Excessive site fees
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As members of both clubs there is no answer to which is cheaper as generally sites even in the same area are not always comparable. The CC does at least have up front pricing where the C&CC sites needs you to go through the booking process to find out what
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As members of both clubs there is no answer to which is cheaper as generally sites even in the same area are not always comparable. The CC does at least have up front pricing where the C&CC sites needs you to go through the booking process to find out what
it will cost.That last point is true in theory, WW, but I wonder how many folk do check the price of CC sites before booking? When we book sites with either club we fill in all the details and the price appears once we've done that. In that respect there's little difference
although it's try that with C&CC you have to fill in your outfit details with each booking and there's an extra click if you want the ACR. On the other hand, you can book a HS if you want one!
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Being a members of both Clubs I use whichever sites suits my particular holiday Invercoe is in a stunning location. On the outskirts of the Village of Glencoe. Right on the water's edge. Cheaper per night than Bunree or North Ledaig. Although Bunree is one of our favourite sites we have also stayed at Invercoe.
Glen Nevis site is an excellent site and we have stayed there many times. It is within walking distance of Fort William a bit nearer to 3 miles.walk. It's right across from the Tourist Path up Ben Nevis. Adjacent to a lovely river with the "bouncy bridge" at the visitors centre.
We never Slavishly follow "the CC sites only" mantra, We go to the most interesting places and use the nearest decent.campsite or CL to that location.
It's what you do on holiday which matters, not how nice a view you get of the other caravans.
K
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We never Slavishly follow "the CC sites only"mantra, We go to the most interesting places and use the nearest decent.campsite or CL to that location.
It's what you do on holiday which matters, not how nice a view you get of the other caravans.
K
Wow! We have more in common that you could ever imagine, K!
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Just returned from Chester Fair Oaks site, one night, £31.30 !!, I nearly choked on my dentures, It was our first trip out this year, only able to book something last minute.Ok, apparently, our over night stay was classed as still in the 'High' season,
but £31.30 per night (two adults) to stay in my own caravan is ridiculous. The club is in danger of killing the goose that layed the golden egg. it's easy sometimes to forget that we have also paid a membership fee for the privilege of being charged so much.Write your comments here...Why go to a Caravan Club site? We never do as they look like supermarket car parks to us. We often find a CL either with no other caravans or only one or two. It reminds me of camping as a child in the 1950's.
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Being a members of both Clubs I use whichever sites suits my particular holiday Invercoe is in a stunning location. On the outskirts of the Village of Glencoe. Right on the water's edge. Cheaper per night than Bunree or North Ledaig. Although Bunree
is one of our favourite sites we have also stayed at Invercoe.Glen Nevis site is an excellent site and we have stayed there many times. It is within walking distance of Fort William a bit nearer to 3 miles.walk. It's right across from the Tourist Path up Ben Nevis. Adjacent to a lovely river with the "bouncy bridge"
at the visitors centre.We never Slavishly follow "the CC sites only"
mantra, We go to the most interesting places and use the nearest decent.campsite or CL to that location.It's what you do on holiday which matters, not how nice a view you get of the other caravans.
K
Write your comments here... We are also members of both clubs and check out sites from both when touring. Just back from Camping in the Forrest site at Aberfoyle which is run by the C&CC and thoroughly enjoyed it although no CC site there.
At Oban would go for North Ledaig for the view though and same at Bunree.
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Being a members of both Clubs I use whichever sites suits my particular holiday Invercoe is in a stunning location. On the outskirts of the Village of Glencoe. Right on the water's edge. Cheaper per night than Bunree or North Ledaig. Although Bunree
is one of our favourite sites we have also stayed at Invercoe.Glen Nevis site is an excellent site and we have stayed there many times. It is within walking distance of Fort William a bit nearer to 3 miles.walk. It's right across from the Tourist Path up Ben Nevis. Adjacent to a lovely river with the "bouncy bridge"
at the visitors centre.We never Slavishly follow "the CC sites only"
mantra, We go to the most interesting places and use the nearest decent.campsite or CL to that location.It's what you do on holiday which matters, not how nice a view you get of the other caravans.
K
Write your comments here... We are also members of both clubs and check out sites from both when touring. Just back from Camping in the Forrest site at Aberfoyle which is run by the C&CC and thoroughly enjoyed it although no CC site there.
At Oban would go for North Ledaig for the view though and same at Bunree.
Write your comments here...Glad you enjoyed Cobbleland Wildwood. We go there often. Great walking straight from the site, great cycle track into Aberfoyle and one of the best warden couples we have ever come across.
K
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In the last two to three years we have started to use private owned sites due to priceing and what you get for your money, where before we were 100 per cent CC sites. One site we use a lot in Devon has fully serviced pitches, and probably the the best kept
site we have stayed on in 30 years and is a lot cheaper. I'm afraid the CC has gone to dear for what you get. And I think the CC has lost the feeling that it is a club and is know a business.0 -
We live in the South East and like to go away for lots of long weekends, not too far away, all year round, in addition to our longer summer trips. We are having difficullty finding sites at times in places that are convenient for motorhomers, i.e. leave
motorhome in situ and explore on foot/buses, and certainly are finding the Caravan Club Sites very expensive just for three nights. Guess they do not really want us, only the people who stay longer.0 -
Write your comments here... We are also members of both clubs and check out sites from both when touring. Just back from Camping in the Forrest site at Aberfoyle which is run by the C&CC and thoroughly enjoyed it although no CC site there.
At Oban would go for North Ledaig for the view though and same at Bunree.
Write your comments here...Glad you enjoyed Cobbleland Wildwood. We go there often. Great walking straight from the site, great cycle track into Aberfoyle and one of the best warden couples we have ever come across.
K
Yes very good site and location and wardens very good. The grass pitches seem to us far better being on the flat but the hard standings are in the trees and not as scenic having no view. It does not put us off but we would take the grass pitches as the first
option.Big advantage for us is it is an hours drive away but a world away in atmosphere.
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We live in the South East and like to go away for lots of long weekends, not too far away, all year round, in addition to our longer summer trips. We are having difficullty finding sites at times in places that are convenient for motorhomers, i.e. leave motorhome in situ and explore on foot/buses, and certainly are finding the Caravan Club Sites very expensive just for three nights. Guess they do not really want us, only the people who stay longer.
This will only apply at the sites that do a midweek discount at certain times of year. Otherwise all nights are the same price, within the appropriate price band.
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We live in the South East and like to go away for lots of long weekends, not too far away, all year round, in addition to our longer summer trips. We are having difficullty finding sites at times in places that are convenient for motorhomers, i.e. leave
motorhome in situ and explore on foot/buses, and certainly are finding the Caravan Club Sites very expensive just for three nights. Guess they do not really want us, only the people who stay longer.Not really.......they are now just attracting the "I will pay whatever the CC decide to charge" brigade.
That, of course, can only last so long and then even tbe CC will have to see reality.......
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We live in the South East and like to go away for lots of long weekends, not too far away, all year round, in addition to our longer summer trips. We are having difficullty finding sites at times in places that are convenient for motorhomers, i.e. leave motorhome in situ and explore on foot/buses, and certainly are finding the Caravan Club Sites very expensive just for three nights. Guess they do not really want us, only the people who stay longer.
Not really.......they are now just attracting the "I will pay whatever the CC decide to charge" brigade.
That, of course, can only last so long and then even tbe CC will have to see reality.......
yet another brigade!
Trouble is one man's brigade is well err, another man's brigade! Which 'brigade' are you in? The let's all be exactly like all the commercials brigade??0 -
We are in the "not daft enough to pay Club Site Summer price brigade!" Lots of members, growing annually!
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We are in the "not daft enough to pay Club Site Summer price brigade!" Lots of members, growing annually!
And that's exactly what many of the let's all be lke the commercial brigade do, as well as charge for my awning and dog and charge for a minimum of 3 nights!!0 -
What's with this "money no object" insult. Can you not just accept that some folk actually choose the CC site? Choice is what it's all about surely? We're currently on a fab C&CC site at Polstead in Suffolk. Next week, in order to meet up with family we'll be on the CC site at Commons Wood on a bank holiday weekend. Does that make us one of your "money no object" members? I don't think so!
( Not sure how your suggestion will go down with the "bang up the prices in school holidays" crew!
)Write your comments here...what on earth is wrong with some of you people ! just because some of you think CC site prices are high you assume that because you won't pay the going rate other members are going to do the same.
get a life & get real & let people make their own choice about where they go , when they go & how much they are prepared to pay for their holiday time I really don't give a flying fig about any of this running the CC down brigade stuff .
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Some of us critisise the club but hopefully in a constructive manner.In my cases when I have referred to excessive charges I have used actual other sites to compare. I have always used the same time period in my comparisons.As I don t use club sites during
school holidays I kept off that period. My concern is that those of us who use sites in the slack period, when they are very sparsley occupied now go elsewhere, where there are better offers and excellent commercial sites.This results is loss of income to
the club.As an example we used Lady Margaret once this winter/spring whereas normally we would have been there 5/6 times. We used alternatives and have been away more recently than previous years. The club has moved away from its base, neglecting its core
business for more "sexy" issues, building up a huge HO organisation which seems to be more interested in providing well paid jobs for themselves to the detriment of the members. I dont expect anyone else to totally agree with me but hopefully through CT some
of these observations will be heard at HO and maybe make things better.0 -
Some of us critisise the club but hopefully in a constructive manner.In my cases when I have referred to excessive charges I have used actual other sites to compare. I have always used the same time period in my comparisons.As I don t use club sites during school holidays I kept off that period. My concern is that those of us who use sites in the slack period, when they are very sparsley occupied now go elsewhere, where there are better offers and excellent commercial sites.This results is loss of income to the club.As an example we used Lady Margaret once this winter/spring whereas normally we would have been there 5/6 times. We used alternatives and have been away more recently than previous years. The club has moved away from its base, neglecting its core business for more "sexy" issues, building up a huge HO organisation which seems to be more interested in providing well paid jobs for themselves to the detriment of the members. I dont expect anyone else to totally agree with me but hopefully through CT some of these observations will be heard at HO and maybe make things better.
Write your comments here...if it's such a big issue for you surely a letter to CC headquarters would be a better use of your time .
Rather than moaning & nonsense waffle about a subject which clearly won't get any attention broadcast on here
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Some of us critisise the club but hopefully in a constructive manner.In my cases when I have referred to excessive charges I have used actual other sites to compare. I have always used the same time period in my comparisons.As I don t use club sites during
school holidays I kept off that period. My concern is that those of us who use sites in the slack period, when they are very sparsley occupied now go elsewhere, where there are better offers and excellent commercial sites.This results is loss of income to
the club.As an example we used Lady Margaret once this winter/spring whereas normally we would have been there 5/6 times. We used alternatives and have been away more recently than previous years. The club has moved away from its base, neglecting its core
business for more "sexy" issues, building up a huge HO organisation which seems to be more interested in providing well paid jobs for themselves to the detriment of the members. I dont expect anyone else to totally agree with me but hopefully through CT some
of these observations will be heard at HO and maybe make things better.Write your comments here...What proof do you have of HO over paying themselves or inflating the number of job positions they have or should everyoine who workls for the CC get paid the bare minimum wage, work in a crap office just so you can enjoy a holiday
a bit cheaper!!!There is a simple issue of supply and demand, the sites make a profit at a price people are willing and able to pay simples, they do not have any alternative income stream once you are on site unlike haven etal with bars, restaurants, sports facilities etc.
If everyone is htat fed up why continue to be a member?
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MichaelT- you can have your opininon I can have mine. I use club when it suits me but I also look at alternatives. Have suggested to club ways of improving but I can undrstand they may have different views..No Haven site insists you use other facilities.We
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As I've posted elsewhere - "you pays your money and you makes your choice".
The club, along with the C&CC offers an alternative to commercial organisations and many stand alone private sites - both in what they provide and in their pricing structure. Club sites are undoubtedly more expensive than many commercial/private sites out of peak season (although to term the difference excessive is somewhat misleading I feel), but that is mainly down to the special offers those sites offer at that time of year (if you comare them night for night they're often not so very different). To compensate, they whack up the prices mightily in peak season, precisely the time when families are more likely to want to use them and precisely the time when club sites become more affordable. That's good isn't it? It encourages families who don't want all singing/all dancing sites to use them.
Surely it's good to have that alternative? Surely it's good to have a network of sites, many of which are away from holiday hotspots?
Folk who want to and can take advantage of special offers at others sites would be crazy not to do so - good luck to them. But personally I just don't get this argument that the club, its sites and its prices should become some sort of "Haven" clone. (Other leisure organisations are available!)
Choose whatever is right for you, but don't knock folk who think and choose differently. It's their money, their choice!
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Very well stated Moulesy, i have been a club member for 30+yrs i have also been a member of c&cc as well as various other organisations, I pay what the price is to get the location and facilities that i want for my holiday, whether that be 2,4,or 44 days.
And yes i do consider price but my primary concern is going where i wish to go and that can mean cc, c&cc, haven etc, does not matter a jot to me as long as they provide what i am looking for. Would not do for us all to be alike in our choices, However Choice
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As I've posted elsewhere - "you pays your money and you makes your choice".
The club, along with the C&CC offers an alternative to commercial organisations and many stand alone private sites - both in what they provide and in their pricing structure. Club sites are undoubtedly more expensive than many commercial/private sites out
of peak season (although to term the difference excessive is somewhat misleading I feel), but that is mainly down to the special offers those sites offer at that time of year (if you comare them night for night they're often not so very different). To compensate,
they whack up the prices mightily in peak season, precisely the time when families are more likely to want to use them and precisely the time when club sites become more affordable. That's good isn't it? It encourages families who don't want all singing/all
dancing sites to use them.Surely it's good to have that alternative? Surely it's good to have a network of sites, many of which are away from holiday hotspots?
Folk who want to and can take advantage of special offers at others sites would be crazy not to do so - good luck to them. But personally I just don't get this argument that the club, its sites and its prices should become some sort of "Haven" clone. (Other
leisure organisations are available!)Choose whatever is right for you, but don't knock folk who think and choose differently. It's their money, their choice!
I can't highlight your contention about bumping fees at peak times on commercial sites, but in our experience, being a family that is tied to school holidays, as I posted in the other Site Fees thread; the CC is higher priced, for less facilities. My other
thread illustrates our first years caravanning site fees, facilities and locations for a more informed debate and not just statements. I did the analysis to see what was what after 'hearing' lots of views about the CC prior to actually joining. We did the
same exercise 10 years ago with the C&CC when the CC did not welcome MH. We didn't renew the C&CC those yeas ago after the first year. We did a lot of rallying with a MH owners club thereafter including a convoy to Poland.As I say there, we have chosen to use CC, CL and Commercial sites going forward, our choice.
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As has been said by a lot more people than the "knockers"when chosing cc or ccc sites in the majority of circumstances,it is a known good quality product that can stand up to the majority of competion, as is noted in the majority of sites at peak periods,both
clubs seem to be investing, where possible ,in their sites some of which have been on the networks far longer than probably any posters on here,and i am sure its very difficult for either club to juggle the available money into which site gets this years investment
with over 300 sites between them,but as we know the few who actually post on here saying that the clubs are getting to expensive, has not reached the real world members0 -
I have no prejudice regarding sites.In fact going to Chatsworth CC next Sunday.
Write your comments here....so much for the waffle about CC sites being to expensive , Chatsworth is one of the dearest on the network......... enough said
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Basically if you like club sites and can avford them then you use them. If you do not like them or cannot afford them then you go elsewhere. You can get a cheaper deal in some areas but except for families then we believe they represent decent value. A family
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Compass- Its horses for courses.A Haven 3 week in the lakes for the same period quoted would be £87 ( more expensive than Chatswirth)> Still remains I get a superb pitch in Pwllhheli in May at £9-90 per night. Instead of being blinkered we look and use
alternatives, to the detriment of total CC income. thats all I am saying.0 -
Basically if you like club sites and can avford them then you use them. If you do not like them or cannot afford them then you go elsewhere. You can get a cheaper deal in some areas but except for families then we believe they represent decent value. A family deal is probably the thing most needed.
I don't agree WW, I can afford Club sites and I don't dislike them but like Fisherman says we are not all blinkered and there are just as good non Club sites out there at better prices, especially off peak. What effect this is going to have on Club occupancy this year remains to be seen but as I have said in another thread my perception is the trend is down.
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Compass- Its horses for courses.A Haven 3 week in the lakes for the same period quoted would be £87 ( more expensive than Chatswirth)> Still remains I get a superb pitch in Pwllhheli in May at £9-90 per night. Instead of being blinkered we look and use
alternatives, to the detriment of total CC income. thats all I am saying.If the CC had to charge £9.90 To attract you in May. They would have to more than double their occupancy rate just to bring in the same net income as they do now. This is very unlikely to happen. Haven relies on you spending money in bars / clubs etc. to
make ends meet. You may not do this, but enough do for them to offer the deal.0
