Red Pennant
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If you take dogs with you on holiday how do the RP alternatives cope with that? My experience has been the French car hire companies may not allow dogs in their vehicles and the hire is only to the port. How do you get the dogs across the channel. I am assured
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..... The other thought is that there is a captive market for RP AND Mayday (forces members who travel in UK and abroad to have both) which members will pay for regardless so we don't need to do anything? ....
That would be my thought too. IIRC 2 weeks RP came to around £250 the other year, it's only around £200 to cover me, SWMBO in what ever car we're in and my daughter in her car under MayDay for the whole year. I know the difference in cover, but I'm unlikely to need to the medical bit of RP (I know ... never say never) I'll change my own wheels rather than wait for someone else & know my way around under a lot of car bonnets ..... price wise RP & MayDay are poles apart.
With ADAC Partner Plus (which suits our requirements though may not suit everyone) we pay only £81.50 for annual cover for my OH and myself, for the car and caravan in the UK and Europe, and the European cover is for an unlimited period of time. It also covers us as passengers in any car, and (if arranged in advance) for less than a £20 extra this cover can be extended to two named younger family members' cars too.
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Why not have a European option on the CC Mayday offering?
After all, I believe you can add European cover to Green Flag, who operate the Mayday scheme.
It only covers cars KjellNN. You can do that with the C&CC Arrival scheme but I understand there are size limits. Their travel insurance will not cover my current motorhome at all, RP will, but off course at a price.
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Does Mayday not cover MHs in UK?
So why can that same cover not be extended with a "European Option"? Purely a breakdown/Roadside Assistance add on, no medical or other "bells and whistles"
Those who feel that is all they need for a 2-3 week trip will be happy, those who need/want more comprehensive cover can opt for Red Pennant.
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With ADAC Partner Plus (which suits our requirements though may not suit everyone) we pay only £81.50 for annual cover for my OH and myself, for the car and caravan in the UK and Europe, and the European cover is for an unlimited period of time. It also
covers us as passengers in any car, and (if arranged in advance) for less than a £20 extra this cover can be extended to two named younger family members' cars too.I seem to remember that ADAC were going to withdraw cover in UK for UK residents for new members after a certain date. It was mentioned on here 2/3 years back.
Did they go ahead with that, or did they back down?
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..... The other thought is that there is a captive market for RP AND Mayday (forces members who travel in UK and abroad to have both) which members will pay for regardless so we don't need to do anything? ....
That would be my thought too. IIRC 2 weeks RP came to around £250 the other year, it's only around £200 to cover me, SWMBO in what ever car we're in and my daughter in her car under MayDay for the whole year. I know the difference in cover, but I'm unlikely
to need to the medical bit of RP (I know ... never say never) I'll change my own wheels rather than wait for someone else & know my way around under a lot of car bonnets ..... price wise RP & MayDay are poles apart.Can you not opt out of the "personal" cover (presumably the medical bit) and just take the "motoring" cover?
That woud presumably save a reasonable amount?
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I'm tempted to join ADAC initially instead of Mayday even if I only initially used it in the UK. If it turns out suitable for use on the Continent then I have saved myself a fortune and lost nothing so I hope that is not the case K
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Can you not opt out of the "personal" cover (presumably the medical bit) and just take the "motoring" cover?
That woud presumably save a reasonable amount?
You can but as far as I can see there is not a lot of saving. The breakdown cover seems to be the major part of the cost.
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According to their web site which I have just found, the ADAC documentation only comes in German and you can only join on line if you are resident in Germany. The lack of English documentation makes if very difficult to understand what you are buying. The
German documentation is available on line
>here<As far as I can make out the size limitations for motorhomes are.
– a total width of 2.55 ms,
– a total length of 10 ms,
– a height of 3.20 ms including load and
– an allowed whole mass of 7,500 kgI take it the "including load" takes into account all additional fittings like roof boxes or satellite aerials.
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You can still join by telephoning ADAC - the problem is that the website 'form' isn't set up for British type postcodes and as mentioned, Germans can't pay by credit or debit card, which is the way we British choose to pay. Here are the details as posted by another forum member:
1. Ms Amanda Moser-Wickles on the Regensburg No. 00-49-94-15-23-44 sent me an email two days ago saying there is no problem paying over the phone at that Office. She did say to me if anyone has a problem if I send her their Tel. Number. She will ring them back but best to give me a time you will be able to receive the call.
2.This office is an extremely busy one. I know as I have visited twice. I was in there in April and was told they can take Renewal and Membership over the phone.. I did say in my last post above that some offices are refusing because Germans are not allowed to pay by Credit/Debit Cards..
With regards to the answer phone it tells you to leave your name and number and they will ring back. and in my case they always have..
Try emailing amanda.moser-wickles at sby.adac.de or Ann-Karin.zintl at sby.adac.de
If you telephone ask for one of these two names, they are the staff that deal with the Breakdown Membership. Others in the office deal with the Travel side of ADAC and are not conversent with the Breakdown Section.. Hope this helps.Documentation is available, in English. I'll look out for the link to it. My copy is from 2013 when we first took out ADAC cover, so I'll see if I can find a more up to date version and send you a link to it.
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We took out Red Penant last year at a cost of £350 for the 122 day cover Personal & Motoring, we have definatley had our moneys worth.
We had 2 breakdowns, 1 in April in Belgium when the header hose split, this needed a flat bed truck to take us to the garage, again in September while on the way to the ferry at Hull, the emission light came on and we went into limp mode, this time we had the trailer with us which meant a flatbed truck for the van and a driver that could also tow the trailer (not all drivers can tow) they took us to a campsite for the weekend and then came again on the Monday to take us to a garage another flatbed truck. The ferry had to be re-booked for mid-week, which cost the club a hefty fee as no discount. I think we would have paid significantly more than £350 for all listed above. All during the breakdowns the RP team kept phoning us to make sure everything was ok and in Belgium to help translate should we need it. We have no problem in taking out RP again this year there is no price you can put on peace of mind.
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Documentation is available, in English. I'll look out for the link to it. My copy is from 2013 when we first took out ADAC cover, so I'll see if I can find a more up to date version and send you a link to it.
Thanks Valda, it will be much appreciated.
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We are also looking for an annual policy for European Breakdown cover . Looked at the RAC but they don't cover bringing the 2 dogs home - so not ideal although a good price. Not heard of ADAC before, so interested to know more about it. I have looked at
their website but as someone has said, they say the policy documents are in German. Interested to know more about the cover - does it include repatriation of animals?0 -
Yes Mr Fat it does inc animals. email me here at dvphillips14@hotmail.com and I will send you full cover in English. Been Members 7 years used twice with car once with caravan in 3 different countries Germany, Austria and France. With excellent service.
DianneT
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Dianne the dimensions you give on your web site don't agree with ADAC T&Cs. If you have a full English copy of the latest ones, I would love a copy emailed to the contact on
>this page<peedee
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Just been on line to get RP quote for annual motoring policy and found out that you have to pay an additional amount if you want to include repatriation of the dogs - even though it says in the policy document that it covers the full cost of repatriation
of animals. I think this is a bit misleading, as no mention that it is an optional extra. May now decide to take the ADAC cover instead, but still weighing it all up!0 -
According to their web site which I have just found, the ADAC documentation only comes in German and you can only join on line if you are resident in Germany. The lack of English documentation makes if very difficult to understand what you are buying. The
German documentation is available on line
>here<As far as I can make out the size limitations for motorhomes are.
– a total width of 2.55 ms,
– a total length of 10 ms,
– a height of 3.20 ms including load and
– an allowed whole mass of 7,500 kgI take it the "including load" takes into account all additional fittings like roof boxes or satellite aerials.
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Those are measurements etc for Motor Homes
For Car/Caravan ..each vehicle
Length Up to 10 metres
Width Up to 2,55 metres
Height Up to 3 metres
Weight. Up to 3.5 tonnes
DianneT
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'Why not have a European option on the CC Mayday offering?
After all, I believe you can add European cover to Green Flag, who operate the Mayday scheme'
After doing just that we purchased Mayday Green Flag Euoropean cover. Dont do it!! We did and got stuck as our car broke down on site in the South of France. With 2 dogs and a van to get back to the UK. Green Flag would not do it.under any circumstance.
Van is only covered when attched to the tow car. They would not even give us a hire car or pay for a taxi back to the garage to pick up the car.Never again.
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'Why not have a European option on the CC Mayday offering?
After all, I believe you can add European cover to Green Flag, who operate the Mayday scheme'
After doing just that we purchased Mayday Green Flag Euoropean cover. Dont do it!! We did and got stuck as our car broke down on site in the South of France. With 2 dogs and a van to get back to the UK. Green Flag would not do it.under any circumstance.
Van is only covered when attched to the tow car. They would not even give us a hire car or pay for a taxi back to the garage to pick up the car.Never again.
Green Flag cover is not suitable for caravans you need Mayday. You have to check any breakdown cover will cover the recovery of the caravan if detached and essentially beyond Mayday and RAC through the other club then there is very little available.
If you are going abroad you need Mayday or similar through the other club and if you do not take these then make sure what you have got and specivically make sure they will recover the caravan if detached or if the caravan is the problem.
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'Why not have a European option on the CC Mayday offering?
After all, I believe you can add European cover to Green Flag, who operate the Mayday scheme'
After doing just that we purchased Mayday Green Flag Euoropean cover. Dont do it!! We did and got stuck as our car broke down on site in the South of France. With 2 dogs and a van to get back to the UK. Green Flag would not do it.under any circumstance.
Van is only covered when attched to the tow car. They would not even give us a hire car or pay for a taxi back to the garage to pick up the car.Never again.
A European addition to Mayday would of course have to cover all the same things as in UK, otherwise there would be no point.
Mayday already offers significantly better cover than many other offerings, so any optional European cover would need to do the same.
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Thanks Dianne - you are a star with all the information you have! You offered to send me details in English and I have emailed you with my details. Will look through before deciding. Many thanks.
Hi I have not received an email from you yet.
DianneT...
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