Have you lost TV CH 5

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CH 5 has recently moved freesat frequency. I first noticed the loss of this channel at home followed a few days later on my motorhome TV. Some set top boxes may correct themselves but I have read that TVs with inbuilt receivers won't and you will have to manually retune them. This was the case with both my home and motorhome sets. I was not aware this was going to happen and it was only through a search of the internet I found out what had happened and how to correct. Older TV sets can be difficult to change if you have to program in the new transponder frequency of 11307Mhz

If you are just missing CH 5 this is why. Sky customers should not be effected.

As an aside In the course of searching It was observed ITV is to shortly stop transmitting standard definition channels on freeview so if your TV won't receive HD channels you will lose these channels.

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  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited December 2022 #2

    In the 21st century having to view any TV in fuzzy vision is just crazy🤷🏻‍♂️. HD should be a base minimum, 2 or 4K the norm.

  • SteveL
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    edited December 2022 #3

    Fine at home, not always as good when away. Although our little Avtex receives the HD channels, unless you are in a good signal area they will break up. At the moment it is possible to switch to standard resolution, which is generally OK. Doesn’t look like that will be an option soon. Hopefully others won’t follow suit,

  • young thomas
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    edited December 2022 #4

    If you've access to wifi, either on site or by phone/mifi etc, then a cheap option is an Amazon Firestick of similar.

    live tv and catch-up available, including streams like Netflix and Prime TV, for these with older TVs where the above issue will only get worse, this might be the way to go.

    as long as a tv has an HDMI socket these little devices are great and inexpensive. Really simple to set up.

    the first one I bought a couple of years ago was about £35, I bought a second one for the van six months ago for around £20.

     

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited December 2022 #5

    It’s all possible, everything can be accommodated-it just needs the right attitude👍🏻

  • SteveL
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    edited December 2022 #6

    Nothing to do with attitude R2B. I realise, as YT helpfully points out, there are other options. However, whilst not that expensive, they are not zero cost. We aren’t that bothered with other than the basic channels while away and freeview has proved very reliable in most locations (not Altnaharra😂) to date. I suspect they want to free up the frequencies for something else and I suspect it inevitable that other providers will follow in the near future.

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited December 2022 #7

    It so is down to attitude👍🏻. An individuals attitude to fuzzy vision or crisp/clear pictures on the TV. Me? I’ll throw money at it all day long to get a good clear pic😊. Others not so. . .Differing attitudes see.

  • SteveL
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    edited December 2022 #8

    As the screen is only 16 inch, the HD 720p, unless you are reading text, on say a quiz show, it doesn’t make a whole lot of difference.

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited December 2022 #9

    If I watch TV whilst away then it’s because I want to watch something specifically not a boredom thing, it’s why I take a 22” TV. I find it hard to find anything to watch on CH5 mind🤔

  • peedee
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    edited December 2022 #10

    R2B CH5 has some good documentaries. I do have a Firestick but a good data signal is not always available and you really need an account with unlimited data to use it. Satellite TV is much more reliable.

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  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited December 2022 #11

    Plus motorway cops catching speeders😊

  • young thomas
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    edited December 2022 #12

    My aging (but lovely) Panasonic doesn't have an HD DTV tuner. I did check last night and Ch5 is still there and working.

    I don't use that tuner much as we have Sky and the Firestick.

    my bedroom tv is SD only but I'm sure Ch5 is still there, too.

    as it happens, the BBC2 HD channel on the Sky tv guide has been in 'slot 2' for ages, with BBC2 SD down in the 800 area, whereas BBC1 SD is in slot 1 and BBC1 HD down the list in the 800s.

    not only that, slot 3 is ITV1 HD, slot 4 is Ch4 HD and slot 5 is already Ch5 HD. These have been like this for as long as I can remember.

    we have 2 TVs in the van, one is non HD DTV and the other is HD DTV. I'll probably retune them tomorrow as we are out in the van for a couple of days, I'll check the Ch5 situation.

    I guess the DTV guide is just being aligned with other platforms?

    it may be that, on non HD DTV sets, Ch5 SD appears somewhere else in the list, way down the bottom end. I can't see Ch5 just being wiped out from tens of thousands of viewers at a stroke.

  • Lutz
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    edited December 2022 #13

    I've never seen the point of HD, let alone 2 or 4K unless maybe one has a giant screen. I've switched between HD and the equivalent non-HD channels on the TV that I've got in the caravan and never noticed any appreciable difference.

  • JVB66
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    edited December 2022 #14

    I have needed to do a retune on our Tv when we returned home last week as several channels had changed we get our digital TV from Sandy transmitter

  • peedee
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    edited December 2022 #15

    It is only on freesat that CH 5 changed and it is only on freeview that it is said ITV  SD channels will be removed. As yet no date has been mentioned for this to happen.

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  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited December 2022 #16

    That’s good for you & less expensive, I personally watch many wildlife programmes & enjoy 4K as it helps in telling a moving stoat from a weasel which isn’t that easy with fuzzy vision👍🏻

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited December 2022 #17

    ......but much depends on the quality of the TV set, Rocky. A poor set will only ever give a second rate picture while a quality set will let you enjoy the enhancements of HD or 4K.👍

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  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited December 2022 #19

    Good point👍🏻, I change my sets regularly as I’m a sucker for new tech. Neo QLEDs being the best right now👍🏻

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited December 2022 #20

    Cheers. I'll bear that in mind when I'm searching for a set later👍

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited December 2022 #21

    Surely that will mean the disappearance of local news on Freeview? If we watch the ITV News on the HD channel it is followed by the local news Meridian which covers the South/East of the country. If I swap over to SD I get Anglia (our area) so what will happen to the local news? 

    Even BBC is pulling back from Oxford and Cambridge in their local broadcasting. The trouble is that for us, with everything based in Norwich  I doubt we will get anywhere near as much news local to us here in MK?

    David

  • EmilysDad
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    edited December 2022 #22

     I can see the point ... HD is a much clearer & sharper picture. I can see the difference between HD & SD on our caravan's 20-something (24"??) screen and definitely see a difference at home on our 65" screen. 

    I can't comment on 2k or 4K

  • young thomas
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    edited December 2022 #23

    I think the key word there is 'appreciable'...perhaps some are able to see the difference...watching football, where the ball is small, it's better (for me) in HD.

    My son has a huge (60+ inch) tv with 4K ability and, when watching streamed World Cup on ITV Hub, it's really a fantastic picture.

  • peedee
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    edited December 2022 #24

    I assume it will all change to HD. On satellite i think ITV Anglia is HD only

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  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited December 2022 #25

    +1👍🏻. I have a set up in the Conservatory & watching Nature progs, sport or movies using earphones it’s spectacular. I have mine set at head height(sitting) it’s immersive👍🏻

  • SteveL
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    edited December 2022 #26

    I don’t have any argument that on our large TV at home, HD gives a way better picture and the 4K on some streamed Netflix noticeably sharper again. However,  on the small set we use in the MH I agree with Lutz

  • SteveL
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    edited December 2022 #27

    When we were in Scotland this year I noticed when on the HD channel the news didn’t go to the red screen at 6:30 but continued with the local news. Of course they only have one local news covering the whole of Scotland. However, I seem to recall on our red screen it says local programmes are not transmitted on this channel yet. Implying they are planning it.

  • peedee
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    edited December 2022 #28

    It is difficult to. find solid information about the closing of HD channels especially on freeview. Satellite channels are leading the way where ITV have already closed some of the smaller local region SD channels. BBC is expected to close all its satellite SD channels next year. Terrestrial freeview cannot be far behind.

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  • Tammygirl
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    edited December 2022 #29

    Thanks PD, that explains why I had to do a full retune of our MH TV on our way home through France as ch5 was missing. 

    SteveL in Scotland if you want regional news you have to be on Stv but not HD or you get Glasgow. 

    So if ITV channels are to go to HD does that mean ITV 2, 3, and 4. At the moment we only get these on normal not HD. 

    I like the HD at home on a big screen but in the van Like Lutz and SteveL it doesn't really make a difference. 

  • peedee
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    edited December 2022 #30

    It is difficult to. find solid information about the closing of HD channels especially on freeview.

    Of course the above should have read "closing of SD channels"

    TG, currently on freeview BBC has all services shown as being on both HD and SD but only ITV1 is shown as SD and HD whereas on freesat all of ITV and BBC services are shown as both SD and HD channels. I have not checked all the satellite HD channels but some appear to being readied for the changes as they are not yet live.

    See:

    https://www.lyngsat.com/Astra-2E-2F-2G.html

    and

    https://www.freeview.co.uk/corporate/platform-management/channel-listings-industry-professionals

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  • peedee
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    edited December 2022 #31

    Found >this article< which explains a lot.

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