Rewilding

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  • mickysf
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    edited March 2022 #332

    Some encouraging news yesterday illustrating an enlightened landowner who is making a long term commitment starting small and growing the cause. See below

    https://www.scotsman.com/news/environment/pastures-new-for-scottish-cows-at-heart-of-trossachs-rewilding-project-3601780

    The embodied video is worth a view!

     

  • mickysf
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    edited March 2022 #333

    A small project in London hopes to improve the water system and encourage wildlife to return. The new inhabitants will be encouraged to ‘beaver’ away making the possibility of aquatic life to return and the prospect of Kingfishes also to set up residency. Rewilding begins here for this part of the capital. Excellent news.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10621721/Beavers-London-400-years-help-rewild-capital.html

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited March 2022 #334

    Hope they do the job that they are brought in to do. I will be good news of they do and also read some kittens too.

  • mickysf
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    edited March 2022 #335

    More fantastic rewilding news. 👍

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-60863563

     

  • Fisherman
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    edited March 2022 #336

    There are plenty of similar good news out there. However your definition of "rewilding" is very different to that of the zealots.

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited March 2022 #337

    I was just going to highlight that news too, micky, but was going to start a new post, as I didn't think of it as rewilding.

  • Wherenext
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    edited March 2022 #338

    I agree with your assessment Nellie. It's definitely good news but Bitterns hadn't actually died out in the UK, just nearly. 

    It's great to see them spreading out. This has been due to a concerted effort to restore the natural habitat and can be seen in many species.

  • Fisherman
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    edited March 2022 #339

    Glad we have some consensus on the definition of"rewilding"The bitterns are great news.Similarly the Ospreys did their own comebacks with little intervention..The Red Kites did not die out we had a few pairs here in Wales.Decline due to DDT usage we think and thanks to the Gurkhas (out of Brecon) the nests were protected from urban egg snatchers.Another great success when everyone got together. Looks like the help the Red Eagles in Scotland are getting by relocating some chicks is also bearing fruit. That is bringing them back to their previous locations. A lesson here perhaps for the way the IOW eagles were handled.

  • mickysf
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    edited March 2022 #340

    Anywhere which repurposes land with a view to encouraging and helping wildlife is in my book a rewilding effort. Even the humble back yard can help.
    Efforts like the Alkborough Flats Project which started long before the term rewilding had been heard, turned what was essentially farming land into flood land habits which were only accessible then to the shooting fraternity, is an excellent example of a larger project. Todays we see bitterns, avocets, spoonbills,  marsh harrier and short eared owls frequent amongst many other species where once little diversity existed. What a difference a mindset can make.

    Also, the ‘reseeding’ of species which previously existed but are capable of inhabiting once more is a facet of rewilding. The IOW WT eagles is a project in its infancy but one which has the potential, given help, to succeed. There are examples of these birds living happily along side people in similar locations elsewhere in the world.

    ‘Reseeding’  has also worked with cranes, storks and bustards. Time and effort will tell!

  • mickysf
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    edited March 2022 #341

    Some more very good news in last couple of days.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-60822518

    Hope springs eternal. 👍

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited March 2022 #342

    Excellent link Micky boy thanks👍🏻. Geez they enjoy traveling that’s for sure, fascinating👍🏻👏🏻👏🏻

  • ADP1963
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    edited March 2022 #343

     +1

  • mickysf
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    edited March 2022 #344

    They do Rocky. WT eagles roam far and wide and cover great distances particularly in their adolescent years. They also have a tendency to return to their natal environment, often when ready to first breed. These Isle of White birds are doing exactly what was and is predicted of them. As a result of their reintroduction to the Isle of White, whilst still in their natal developmental stage, means we can now see these birds wondering across England and the wider UK where few if any have in recent decades. Absolutely wonderful to witness now and hopefully this will become more frequently observed and much as a result of the project.
    Where pairs finally decided to breed, as we all hope they will, is irrelevant really. The fact that they are now around in the English skies is a tribute and a real success story.

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited March 2022 #345

    The whole team should be justifiably proud of the success story👏🏻👏🏻

  • mickysf
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    edited March 2022 #346

    I’m sure there will be those tidy mown to a millimetre cynics but this small difference in practice can make a huge difference for our wildlife and may even save money. 

    https://planetradio.co.uk/greatest-hits/salisbury/news/new-wildflower-areas-rewilding-to-improve-wiltshire-biodiversity/

     Rewilding helps! Even those little projects!

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited March 2022 #347

    Excellent news, micky, but why didn't you put it in the White-Tailed Eagle thread?wink laughing

  • mickysf
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    edited March 2022 #348

    Whoops, should have, I’ll do it now!

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited March 2022 #349

    I just didn't want certain persons jumping in with inappropriate comments, micky. Thanks.😄

  • mickysf
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    edited March 2022 #350

    No, it was a totally valid point, one I’d overlooked. The rewilding agenda covers lots of projects both small and large. 

    Here’s another very interesting study and research into rewilding woodland areas.


    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-60617810

    A very interesting and informative piece of research and action. 

     

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited March 2022 #351

    Yes, very interesting. I read that one too and hope they have success with the planting, but I doubt that most of us won't know how successful it turned out to be.

  • mickysf
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    edited March 2022 #352

    Wonderful project here

    https://wildhaweswater.co.uk/2022/02/20/a-vision-of-haweswaters-future/

    You never know, the Golden Eagles may also return.

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited March 2022 #353

    Here's hoping, Mickey

  • Wherenext
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    edited March 2022 #354

    I remember taking long trips in mid 1970s to try to see the Golden Eagle pair in the Lakes without success on more than one occasion. Be nice if they could find a remote place to breed there again.

  • Fisherman
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    edited April 2022 #355

    Not much chance in the Lakes,so busy you haveto line up by numbers to cross a style.

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited April 2022 #356

    I guess that is a tongue in cheek comment, or that you have never properly suited the LD. There are many places where one can get away from "the madding crowd", also there are not that many stiles on the fells either, they are more a lowland phenomena.

  • Wherenext
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    edited April 2022 #357

    There are plenty of areas around Shap that are rarely visited by a tourist. Unfortunately having a pair of breeding Golden Eagles anywhere in the LD will in itself become a tourist attraction for quite a few willing to access even remote places.

    In the 70s they had to be constantly monitored to try to deter egg collectors but I can't remember whether the egg collectors won or the birds themselves stopped breeding for natural reasons.

  • Fisherman
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    edited April 2022 #358

    Tramped the high fells with Blencartha Hunt for years

  • mickysf
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    edited April 2022 #359

    Having lived and worked at Fellside walking in the Fells surrounding Dale Beck and you could walk all day and not see a soul. There are many corners of the Lakes where something approaching solitude can be found. North of Blencathra, or Saddleback as the locals call it, is one of these areas but not the only one.

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited April 2022 #360

    Rewilding is being done naturally in Keswick MSF, the Blencathra hunt was banned from meeting in Keswick on Boxing Day last year. More & more are accepting the 21st century is no place to kill wild animals for fun. The less hunts the more rewilding👏🏻👏🏻👍🏻

  • Cornersteady
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    edited April 2022 #361

    Having done a lot over the years and indeed many since retirement I can't think of any queues or lining up at a stile to cross it. And has been said plenty of fells where you see no one on the entire trip. Yes the 'top four' attract a fair few but last year when I did Skiddaw from the Blencathra centre and we went up by Skiddaw House and returned via Bakestall and apart from the summit ridge we saw no one, and even then one of the shelters was available for lunch and that was mid August