New Site Booking System
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So because you couldn't book the dates you wanted did you presume someone must have booked them knowing they would cancel ie speculative booking it was more likely another of the many reasons and just tough luck you couldn't get the dates as happens to me sometimes, it seems to me a very emotional term "subject speculative booking" but no certain evidence has been shown for just how common it is.
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If they resell some or not ,that is not the point
Members that have abused the present system have caused the club to change the booking system0 -
You miss the point entirely, by the clubs own reckoning, at least approx. 25% of those forward bookings are speculative and will be cancelled
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"In a normal year, we often see over 25% of all bookings being cancelled"
Where is the word 'speculative'?🤷🏻♂️
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I think you miss the point entirely. Nobody knows how many of those 25% were legitimate cancellations. ( my definition for that is they fully intended to go but unforeseen circumstances intervened) I also seriously doubt that the £25 deposit that will be required for a weekend will have any affect on cancellations for weather conditions etc. Given the overall cost inc fuel, those with a mind to cancel will still do so.
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Yes agree on that.
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Maybe, perhaps, but no firm evidence of that is there? We also have no idea of how many members did?
Or perhaps the club liked the idea of all that up-front money either earning interest somewhere for possibly a year in advance or there for more immediate purchases?
But to my mind arguing about what caused the change is academic speculation at best or just a waste of time at worst. It has happened.
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As you can imagine, a lot of members all cancelling a few times a year soon adds up! After reviewing the market, speaking to members and looking at other campsite providers the best solution to reduce speculative bookings is to introduce a deposit system. This will reduce the number of speculative bookings and create more availability for members.
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Bearing in mind that the 25% who cancel represent 950,000 cancelled nights it doesn't matter whether they are "legitimate" or not, this is a huge amount to deal with especially when the club states that a quarter of these are within four days of arrival.
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removed by me
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I think what is being asked is - where is any reference to that 25% of cancellations being speculative, or what % of that 25% is speculative.
Again debate what was the cause, and I suppose why am I
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I'm getting dizzy reading this
JK
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I suggest people start doing the sums involved, eg 950,000 x £25 (at least) will bring in revenue to the club. At present there is no security of income for the club whilst people enjoy using the system to their own advantage even by legitimate means.
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...so I booked really early and selected two dates...
BB, without any ulterior motive or trying to imply anything or 'score' anything, and nor will I ever quote you on your answer, will the new system change your future bookings in the way you describe? If one booking is only going to cost you say £25 would you still do it? I understand if you don't want to answer and won't say you didn't - promise!
I have said that £25 for me isn't that much to lose for me personally and in towing some of that would be use in fuel and snacks stops along the way, never mind all the pub grub while away.
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Yep, my point upthread.
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But to my mind arguing about what caused the change is academic speculation at best or just a waste of time at worst. It has happened.
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It's academic as it's in the past, the new system is here and while it's mildly fun to speculate about what caused it it's here and talking about what possibly caused it won't change that.
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But that is not the same at all as saying 25% of bookings which are subsequently cancelled are speculative. We know cancellations ran at 25% but we do not know what proportion of that 25% was speculative. That is the huge point you are missing by a country mile!
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It is irrelevant if it is past the present if it is base on actual data at the time
No to mention tht new system is not operating as yet
Neither is it what possibly caused the changed , for god sake 25% is a huge figure0 -
What part of 25% of all bookings where cancelled do you not understand ?
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If the Caravan and camping club, and commercial sites is anything to go by, speculative booking will reduce considerably dramatically
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I wish I could answer that.
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But is 25% on cancellations good, bad or average for a club of this size?
Who cares?
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Please stop being rude.
You have continually said that the 25% of bookings which are cancelled are speculative. They are not. 25% of bookings were often cancelled. That is not the same as saying they were all speculative. Nobody knows how many were speculative.
You didn’t take my earlier advice to re-read statements and posts so I am going to cease trying to make you see the facts.
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The near full sites could be because pitches were re-let, Arch. If so, it means the club didn’t lose revenue.
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Yes, that’s the crux of the matter. It’s all about £££ in the till.
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