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  • Tinwheeler
    Tinwheeler Forum Participant Posts: 23,155 ✭✭✭
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    edited October 2016 #212

    The problem is once again we are not comparing apples to apples. BB is talking about 1 site (similar to those abroad) where they are trying to maximise profit/occupancy whereas the CC has 200+ sites . It's easy to change 1 site especially if it's yours but
    to make a change at 200 takes a little more planning and resource and of course as we have seen on here different members have different views so what I or BB think is a good idea lots of others don't. 

    I did ask at sandy balls recently about a MHSP as we arrived full but was met with blank stares so had to manually empty the grey water on the pitch using the fiamma but they didn't seem interested.

    One site? Isn't Crealy part of Hoseasons?

  • Fisherman
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    edited October 2016 #213

    Apples & Pears- Surely the CC could experiment with more mid week discounts off peak to entice us to use the CC sites particularly in winter.Last Jan we were on Lady Margaret with ony 8 vans in  total. Havnt looked at 2017 prices but my guess it will be
    the easy option - increase prices and extend peak periods. Dont mention competition during the tea breaks.

  • JVB66
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    edited October 2016 #214

    michael, a few metres of grey corrugated pipe to guide the water into the drain is a useful (and cheap and light) extra to carry.....

    re, the club having more sites.....yes they do....but the club doesnt have to change/develop every site in the same way...at the same time..

    not all of their sites will require the same attention...

    not to address an obvious issue just because it costs a bomb to do it at every site is a nonesense....just fix (at low cost) what needs fixing....where it needs fixing.

    also, when considering rolling out large, wide spread improvements, remember....the way to eat an elephant is in small pieces....Wink

    ..I notice that you carry an "extention" pipe to cater for the inadequately designed waste on your M/van, which your "mod" could have been incorperated in the build,  which as said before would save the thousands of pounds that is expected to be spent on
    all companies sites,Undecided

  • moulesy
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    edited October 2016 #215

    Apples & Pears- Surely the CC could experiment with more mid week discounts off peak to entice us to use the CC sites particularly in winter.Last Jan we were on Lady Margaret with ony 8 vans in  total. Havnt looked at 2017 prices
    but my guess it will be the easy option - increase prices and extend peak periods. Dont mention competition during the tea breaks.

    Not the first time by any means that's been suggested and once again, have to agree, as long as it's not at the expense of banging up peak season rates when families can still get a reasonably good deal if they choose to use club sites. Happy

  • JVB66
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    edited October 2016 #216

    Apples & Pears- Surely the CC could experiment with more mid week discounts off peak to entice us to use the CC sites particularly in winter.Last Jan we were on Lady Margaret with ony 8 vans in  total. Havnt looked at 2017 prices
    but my guess it will be the easy option - increase prices and extend peak periods. Dont mention competition during the tea breaks.

    Not the first time by any means that's been suggested and once again, have to agree, as long as it's not at the expense of banging up peak season rates when families can still get a reasonably good deal if they choose to use club sites. Happy

    ..And to the detriment of CLs in the areaUndecided

  • EasyT
    EasyT Forum Participant Posts: 16,194
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    edited October 2016 #217

    Reduce weekday prices in January for LAdy Margeret's Park. Can't see much advantage to the club in doing that. For a couple it is presently under £16 at that time of year. There is a limited number available to go away at that time of year in the week. Those
    who are working would wish to use their leave between March and October. Those that are able to will be older couples or singles. How much should they reduce prices by and would it have a great increase in uptake? If they reduced it to £13 they would probably
    need a 25% increase in usage to make it break even.

    They could trial it but they have in the past had mid week discounts and I wonder if that made much difference? 

  • JVB66
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    edited October 2016 #218

    I have just read ,that the cc are offering kids for a pound on ,  i take it,   all open sites from Nov 2016 to March 2017

  • Tammygirl
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    edited October 2016 #219

    I have just read ,that the cc are offering kids for a pound on ,  i take it,   all open sites from Nov 2016 to March 2017

    No thanks not even if they give them away FREE Laughing

  • young thomas
    young thomas Club Member Posts: 11,357 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    edited October 2016 #220

    michael, a few metres of grey corrugated pipe to guide the water into the drain is a useful (and cheap and light) extra to carry.....

    re, the club having more sites.....yes they do....but the club doesnt have to change/develop every site in the same way...at the same time..

    not all of their sites will require the same attention...

    not to address an obvious issue just because it costs a bomb to do it at every site is a nonesense....just fix (at low cost) what needs fixing....where it needs fixing.

    also, when considering rolling out large, wide spread improvements, remember....the way to eat an elephant is in small pieces....Wink

    ..I notice that you carry an "extention" pipe to cater for the inadequately designed waste on your M/van, which your "mod" could have been incorperated in the build,  which as said before would save the thousands of pounds that is expected to be spent on
    all companies sites,Undecided

    here you go againSad

    i was actually talking to Michael about using the extension hose/pipe on a serviced pitch....

    i carry an extension hose when im on a serviced pitch (which i also was) however, i couldnt actually be bothered to use it and brought my waste home with me and dumped it here earlier...

    like any serviced pitch (even those at the club) the drain will be in a particular place....in this case, back left corner (if reversing on) front right corner (if driving on).....

    so, how is it possible for all caravans and MH to have a waste outlet that can be compatible with every site drain location?

    cc might be the same as our pitch was, i dont  know as i dont use club pitches.....the C&CC might use the opposite corner for all i know.

    tell me, do all caravans manage to 'plug in' to every sites' service drain due to some agreed international 'standard'?

    no....they all use an extension hose/pipe of some description.

    you seem to think that by having the MH or caravan outlet in one particular location on a van, this will miraculously line up with all site drain points.....as if its the van builders that have this wrong.

    so, what would happen if all the vans had their drains to (say) the back right corner, but the sites had not agreed on a matching 'standard' (which they havent)?

    also, vans come in different lengths and can park nose in or nose out, so it makes no difference to a 'std' drain if 'pitching' can be non-std....they'll still need that hose...

    so, regarding your favourite hobby horse, MHSPs, like it or not (and i really dont know why you get into such a lather about this one issue) the best way to be able to service the most vans in a simple fashion is to have a wide (but narrow) drain with he
    tle slope where any van can drop waste.

    again, its no use you spouting on about MH having a 'std' form of outlet if the sites being visited are all different in their designs.....your standard wouldnt match, and it wouldnt matter where the outlet was if you still had to get out and remove the
    heavy drain cover.

    so, in your opinion, which current van's waste disposal system matches your 'standard' so that we can all (including the manufacturers you accuse) see how to do it....Sad

     

  • EasyT
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    edited October 2016 #221

    And Breathe Winking

  • Fisherman
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    edited October 2016 #222

    Would just like to see the highly paid HO lot just use a bit of imagination in the pricing structure for once to  try and counteract the cheap deals available elsewhere off peak. No need to increase peak prices if they get more of  us back on CC sites.

  • young thomas
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    edited October 2016 #223

    And Breathe Winking

    i take your point, EasyHappy

    ....however, being thrifty with words doesnt cut it with JVB, ...i wanted to respond fully to his 'point'.

    sometimes its almost like we speak a different language...Undecided

  • briantimber
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    edited October 2016 #224

    BB, I've noticed that he does seem to target you more than others.....Surprised

  • Tammygirl
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    edited October 2016 #225

    Shouldn't worry to much about BB Brian, he thrives on it..Wink

  • JVB66
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    edited October 2016 #226

    And  BBoy  does take the "bait" so easely when its his "anorak" subjectWink

  • young thomas
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    edited October 2016 #227

    And  BBoy  does take the "bait" so easely when its his "anorak" subjectWink

    ...so, youre just 'trolling' are you....Undecided

  • huskydog
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    edited October 2016 #228

    Why is it when someone gives out good advice on a subject that they have a lot of knowledge of they are called an anorak??

  • loiner
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    edited October 2016 #229

    We have used Porthmadog 2015, and Wild Duck this year. Both times we have gone mid Sep. When you can book on a fully serviced pitch with fantastic toilet block {Porthmadog} for £11 per night. Wild Duck was not fully serviced, again you are paying less than
    a CL. We are not ones for the club house. It was nice to be able to call in for a drink, and on one evening we ate in the restaurant in the Wild Duck. The food was good. I think they are good value if used out of season. We are looking to try another for definate.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited October 2016 #230

    Well, don't try Seaview, Weymouth!

  • young thomas
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    edited October 2016 #231

    Well, don't try Seaview, Weymouth!

    certainly a long way from West Yorkshire....Wink