Clean Air Greater Manchester
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I think that’s the point - to get older high polluting vehicles off the road.
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No pay-no play, buy a bike or trade to a less polluting vehicle all the options are there👍🏻
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At the moment aren't we all paying differing levels of VED anyway depending on how good or bad our car's emissions are?
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One might deduce therefore that it's OK to pollute so long as you can afford it. To my untutored eye, that seems to be the principle of 'carbon credits' as well.
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We don't pay it for our EV. I'd rather pay a tax for road usage than continue to pollute. We pay it on our motorhome and it's no doubt going to cost more the older the engine becomes. Our ev produces a tiny amount of particulates, mostly from the tyres on road surfaces. People are breathing in a variety of particulates, not good for any of us.
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I agree👍🏻, it’s similar to the banking system-‘of course we’ll give you a loan as long as we get all the money back & then some more. . .Or we’ll make you homeless’-welcome to the modern world CY.
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Well what a surprise I think I have got a range extender JVB, thank you for remninding me and it only produces minimum particulates when we occasionally fill it up with 8 PINTS of petrol...and that is why we don't pay VED.
(The REX is now "extinct" in Europe, unfortunately. It was a sensible solution to provide long range battery use but the better news is that most EVs are now up to speed on battery power.)Sorry let's get back to the things that do pollute!
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I was talking about road usage for all in the future when a solution has hopefully been found for pollution but taxes would still be needed to fund roads. But that is a long way off. Fuel duty pays the Gov well too so a return will need to be found from somewhere.
Initial outlay for an EV is set against minimal running costs.
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David, first of all, we haven't got a subsidised vehicle, so your comments although not personal are a bit wide of the mark. What people can afford is what they decide in relation to their personal finances. I note many company cars are now EVs and that will introduce people to their benefits. But I think encouragement is needed for some to use less polluting vehicles, these might not be EVs at present but at least the better engineered newer ice engines.
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It's not universal. My last tow car was an automatic Kia Sorento and my annual VED was approaching, and has now probably exceeded, £500 a year. My first motorhome which was not Euro six, my annual VED was around £245. I don't know what the relative emissions were but I doubt they were that far apart? This is relevant to this discussion because it seems motorhomes are being included in the zone charging but cars, that could be equally polluting are not being charged. As I mentioned in an earlier post it is likely that motorhomes have been lumped together with vehicles based on the same cab so perhaps there is a sort of logic but I can understand owners of motorhomes feeling they not being justly dealt with. If all vehicles were to be charged that is a different matter?
David
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Once more into the dock dear friends.....
No, I have aleady said that. Our car was a pre-reg car, we reduced the costs on purchase by this means and OH installed the charger so no help with that either (but it worked out cheaper.) All that glitters is not gold JVB....
I think cars for those with wheelchair access still receive the full subsidy, about £2500?
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Hey up, let's get back to the OP, please.
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That’s more than people with severe breathing difficulties can say 😣
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Maybe, maybe not, but that is no reason not to clean up the pollution caused by dirty engines.
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I would get one if I lived around Manchester due to the clean air plan(back on topic now see)👍🏻
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