The same Club, just better...
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I have twice been asked to take grass and leave hardstandings for motorhomes. I suppose when one travels effects how common Husky. As I posted, possibly on another thread, one site I looked at the grass and asked for a refund as I was not stopping even if I lost a nights pitch fee (I was told to take hard). On the other occasion the warden said that he would be grateful if I took the grass I took hard as I did not require gratitude. If I had been told to take grass I would probably have booked in for one night on that occasion and moved on to a commercial site the next day.
That comment you refer to might have been justified Husky .............. I still don't hate motorhomers but they are not having my hard
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I suppose it's to do with some motorhomes being nearly twice the weight of some caravans, and if it's soft ground there's a good chance they will churn up the grass trying to get off . . . Or on,
But if asked to move I would expect Recompense.
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The Pennant logo was distinct and easily recognisable especially when searching for a CL. The new logo is similar to many farm stock breeders associations and agricultural buildings Why not keep our our identity (Pennant) and simply insert 'M' between C&C (CMC) ?
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Two points
1 Hire different consultants in first place then
2. Re Savills fee. I was told by Mr Chamberlian in a public meeting that Savills had acted completely without authorisation. If that was true it would be impossible believe that the club paid any money to Savills.
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I don't know whether marketing consultants have been used. There is possibly an internal dept capable of coping with rebranding.
Savills may not have received a fee for the local plan representations but they carry out a substantial amount of work on behalf of the club so must have ongoing instructions. I can't find reference to consultant fees in relation to planning in the documents that have been published. There were a lot of things said at the time by various people from the club but knowing how these things work I did not find them particularly convincing
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Even The Caravan Club must be aware that vynil stickers will damage plastic windows (as fitted to all caravans and most motorcaravans) Why do "they" think that they need to be supplied?Oh dear,I seem to be questioning the wisdom of "the management"
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They're here, David. You admit you've not read all the thread so that's why you've missed them and are consequently talking about things outside the scope of your knowledge but I guess we're used to that on here.
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I usually scroll back on a night through the days posts and it's surprising (perhaps it shouldn't be) to see how much censorship is going on, which appears to be very heavy handed, similar to the refusal to respond to constructive criticism on Facebook, only cooing round nice posts. Sad really that management really don't give a monkeys about the thoughts and genuine concerns of members
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Doesn't bother me the club changing it's name, well apart from the expense and sites missing out on money, but the logo colours are awful. The magazine arrived the other day and the logo was invisible against the background of the plastic cover.
Don't think of motorhomers as being different and not being part of the club.
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TW - do me a favour please, try and make sure that anyone reading your post about M/H haters is aware that they are a minority. I like to think that the majority of members are not prejudiced one way or the other, as I hope that a few of us have shown to you. Thanks.
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Having owned a Caravan on and off for 30 years we last bought our last Caravan 5 Years ago. As we are not just past 60 our thoughts were if hubby could not pull the Caravan then we were stuck . Having been to France the last 4 years and yes there are Caravans there we did find that it was easier for MH as the Aires were there for all to enjoy sometimes free and in some lovely areas. So now we are Owners of a MH. There are some good and bad points with the MH. But we decided to take that risk..As for the Caravan Club name Change members own Caravans and MH, so why not, I am all for change we have to move with the times . Some will not like it some will love it and some don't care . I say enjoy what the Club has to Offer.
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I think everyone knows that, WN, but to have the existence of the few dissenters doubted calls for a response.
Having never met the anti-MHers before, I know well that most people display the same open minded friendliness as yourself.
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As owners of Greetham Retreat CL in Lincolnshire we do not really care what the club desided to call itself.
The isssue for us is the timing of the name change at the end of February and lack of warning or consultation!!!!! We have purchesed uniforms, stationary and advertising leaflets all promoting our CL site and all displaying the old CC logo and club name.
Why on earth didn't the CC tell us in advance so that we didin't waste all our money this year on stuff that is immediatley out of date. This has cost us several hundreds of pounds which is now wasted and is a cost that we will never recoupe. Thanks for your consideration!!!!! Not!!!!
Rob Folwell owner
Greetham Retreat CL in Lincolnshire
Website @ www.greethamretreat.co.uk/touring-caravans
Email: holidays@greethamretreat.co.uk
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I agree Rob it was a pretty poor show by the CC not to simply warn that there would be a change to the name or logo and that details were not confirmed. After all this little cunning stunt was not thought up a pre Christmas board lunch ............... although that is hard to believe sometimes when there are things that have not been thought out.
I would use your logo'd stuff as you will be dealing with CC members who for the most part will be happy to see the old logo. As for motorvanner I cannot see that they felt too badly about not being named individually, I certainly didn't when I had a trailer tent.
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Speaking as a retired technical director of an adhesive company let me correct this misconception in the context of the new 'stickers'. It is true that the solvent in some adhesives used on self adhesive labels can affect acrylic but in this instance the new vinyl 'stickers', like the Caravan Club predecessors, have no adhesive. They are self cling and attach themselves to the acrylic windows by electrostatic cohesion which cannot affect the acrylic.
Let me also say that my new stickers will never see the light of day again, not because I'm particularly against the name change or because I dislike the logo but because of the way this has been done and all the money spent on this change cannot be spent again improving and acquiring sites and creating more hard standings, particularly for this expected increase(?) in motorhomes.
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Why don't CAMC do an agony Aunt page anymore.?Caravan and Motorhome Problems. Snappily could be called CAMP
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I agree that it shows a lack of thought and planning on the part of HO.
I've obviously no idea of your contract with the CMC but in your position, if the contract obliged me to display the new logo, I would send HO an invoice for costs incurred due to the lack of reasonable notice.
We shall arrange to visit you during the course of the year and shall expect to see you proudly wearing you new (old) CC clothing.
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What a waste of money the name and logo is the money could of been spent on much more worthy things what about tradition they could of asked the membership first before changing I have not met any one who likes it I have just cancelled my membership and was told they had not heard of any one not liking it obviously they don't read the feed backs
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The way the "club" senior staff? look through rose tinted glasses at any of their ideas, it should not surprise any one that they would say they have not recd any negative responses,when we were at Birmingham Grenville Chamberlin was saying that the "re brand" was being recd well? but when we spoke to other members on the stand it was "WHY?"
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I absolutely agree what a waste of money (our money) and why were we the membership not informed before the event. I knew nothing about this until I received a letter which by the way if each member received say 250000 strong membership that's over £100000 in stamps alone. So thank you club for wasting our money
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What exactly has changed then ?
the cost of the rebranding hasn't materially changed anything according to the club,
so why couldn't the club have spent the cost of rebranding on improving infastructer
the wi fi is appalling on not cheep for rubbish service
with a few exemptions the pitch fees have increased year on year ,
it will be interesting to see if the cost of re branding is published in the annual financial report
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