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  • mickysf
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    edited April 2022 #392

    Unfortunately mere mortals, well some, are to blame for much of the very significant damage to our biosphere and environment within we witness today. You are right though, like Canute we can’t work against nature but we can work with it! That’s at the heart of this challenge and a challenge it is as a few are still in denial. 

  • SeasideBill
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    edited April 2022 #393

    I think we’re broadly in agreement, I was just trying to highlight the absurdity of the few who think going about shooting a few things is the solution (and I’m not talking about Putin!).

  • mickysf
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    edited April 2022 #394
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  • Fisherman
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    edited April 2022 #396

     Another report say that detrimentalto the Red Squirrel population. Not all roses it seems.I am lucky  there are some totally wild ones here.

  • eribaMotters
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    edited April 2022 #397

    One of the things I'll miss when we leave Formby on Merseyside for Devon is our red squirrels. Two of them can be seen most days in our garden.

    I should hopefully be able to attract some wildlife as we've bagged this at the side of the bungalow we are buying. 

     

    Colin.

  • mickysf
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    edited April 2022 #398

    And here is another rewilding/reintroduction success happening around the CAMC Stamford Top Lodge Site. Brilliant news just keeps coming!

     

     

    https://www.forestryengland.uk/fineshade-wood/chequered-skipper-butterflies?utm_campaign=wildlife_newsletter_070422&utm_medium=email&utm_source=wildlife_newsletter

  • mickysf
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  • mickysf
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    edited June 2022 #401

    This week our government is talking about the need to curtail land rewilding projects. More to the point is to address farming, marketing and exporting/importing practices. Air miles where many products are simply passing each other in transit around the globe is both nonsensical and damaging to our wildlife and planet.

    This well traveled plastic carton of pears now stocked by a UK supermarket near you and eaten in British homes. As they say our world has gone mad! 😡

     

     

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited June 2022 #402

    +1, lunacy Mickey boy😤😤. It goes to prove that what politicians say & what they actually do are far far apart, the climate conference was only 7 months ago🤷🏻‍♂️

  • mickysf
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    edited June 2022 #403

    Do you know what Rocky, it wouldn’t be a bad thing if some of the rewilding projects included some land utilised for the reintroduction of orchards. After all, these fruit trees were once common across the land and had many wildlife advantages. It’s about considerate farming practises.

  • Fisherman
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    edited June 2022 #404

    Some common sense at last. Cutting back the grandiose rewilding schemes on land not owned by the  huggers. Get growing our own food.Perhaps it shows that those of us with life long knowledge prevail over the  lefties and so called  cellebrities in the end.

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited June 2022 #405

    I think it shows those who refuse to evolve will always be out of step with the modern world. Humans no longer need to kill woolly Mammoths & drag em back to the cave Fish you need to accept we’re in the 21st century. . .Sorry but it’s a fact🤷🏻‍♂️🙁

  • Fisherman
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    edited June 2022 #406

    Where do these so called animals come into a discussion about proper use of land in a world that is experiencing food shortages and according to the doom mongers will get worse.All I am saying is that at last the government not the eco warriors are making decisions which will benefit all mankind. By all means wild corners of your garden,spare worthless land, like a lot of us are already doing. At the same time exercise our  "Apex"  being to bring control to a complex ecosystem.

  • mickysf
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    edited June 2022 #407

    Fish, it’s about working with nature, recognising the symbiosis that exists, not trying to eradicate it. The animals you talk of have no voice, it’s up to us to speak up for them ‘cos we will be doomed if the balance isn’t striven for. Governments can be ousted too when they are rotten to the core, out of touch with reality and full of self determination. Our future generations depend on us finding a way out of this whole mess. Some only see short term profit and self interests at heart. Rewilding has a significant part to play and is gathering pace despite this flawed attempt to persuade some otherwise.

  • Fisherman
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    edited June 2022 #408

    And there we have it.The difference between those of us with a lifetimes experience,living working and custodians of the countryside and those who come for a weeks holiday with knowledge from Edited TV  programmes like Springwatch.

  • mickysf
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    edited June 2022 #409

    Again you are quiet wrong, I’ve lived all my life in the countryside, as have my family, and I do recognise the complexity that some wish to ignore at all our peril. One should not jump to conclusions to justify incorrect claims!

  • Fisherman
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    edited June 2022 #410

    Agree to disagree

  • mickysf
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    edited June 2022 #411

    Lost me on that one, what fact is there to disagree with? I’m a country lad born and bred. One who recognises the need to acknowledge our place in the ecosystem and work with nature for the future of all. 

  • mickysf
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    edited June 2022 #412

    https://www.weare8.com/ Quiet is what we should not be but quite is what I meant!😉 We need to up the game against those who seek to upset the balance!

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited June 2022 #413

    95% of the land in this country is owned by 5% of its inhabitants(so I’ve read) it needs to be made accessible to the many & a safe haven for wildlife. It’s obscene that the land has been abused & rivers, streams poisoned. The unique chalk streams are being destroyed & with the destruction goes habitats & wildlife. It’s been the same attitude for centuries-make it work for all or lose it to those who really care👍🏻

  • Fisherman
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    edited June 2022 #414

    Ok there is a difference between those who live in the countryside and those like me who own a bit of it and has managed it for 70+ years. With that comes experience and responsibility.  Why dont you start by making yor garden a public space.

  • mickysf
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    edited June 2022 #415

    Fish, unless you don’t value wildlife, you do ensure that the natural balance is maintained and you recognise the need to maintain ecosystems for all flora and fauna within it, you don’t profit by or take pleasure in negative land use pursuits then I really don’t thing you have to concern yourself. It’s not those like me and you who in the grand scheme of things have minuscule land ownership that are the concern. It’s the big ‘boys’ and big businesses that profit deliberately from destruction and pollution. Take for example our very own waterways, the filthiest in Europe with fish stocks and life within them decimated. Pardon the pun but you and I are small fish. We need to protect the ecosystems from those others! We need to act now!

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited June 2022 #416

    I do, for charity👍🏻

  • Fisherman
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    edited June 2022 #417

    Bit like a cuckoo -"change its tune in the middle of June and then flies away".  If you read the papers most of the river polution is not by famrers but by the Water Companies.Likewise Industry is responsible for polutantants and bad gases. Legislation is thre but never used. Its a lot easier to blame farmers when your mouths are full.

  • JVB66
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    edited June 2022 #418

    There are good and bad in most of those that polute any areas ,not  just rivers but those who protest loudest are normally the most responsible for polution

  • brue
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    edited June 2022 #419

    Unfortunately it's true about water company pollution the public need to ask more questions and demand action. 

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited June 2022 #420

    Same old, Fish. No one can accuse you of changing your tune as you're consistent with your less than pleasant comments about others. 😤

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited June 2022 #421

    It is the fault of all industry, water companies & Farmers(some) must accept responsibility & make it right. Denial helps no one.