Clean Air Greater Manchester

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  • KjellNN
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    edited January 2022 #182

    It seems flawed to me if no account is taken of how far you are driving within the zone.

    From what I have read, you can drive around all day, causing a lot of pollution, and pay £10 for the day,  but if the same vehicle travels only a couple of miles, for example to exit the zone, it will still cost £10.

    Have I read that correctly?

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited January 2022 #183

    I care way more about lives lost-I have priorities-lives trump money! Sorry but it’s a fact in my world🤷🏻‍♂️

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited January 2022 #184

    That is probably right, it is a heavy hammer for a small nail so to speak. The only fair way would be for all vehicles to have a TAG that recorded how far they travelled and were charged accordingly but we don't seem to be at that stage yet?

    David

  • Whittakerr
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    edited January 2022 #185

    It could be argued that motorhomes, being non essential and being used purely for leisure, should be charged more than similar sized vehicles carrying out essential journeys.  

  • JVB66
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    edited January 2022 #186

    Several cities are looking at a tourist tax Edinburgh and York? Which could be used as well the LEZ

  • Cornersteady
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    edited January 2022 #187

    I think the general idea is to keep you, or one, out in the first place?

    Also why would one do just that, a few miles I mean? In that were truly the case it would pay  to park outside the zone and walk or bus those few miles?

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    edited January 2022 #188
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  • Cornersteady
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    edited January 2022 #189

    Or perhaps get your MH serviced somewhere else. I would certainly not pay an £120 extra to  get it serviced. Yes sad for the dealer but if it saves one life it will be worth it. 

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited January 2022 #190

    +1👍🏻👏🏻👏🏻

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  • huskydog
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    edited January 2022 #192

    Can I ask when you will be buying your electric vehicle to help save the planet?

     

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited January 2022 #193

    It could be equally suggested you have that attitude to lives that are lost to pollution issues to save money-it works both ways. It’s serious & planet wide & needs addressing🤷🏻‍♂️☹️

  • Cornersteady
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    edited January 2022 #194

    On my list HD, probably about a year, but remember I'm not the one complaining about this new initiative. It won't affect me but I support it as I will support any in my area.

    Anyway more about quality of life than saving the planet in my view.

    Are you getting one HD? and how's the motorhome?  

  • Cornersteady
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    edited January 2022 #195

    As I said I support it and will support any in my area. Newcastle is currently discussing it. If it happens I'll gladly take the bus, or more likely train from the station 5 minutes away and be in the centre in 10 minutes from then. I can actually cycle in faster (in time) than cars at rush hour.

    And what tax? 

    But surely isn't someone's and their families heath and quality of life far more important than jobs or your 'tax'

  • JVB66
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    edited January 2022 #196

    Registration numbers? ,it seems to work for GLC as I was wanting to know how far into the GLC areas I could go ,and was advised by my reg number ,and it is a private plate

  • SteveL
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    edited January 2022 #197

    Yes, everywhere we stop in France adds on a tourist tax, not just cities. Now we are not in the EU we could even just charge the foreigners.😉

  • SteveL
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    edited February 2022 #198

    It would seem the start date has been put back because of the cost of living crisis.   LINK

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited February 2022 #199

    I think that there is a lot more to it than just the cost of living. This is the link to the BBC's article, but that is only part of reasons for the delay, more is to do with the slow uptake and production of electric vehicles.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-60263068

     

     

  • NutsyH
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    edited February 2022 #200

    Andy Burnham is specifically quoted as saying the delay is a result of many individuals and small businesses objecting to the implementation because they simply cannot afford to upgrade their vehicles. If he is going to wait until everyone has an electric vehicle, including vans  and HGV's...............won't be in my lifetime. He states that the implementation has been put back until, I think, 2024?

  • JVB66
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    edited February 2022 #201

     Cambridge were going to ban all ICE vehicles in the city centre a couple of years ago and that also seems to have been "forgotten" recently, as it seems the council have realised the infrastructure is not theresurprised

  • John Michael
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    edited February 2022 #202

    It doesn’t matter if it’s classed as commercial or motorhome, a euro5 diesel van will still pay the tax.

  • ScreenName8A5AAFCA47
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    edited September 2022 #203

    Not sure how money cleans the air 🤔

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited September 2022 #204

    Because it acts as a disincentive for people to take vehicles into any of the zones. Hopefully money raised is also used to promote and provide better public transport? Talk of Cambridge doing the same which could impact of both CMC and C&CC sites although at the moment it is only being considered.

    David

  • Fozzie
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    edited September 2022 #205

    Yet they allow all the new housing at Trumpington,near the CCC site,then they wonder why the air polution goes up.

  • JVB66
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    edited September 2022 #206

    I think Cambridge is also looking at a congestion charge of £5per day which could well cover Cherry Hinton. Cc site and the CCC site