Rewilding
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If you want to see beauty laid waste by crowds check Mount Snowden☹️. Ruination of a strikingly beautiful area.
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But us hardy lot are few and far between. The hordes follow the easy routes and any highlights they find onTwitter., hence the tranquility you get in the odd out of the way places left. Its the same here. They queue up for ages to get a selfie on Snowdon, but 10 miles away you get the mountains to yourself. Like you I am in my 80's and still get out most days to the tops. As for genuine mountain hunting ( nothing like the twits on horseback) its tradition, fabric of rural life and an effective wayof vermin control.
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Yes that is too true as well Rocky.
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To see vermin go out with a lambing farmer and see what a fox and badger leaves behind. Whichever way you put it humans are the controlling factors today. You need reason,experience and an insight into country life to use that effectively. Thats what we with decades of expeience do. To a city dweller I expect Rats are their vermin
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To see vermin, visit the coast and look up, but keep an eye on your ice cream & chips.
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Hardly sporting and fun should never enter the equation should it!
Exactly.
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Same old, Fish. You seem to have a chip on your shoulder about country folk vs city dwellers. It's not as black and white as that and others do exist. We don't all live in either/or locations and good and bad exist in all societies.
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Yes, same here during lockdown. I think they rediscovered the delights of seafood platter.
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There you go mick.Biased as usual.If you read my posts you will see I emphasise,control not eradication.Its achieving a balance so all can thrive. Look at Curlews and lapwings. Its fact that they are losing ground and its fact that its the result of predation by foxes and covid. Where there is control of these they thrive. I dont suppose that fits in with your blinkered view.
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It’s very hard to know who you are addressing in your posts, Fish, as you don’t quote the post you are replying to but if this one is addressed to me, I have not asked for any examples.
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Not at all, I don’t disagree that control is needed, if you read my posts, I say where absolutely necessary and where it helps redress the natural balance and helps endangered species. It’s the methods used after all other attempts have been made to control these pressures. Man’s actions have created much of this imbalance and some of this resulted from selfish actions. It’s how we achieve that balance that is important. It’s challenging I know but achievable if we put that right mind to it but none of the methods should involve fun or ritual!
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Very encouraging news today regarding one of our oldest rewilding projects. This research and data should go on to inform other present and future efforts across the UK.
https://www.independent.co.uk/climate-change/news/knepp-estate-imperial-college-london-west-sussex-london-zoo-university-of-sussex-b2049076.htmlThe future is looking promising.
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If it wasn't for human intervention in the first instance there would be no need for a rewilding programme. We as a race are what has caused the loss of those long established inhabitants this country that were here before we came along. Some are trying to put right the wrongs that have been done in the name of advancement of our race.
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Look at Curlews and lapwings. Its fact that they are losing ground and its fact that its the result of predation by foxes and covid. Where there is control of these they thrive. I dont suppose that fits in with your blinkered view.
Strange then that those birds have existed in this country for as long as there have been foxes and covids, living in a balance with them, I would think. The "control" by man had nothing to do with their co-existance.
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Nellie past mistakes were made mostly by titled, wealthy and business magnates. By using control we now try to achieve a sensible balance for all to survive. The fox population is out of control here in rural wales as our means of control has been restricted. Not talking about louts on horeseback. Another problem is relocation of city foxes. We shot 14 the other day in one location many with mange,in two hours.Not natural.What would have been the outcome for other birds and animals if we had not intervened.
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There seems to be two different snarios here.We have what I would call "reclamation".Carried out very succesfully by Wildlife trusts and others as shown above.Likewise the transformation of thye South Wales coaltips and North Wales slate heaps. Plenty of other examples. We then have " rewilding". The imposition of the introduction of species on land not owned by the partiicipants. This is of course a " country" problem
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It could be argued that the ‘control’ and sterilisation of what were once natural habitats in preference for game birds, some non native introductions, has in actual fact caused much of that imbalance of prey predators. The efforts to restore habitats will do much to help. This is what rewinding is about. Start at the root of the issue and develop upwards. Good stuff is being done and mind sets are changing. There are some very enlightened landowners who are doing sterling work in this ‘field’!
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The brain is a very clever thing-I read rewilding👍🏻😊
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Very interesting views on this thread, but surely anyone who mentions or favours control is part of the resulting problems. Nature has it's own way of squaring things up. I am no different to others I favour certain species of wildlife and have done and do things to support those specie.................but am I right in doing so ?. Probably down the line nature would have sorted it out anyway.
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Isn't rewinding and rewinding effectively the same thing?
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Absolutely, all these folks who think they’re making a difference will come to realise the futility of it all when nature bites them on the bum!
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That damage was done years ago by the few and now the rewilders are healing those bum bites on parts of our spoilt Britain. And it is working! The rewilding agenda is about the future environment and climate. The latter another cock up of worrying concern!
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I like the "Plant a tree for the Jubilee" scheme this year. Anyone doing this? I was glad to see CAMC joining in with the idea. Sometimes I think "re-wilding" is just a fashionable word and we need to concentrate on habitats closer to home.
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Mere mortals may play a small part and make some difference at the margins and good luck to them. But, the unpredictability, complexity, power and interaction of natural forces are in an altogether different league. King Canute comes to mind. 😉
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