Haven ....never again

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  • Rocky 2 buckets
    Rocky 2 buckets Forum Participant Posts: 7,101
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    edited October 2016 #92

    Yes, and now we know not to do it again.

    Tinny, positive from negative. . . .You've learn a lesson plus you've helped other folk(like me) never to chance it. For that I thank youHappy after
    seeing your pics £7 don't sound that much of a bargainLaughingLaughing

  • EasyT
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    edited October 2016 #93

    Is that all they paid Tinny to stay there? 

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited October 2016 #94

    I should have demanded far moreLaughing

  • Fisherman
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    edited October 2016 #95

    Are you sure that was an Euro pitch.Nothing like the ones at Hafan y Mor.Pitty I cant post a picture on here. More like the St Davids CC site in late September

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited October 2016 #96

    Absolutely sure, Fisherman. 

  • JillwithaJay
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    edited October 2016 #97

    Here's our pitch at Bladon Chains CC site.

    The assistant warden placed our caravan on the pitch with his little tractor:

    Here's your image Ian.  I've Deleted User your code.

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  • Tinwheeler
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    edited October 2016 #98

    That's appalling. I wouldn't have stayed. 

  • brue
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    edited October 2016 #99

    We found CC pitches last year which were totally mud, worst ones at Seacroft so in a way the Haven mud was a bargain! It really annoys me that horrible muddy pitches cost the same as hardstandings.

  • Kennine
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    edited October 2016 #100

    Here's our pitch at Bladon Chains CC site.

    The assistant warden placed our caravan on the pitch with his little tractor:

    Here's your image Ian.  I've Deleted User your code.

    photo 3452ee6a-3c49-4b47-bb37-5ab028ab22df_zpsnwpuyfsk.jpg

    Write your comments here...That pitch is shocking.  If that is what the warden considered a marketable pitch and charged money for it. IMO.the caravanner was ripped off.

    A refund of site fees would be well worth investigating.

    K

  • statusMoty1
    statusMoty1 Forum Participant Posts: 225
    edited October 2016 #101

    That's appalling. I wouldn't have stayed. 

    neither would we....even if it meant looking further afield

  • young thomas
    young thomas Club Member Posts: 11,357 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    edited October 2016 #102

    Are you sure that was an Euro pitch.Nothing like the ones at Hafan y Mor.Pitty I cant post a picture on here. More like the St Davids CC site in late September

    our first ever tour in our first van was of Wales...all four 'corners'...

    the weather was awful, rain, rain....

    i remember stepping out of thr ban jnto about 6" of watery mud...

    wardens reaction.....'ah, yes, its our microclimate!'.....

    but back OT, it looks like TW has had a 'bad un' but if my pitch at St Davids had influenced me at all, id have never stayed on another club site.

    unfortunately, i dont usually take pictures of the pitches i stay on (too busy doing other stuff) nor can i be ar*ed to mess about  failing repeadtedly to post one on this 'tricky' forum, but, in the interest of balance it would be nice to show a view of
    the site at Hafan y Mor (just a few years old) or even the separate Euro pitch area at Perran (again recently developed), ones i have used this year....

    either is at least the equal of any club site weve stayed on and many would say they were better.

    however, i cant do it with an ipad and this software, perhaps someone else whomhas stayed on these areas might have one.

    whole being totally in agreement with TW re his pitch (and the small pitches generally at Seaview), im not the type of customer to let one bad experience influence me for the rest of my touring life, i like to give most organisations (and folk) a second
    chance....

    perhaps, had the first site been Hafan y More rather than Seaview, Tw might have been more impressed.

    to those contemplating a stay at a Haven site, perhaps the thing to take out of this is to avoid Seaview but to remain a little more open about the rest of sites.

    personal recommendation (or not) is the way to go....so Seaview a 'no', Tenby a 'yes' if quiet but a 'no' in holiday time.

    Hafan y mor is 'yes' from quite a few on CT, and (despite a comment from some about 'sardines' in the grass area at Perran, the Euro pitches are, actually, a totally separate modern area, and off-peak, the grass will be totally sparse anyway.

    we took a 'monthly' ticket at Wild Duck in Norfolk and we found that a great base for cycling....just over £160 IIRC and the site was perfectly fine....again it must have been low season (october?) to get those prices...

    we've also used the one in Poole several times, but it looks like they have closed the touring area (either a total refurb or becoming more 'statics' .....dont know yet)

    we've also used the other Weymouth site (Littlesea) and, TBH, i cant picture it....brain fade....but the location is fine, and i dont have a 'never again' flag in my mind over this one.....

    so, my honest appaisals, some are really good, some arent.

    however, i guess its the potential inconsistency that is the issue for those considering one of their sites.

    again, i can only say to use those where folk on CT can give a good actual review....as Tinny has....

  • SteveL
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    edited October 2016 #103

    Ian it  is in truly terrible condition and should have been removed from available pitches. The one thing I find surprising about the haven pitch is the amount of grass and only a small concrete hardstanding. I thought these euro pitches were all hardstanding, and I had booked it, would have been as shocked as TW.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited October 2016 #104

    Ian it  is in truly terrible condition and should have been removed from available pitches. The one thing I find surprising about the haven pitch is the amount of grass and only a small concrete hardstanding. I
    thought these euro pitches were all hardstanding, and I had booked it, would have been as shocked as TW.

    It's part concrete slab (small) and part reinforced 'grass', Steve.  It's all classed as a HS. On some sites they use chippings alongside the slab which would be preferable. 

  • huskydog
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    edited October 2016 #105

    It's not always as easy to say  "i'll go else where", you may have driven 300 miles have a couple of kids and are tired, so some times you have to take it , but i would take a photo and send it to HO and look for some refund

  • EasyT
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    edited October 2016 #106

    Actually that CC pitch itself was not too bad. It was the access to it. 

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited October 2016 #107

    Actually that CC pitch itself was not too bad. It was the access to it. 

    At least there was room to walk around the van and open doors. 

  • EasyT
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    edited October 2016 #108

    At that Haven pitch I would have been concerned the me or OH might slip A over T and measure our length. Looked lethal Tinny

  • brue
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    edited October 2016 #109

    Seaview Haven and Weymouth Bay sites are next to each other, a very large area. You have to like big sites to use these and not mind being close to the maintenance area.

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  • JVB66
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    edited October 2016 #110

    Here's our pitch at Bladon Chains CC site.

    The assistant warden placed our caravan on the pitch with his little tractor:

    Here's your image Ian.  I've Deleted User your code.

    photo 3452ee6a-3c49-4b47-bb37-5ab028ab22df_zpsnwpuyfsk.jpg

    ...Interesting picture? was this after you had just arrived,? if so it just shows how some of our fellow members treat the pitches,  it looks like a mv was there before as the "skid marks are to the rear which would not have been caused by a caravan beig towed off

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited October 2016 #111

    Seaview Haven and Weymouth Bay sites are next to each other, a very large area. You have to like big sites to use these and not mind being close to the maintenance area.

    map

    Cheers, Brue. Thanks for posting. The facilities on both sites can be used by people staying at either. 

    The touring site is close to the main Seaview complex and that's why we  were disturbed by the noise from the boiler house. 

    We had pitch 30 on the extreme right of the map. The road by that pitch is a cul-de-sac and does not bend around to the lower field. The map is inaccurate in that respect and it doesn't indicate the hedges between pitches either. It's probably an artists
    impression rather than a map as such.

  • brue
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    edited October 2016 #112

    I think the site is very popular in the summer because of the beach access. Weymouth Littlesea goes down to the Fleet Lagoon which isn't used for bathing.

    Anyway you were a good guinea pig for all of us...Wink

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited October 2016 #113

    It's likely to be pure hell in summer I reckon. 

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  • SteveL
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    edited October 2016 #115

    Possibly the state of Ian's pitch resulted from folk trying to extricate / site themselves, rather than get the warden to do it. Of course if it's a motorhome they really don't have any choice as the tractors are not up to towing that sort of weight. So
    really the pitches should have been taken out of use in an effort to avoid damage. Our, first caravaning trip 11 years ago was to Malvern at Easter, and we ended up on very wet grass. Although the van sunk somewhat, I did manage to extricate it with minimal
    damage. Some other members turned their pitches into ploughed fields. As Easter was at the end of March  those pitches would have been compromised for the rest of the year. They should have never been used.

  • JayEss
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    edited October 2016 #116

    All these pictures just confirm that grass and reinforced grass is not a suitable pitching surface for uk sites with a lot of turnover. 

    What a mess. 

  • JVB66
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    edited October 2016 #117

    Until it is known when and year the pictures were taken, one can only guess, as a grass pitch can go from usable to as pictured quite quickly,  depending on the type of ground in the area,and was the pitch Ian was put on the only one available? after a bad spell of weather? 

    It is known that some wardens on seasonal sites with, at times ,poor ground conditions , to advise HO not to let all pitches,before they open to try to aleviate the problems 

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  • JayEss
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    edited October 2016 #119

    Does it matter which site and which year?

    This is why I don't use club sites when grass pitches are in use. 

  • johndailey
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    edited October 2016 #120

    Please pardon my ignorance but what is THS? I see it often on here. I presume that HS is holiday site.

    Thanks.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited October 2016 #121

    It's a Temporary Holiday Site run, usually, by local associations of C&CC, John.