The Caravan Club is coming to Facebook

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  • Tinwheeler
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    edited August 2016 #122

    I too would ideally like a reply but Rochelle cannot really be expected to come on here and say the Marketing Manager has goofed.

    But he /she has, big time.

    I've thought of a solution, Fysh. Let everyone have two chances of winning. People can enter twice by whatever means and then it becomes fair.

    PS. Did you notice that if a non-member wins they also get a year's membership thrown in as part of the prize? 

  • Fysherman
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    edited August 2016 #123

    I would rather there was a senior management meeting that recognised they will lose more members than they will gain alienating customers by treating them unequally and unfairly.

     Yup, but that might be to comply with the various regulations surrounding competitions.

     

     

  • huskydog
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    edited August 2016 #124

    This thread is just like squabbling children .."he might be getting something more than me"Undecided

  • Fysherman
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    edited August 2016 #125

    You cannot see the bigger picture then HD?

     

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited August 2016 #126

    That's uncalled for, Husky! 

    It's not 'me', any debate (not squabble) is on behalf of all of us. 

  • JayEss
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    edited August 2016 #127

    I don't think they should run competitions on Facebook as they changed the terms during this one and announced winners two days before the end date. Also appear to have awarded a prize to one person on the wrong post. 

    It's a bit like a primary school sports day only not as well organised. 

    I've stopped following the page now. 

  • Fysherman
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    edited August 2016 #128

    Well I must admit JayEss it's not going anywhere if HD's views are shared by many others

    If people think it's about competition rules then wow!

  • JayEss
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    edited August 2016 #129

    Some people are concerned about fairness and equality fysh and others are not. 

    I think all comps should be open to all members but also that they should stick to the rules that they themselves set. 

     

  • huskydog
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    edited August 2016 #130

    The way i see it is ,the CC are having a competition on Facebook ,i dont use Facebook, thats my loss.........

  • Fysherman
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    edited August 2016 #131

    It's not about competitions HD, its about the club beginning a process that could eventually (if not nipped in the bud) end up with members feeling they must join Facebook in order to fully partake in the club.

    It's competitions and some special offers now but how would you feel if sometime in the future Facebook members were offered a free night on a club site if they "liked"  something on Facebook?  Would that be fair? How about priority booking a day earlier in December if you book through Facebook? I will stop there in case somebody at EG thinks "thats a good idea".

    Lets send the signal now in no uncertain terms that we want a level playing field for ALL members.

  • eurortraveller
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    edited August 2016 #132

    Oh Lordy. Now I'm frightened to join the Facebook thingy in case I win a free night on a Club site. Don't want that at all  - would they make me go? Sad

  • JayEss
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    edited August 2016 #133

    I don't think they would ET. 

    I didn't stop following it because of the competition issue or the dubious draw. It's just boring. Most Facebook business pages are but there are other more interesting caravan related pages. 

    For example on one I have just learned that the stench of cannabis near the toilet block on the Southport site is unpleasant  

  • Fysherman
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    edited August 2016 #134

    Wondered why Southport is nearly always booked upCool

  • eurortraveller
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    edited August 2016 #135

    Ooh Jayess, stop trying to tempt me. 

  • ItsIDW
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    edited August 2016 #136

    I don't want Facebook, I dislike Facebook intensely and I will not be forced to use it on the whim  of some person within the Caravan Club 'hierachy'. Personally I very much hope it is 'nipped in the bud' because the fad will be of little, if any, interest
    or use to a significant number of longstanding members.

    So often in these days of 'enlightenment' it is presumed , as it happens very unsafely, that some members a) have internet access; and b) sufficient knowledge (and ability) to use it.

  • Briang
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    edited August 2016 #137

    Hi Rochelle

    Thanks for taking the time to answer. I am happy with that. I hope the club realises that a level playing field is what many members are concerned about.

    If someone wants to be on Facebook then that's their business but those who choose not to be should never be disadvantaged.

    I assume there is no chance someone could enter via Facebook and again via the Magazine? That would clearly give the Facebook user a considerable advantage. Could you confirm please?

    Hi Fysherman,

    As they are seperate competitions you are more than welcome to enter both if you wished 

    Er, that means Facebook users can have two bites at the cherry and that's unfair. Can you see my point? Don't have to reply to that Rochelle but you might kick the problem upstairs and let the managers have a think about what they are doing?

     

    Exactly so, Fysh. 

     

    Rochelle, why should FB users get twice the opportunity of the rest of us? We are becoming second class members and equality is rapidly going out of the window. Please will you bring this to the attention of Nick Lomas. 

    Unlike Fysh, I would like to see a reply here - a meaningful reply from the top, that is.

     

     

    Come on Rochelle let's have fair play.

  • Briang
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    edited August 2016 #138

    I too would ideally like a reply but Rochelle cannot really be expected to come on here and say the Marketing Manager has goofed.

    But he /she has, big time.

    Most definatley

  • JD6620
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    edited August 2016 #139

    Well I am happy that the Caravan Club has come to Facebook.  I use both Facebook and Twitter extensively.  I would've entered the New Zealand competition but I can't go on the dates set so that's my tough luck.  Those are the terms and conditions. I have
    better things to do than come on here and keep complaining about it. 

  • Briang
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    edited August 2016 #140

    It's not about competitions HD, its about the club beginning a process that could eventually (if not nipped in the bud) end up with members feeling they must join Facebook in order to fully partake in the club.

    It's competitions and some special offers now but how would you feel if sometime in the future Facebook members were offered a free night on a club site if they "liked"  something on Facebook?  Would that be fair? How about priority booking a day earlier
    in December if you book through Facebook? I will stop there in case somebody at EG thinks "thats a good idea".

    Lets send the signal now in no uncertain terms that we want a level playing field for ALL members.

    Totally aggree with you there.Level playing field for all members. 

  • Briang
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    edited August 2016 #141

    I don't want Facebook, I dislike Facebook intensely and I will not be forced to use it on the whim  of some person within the Caravan Club 'hierachy'. Personally I very much hope it is 'nipped in the bud' because the fad will be of little, if any, interest
    or use to a significant number of longstanding members.

    So often in these days of 'enlightenment' it is presumed , as it happens very unsafely, that some members a) have internet access; and b) sufficient knowledge (and ability) to use it.

    Here Here.

  • SteveL
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    edited August 2016 #142

    The way i see it is ,the CC are having a competition on Facebook ,i dont use Facebook, thats my loss.........

    +1 

    It is not really a lot different to other businesses that offer advantages for new customers only. It is just a fact of modern marketing life. I have no intention of using Facebook, but a lot of CC members probably do. In the scheme of things it is not unreasonable
    of the club to encourage this minority, or possibly majority.  

  • IanH
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    edited August 2016 #143

    The way i see it is ,the CC are having a competition on Facebook ,i dont use Facebook, thats my loss.........

    Not really Huskey........as I see it, the users of FB are the 'losers'........

  • IanH
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    edited August 2016 #144

    May I just ask those users of FB who say that they use it to keep in touch with 'friends'.......are you aware of such things as e-mails, text messages, telephones......and letters? Oh, and as a last resort, are you aware that you could actually meet some real people?

  • JayEss
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    edited August 2016 #145

    May I just ask those users of FB who say that they use it to keep in touch with 'friends'.......are you aware of such things as e-mails, text messages, telephones......and letters? Oh, and as a last resort, are you aware that you could actually meet some
    real people?

    What makes you think they aren't real people that I keep in touch with?

    i use Facebook messenger. Why is email or text better and why use the phone when calling through messenger is free

  • IanH
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    edited August 2016 #146

    Because you don't have to log onto anything to use email or texts, or to check whether you've received a message.

    Plus, you don't have FB harvesting your personal details......

  • Justus2
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    edited August 2016 #147

    May I just ask those users of FB who say that they use it to keep in touch with 'friends'.......are you aware of such things as e-mails, text messages, telephones......and letters? Oh, and as a last resort, are you aware that you could actually meet some
    real people?

    Write your comments here...so last week, we had a bbq,15 friends, everyone invited by fb msg, everyone replied, everone saw everyone else's reply, discussed who might bring things along, and what, and what time they might arrive... Of course I could have
    done it bt 15 texts or 15 emails or 15 letters.... Are you serious? ;-)

  • IanH
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    edited August 2016 #148

    No, just one email.

    You can have multiple recipients and they can copy replies to multiple recipients, you know.....

  • JayEss
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    edited August 2016 #149

    Facebook can harvest what it likes as far as I'm concerned. Insurance comparison sites are more of a nuisance. 

    email is for work. So last century for communications Wink

  • IanH
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    edited August 2016 #150

    Other than being far more efficient?

  • Justus2
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    edited August 2016 #151

    No, just one email.

    You can have multiple recipients and they can copy replies to multiple recipients, you know.....

    Write your comments here...Thanks for the info, I'll stick to fb group messages thankyou. Its easier and more compact.