very nice CL) and on route to this CL when using the Clubs OS and or post code details we drove right past the CL sign (more or less over grown with grass), no real issue with the grass as hedges tend to grow.
Reading this post I had a quick look at the Club details relating to this CL again and still the details whether OS, GPS or post code does not result any great accuracy, almost but when your in a lane with the caravan almost is not ideal.
Can the Club arrange during CL site inspections for the actual GPS CL site location (entrance) details to be updated ? easy thing to do given that most people have smart phones.
Or allow Club members to update the GPS details on to the Clubs web page.
OS not completely bad but for me GPS is much better in terms of accuracy.
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And !! the actual GPS location for Whitwell Farm CL
is 50.732653, -3.097348 place this into Google maps, the published OS SY227932 = GPS 50.732694,-3.095453 place this into Google maps also, these locations are about a mile apart !!
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