Is the CAMC moving into the 21st Century?

Swifty2018
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edited April 2018 in UK Campsites & Touring #1

I see the CAMC is advertising for a cleaner at one of their sites to clean the glamping accommodation and toilets. If successful is this a blueprint for the future?

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  • Tinwheeler
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    edited April 2018 #2

    It makes sense where additional cleaning is needed for glamping tents and pods. The wardens can’t do it all.

    Blueprint? That’s rather an odd way of raising a question.

     

  • JVB66
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    edited April 2018 #3

     There are already contract cleaners on some sites, followed by the site staff to "check"undecided

  • Swifty2018
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    edited April 2018 #4

    Tinners,   The cleaner is not only cleaning but the toilets as well so this would be a break with tradition. I could have use the word "new plan" but I thought you would understand the phrase blueprint just as well.     smile 

  • SteveL
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    edited April 2018 #5

    Can't see it being rolled out universally, unless all sites get Glamping pods. However, with up to 10 pods, possibly all needing cleaning / bedding changing on the same day, it would be difficult for the wardens to do it. It would make sense for it also to include the toilet facilities, otherwise at slack times with only a few pods to service they might not be fully employed.

  • Cornersteady
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    edited April 2018 #6

    I think you maybe making too much of a pie about this Swifty.

  • JVB66
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    edited April 2018 #7

    Unless it has changed ,the site staff are/were responsible for the laundry/cleaning of some of the sites that have holiday cottages/flats on the site 

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited April 2018 #8

    The cleaner will be employed to clean. Obviously he/she will not have a contract specifying they will only clean glamping accommodation as they might be needed to clesn the toilets, the office, the information room.....  The bottom line is that extra facilities mean extra cleaning work. It's common sense really and anyone who has ever drafted a job advert will understand the wording which you are reading in the way it suits you in an effort to imply ways may be changing. Jumping the gun there, methinks.laughing

    Blueprint - see JV's comment and we know he knows. wink

  • JVB66
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    edited April 2018 #9

    Have you sent in your CVwink

  • Kennine
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    edited April 2018 #10

    The CMC is definitely moving into the 21st century by providing Static accommodation for hire to encourage families and those who don't own a Caravan for whatever reason. 

    Employing extra staff to clean those units seems a bit excessive. By good time management, the existing on-site staff should be capable of completing that task.

  • Philnffc
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    edited April 2018 #12

    By time management you mean the poor old Warden working 60 hours a week instead of 50 hours as is the norm now for 40 hours pay, the club have been using outside contract cleaners for years now on some sites I can think of three that have used these people most with usually a negative outcome IMHO (not as good as the Warden).

    Phil

  • JVB66
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    edited April 2018 #14

     The sort of comments that come from non members as is Kennine,are just posted to try as usual to make without any success as usual ,discord on most posts without any real idea of what they are trying to say as they have no real  up to date knowledge of the subjectsurprised

  • young thomas
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    edited April 2018 #15

    Phil I agree wholeheartedly, which is, of course, why cleaners should clean, gardeners should 'garden', handymen/technical staff should deal with the infrastructure maintenance, office reception staff should 'receive/officiate' and wardens should 'warden'.....without distractionsmile

    while this model works very well in 'other places' it's not something the club seems interested in.....so it's 60 hours (and more) for the foreseeable, I'm afraid.....undecided

     

  • ATDel
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    edited April 2018 #16

    Kennine, please let us all know what us camc staff who work on site actually do, it would be most enlightening. 

    Do you actually stay on club sites seeing as you are a non member?

    if not how do you know what we do day to day?

    Good dat to you

    Kevin

     

  • JVB66
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    edited April 2018 #17

    Sorry but you wardens are playing the game K has put the bait out for

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited April 2018 #18

    I was thinking the same.

    Sorry, Gents, but you fell for that hook, line and sinker.

    Never fear, us members know your worth. 👍🏻

  • young thomas
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    edited April 2018 #19

    ...yes, getting 60 hrs work for 40 hrs pay seems well worth itundecided

    I thought the Feudal System died out centuries ago....frown

  • trellis
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    edited April 2018 #20

    Kennine , Nothing on CBBC you fancy watching tonight then ? 😁😁.

  • Kennine
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    edited April 2018 #21
    I think over 30 years of CC/CMC membership until last year gives a wonderful insight into the CMC sites management from a customer's point of view. After all who are the most important people on a campsite ? The customers of course. --------The on-site staff are there to ensure that their customers receive the best service possible. Which includes ensuring that the site and all the infostructure is kept clean and tidy.
    Anybody disagree with that



  • ATDel
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    edited April 2018 #22

    I certainly don’t work for 60 hours nor do my wardens, we work for what we get paid!!

  • JVB66
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    edited April 2018 #23

    Amongst the miriade of other jobs that the members of both clubs manage to give the site staff to do, because of their attitude towards their in some members and non members attitudes would be servants undecided 

  • JVB66
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    edited April 2018 #24

    Then you should know better than to post what you did earlier about site staff,and their "time management"frown

  • Cornersteady
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    edited April 2018 #26

    I'm just wondering if you had so many happy years on club sites (must have been happy or why keep joining) that you took a secondment from both CT and club sites? 

  • JollyKernow
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    edited April 2018 #27

    Good way of dragging the lurkers out K. Funny how it seems that the wind up non members on here provoke that sort of reaction, others try but the OP and K beat them hands downyell

    I'll disagree with you K. I'll not elaborate as I don't need to.wink

    JK

     

     

  • Oneputt
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    edited April 2018 #28

    The answer to the question is YES

  • ATDel
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    edited April 2018 #29

    Your silence is deafening Kennine, or have you become shy all of a sudden.

    Im still waiting with bated breath your knowledge of what we do on a day to day basis for you to conclude we would have plenty of time to do other jobs on top of what we already do if we just time managed better.

    Or perhaps you don’t know!! 

    Kev

  • EasyT
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    edited April 2018 #30

    I've seen you guys standing round nattering to members! wink

  • Navigateur
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    edited April 2018 #31

    As I read through this thread I think there is an error in the title.  It should read "20th Century".