Family pitch rules not encouraging future members.
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Why would the t&c say for recreational only, when as you say you can only be recreational not residential. I am confused.
The Club Site Rules; ‘Pitch’ means a demarcated area of a Site, for location of an Outfit for recreational purposes as permitted by the Club Terms and Conditions; ‘Seasonal Pitch’ means a pitch made available by the Club to Members for hire for a specified period, subject to the Club’s Terms and Conditions;
What other purpose could you have.?
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I would.
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not sure what you mean but residence is your permanent address, recreational is temporary, hence the 21 day rule
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You cannot book two 21 nights back to back,you need a two day gap. I'm able to overide the 21 nights in emergency cases.
A seasonal outfit can stay on site, not necessarily on the same pitch for the whole of the seasonal booking. A tourer if being shared can only stay on site for a maximum 28 days.
Cheers
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So a member books a pitch for the 21 days maximum and moves the caravan off-site at the end, just to turn around and arrive for the booking that commences that same day that was made by his/her partner.
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That's interesting JK. How would a booking for 3 weeks work for one couple, then a booking for three weeks work for another couple, but using the same van? I would assume that the first couple could whisk the van round the site, out the gates, and back in again to another pitch, unhook and leave for the second couple? It's the humans that have to leave, not the caravan I assume? No overlap of course. Would this be possible? All booking done online by the respective members of course.
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Wow.. passionate lot aren't you!
I expected the usual read the rules comments but that was my whole point! They need to be changed to accommodate younger families who want to try caravan holidays like they went as kids. The older gentry will always stick up for the establishment because, who wants noisy young families having fun next to them..right!!
T&C were not read properly by my dad I admit, but I didn't give any thought to paying pitch fees again as a fully paid up CC member myself, I assumed these were all covered.
The parks we've visited were mostly at least 50% filled with over 60's so that is leaving a huge void in ten years. My main point again, if you want to survive and encourage new members then you need to review the rules about family sharing, it's the way people will want to do it nowadays!
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No DNA test, just doing what I'm paid for. I like to talk to people, one of the reasons I do the job. Sometimes you get a feeling when somethings not right. As you know you present your card on arrival, that may be the time I exercise my right to ask for alternative identification, or it may be at some point during the stay.
Why do some folk think it acceptable not to pay their way? You don't need to be told about any extra charges when it's plainly written on the paperwork you put your autograph on.
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So what response did you get when you contacted the club about this MnP?
It's the club that makes the rules rather than users of this forum and it's rare for anything posted here to reach the ears of those who can change things.
Good luck with your quest.
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You may like to address your points to the relevant department at head office. Put in the title of your email "fao Site Ops"
A forum is good for getting things off your chest, but you won't get a reply from the club.
Some good ideas in my opinion.
Cheers
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My son has the same initials. And the last few sites I've been on have only seen site staff on arrival or whizzing by on a tractor
Never said it was unacceptable to not pay your way, just unacceptable for a club to get paid its pitch fees twice.
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"A forum is good for getting things off your chest, but you won't get a reply from the club"
A little off topic, but your comment is where the club falls down. Two other car forums I am on are monitored by the club and feedback given to the subject on many occasions. In some cases changes have been made as a result.
The club is a business, the forum some of its customer base, A valuable source of customer satisfaction, or Not? that is not being exploited.
FWIW I agree with the OP.
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thanks for the reply
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I didn't give any thought to paying pitch fees again as a fully paid up CC member myself, I assumed these were all covered.
If I understand correctly the £1000 paid is not solely for the pitch but is in fact for the appropriate members to be present on the site and to use the facilities. That may be why your assumption is awry.
At Strathclyde for example £1,000(approx) would cover usage of the site by the members for a period of approximately 20 weeks with a 2 day break every 3 weeks.
The parks we've visited were mostly at least 50% filled with over 60's so that is leaving a huge void in ten years.
They will be replaced if caravaning retains its overall popularity.
I expected the usual read the rules comments but that was my whole point! They need to be changed to accommodate younger families who want to try caravan holidays like they went as kids.
What rules would you like to change? Permit all and sundry friends and families to use a seasonal pitch for nowt when the members who did not book it are not present?
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Why some would wish to pay £30 to stay on CC site is irrelevant David.
There is NO double charging. The money paid as a seasonal fee may have a small amount towards pitch fees but is also there to cover the notional use by the members and children that have paid the fees. It is not solely for the pitch and I suspect that is a very small part.
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I didn’t know the warden could request alternative identification, and personally I be offended to be asked. Seeing as a nation we don’t have to carry any form of ID, even when requested by the police, what would happen if I had no other ID. Would I be refused entry, asked to drive home and get it ?
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But you dont like ANY change though do you! Your standard answer is invariably that you always managed with things as they are/were.
I disagree. The CC is getting two bites of the cherry re pitch / seasonal fee.
Nobody but you is suggesting that 'all & sundry' would take advantage.
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Characterising those who may be explaining the clubs current rules to a new member as "those for whom the club can do no wrong" is a rather disrespectful, though hardly surprising response David, given your many critical postings concerning the club. A bit like someone accusing the club's (sometimes justified) critics of a constant knee jerk criticism of everything the club offers.
Neither attitude makes a positive or helpful contribution to the discussion I my opinion.
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When a post on another thread worked out that a seasonal pitch on a site on the south coast, used to its max nights, would about cover the ehu used then I can see every justification in charging other than the named member the standard pitch fee
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Whether I like change or not is an irrelevance. In fact it would likely depend on the change.
I disagree that the CC is getting 'two bites'. The fee for a seasonal is based on the notional amount of use an individual/couple along with children might make of a site.
If the use by other than those were permitted then I would class any others that made use as 'all and sundry' in order to include extended family (siblings with their children, cousins, aunt and uncles, friends neighbours etc).
In the case of Strathclyde site by following the rules a couple could have 104 nights on site between Start of May and end of August at around £10 a night. Not many would make full use though.
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Why would you be offended to discover a Warden was looking after the best interests of the club and its members? I wouldn’t mind in the least.
No form of ID - it would surely be a rare event to find someone not carrying a driving licence or some form of bank card showing the holder's name name.
Well done, that Warden, I say.
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You would be entitled to be offended just as the warden is entitled to ask.
As for other ID I suppose that you really don't carry any? I have a wallet full of various cards with my name on and a mobile phone and car registered to my membership.
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