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  • Rufs
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    edited January 2022 #2072

    "Finger pointing at individuals and particular nations achieves absolutely nothing"

    agree, leaders are damned if they do and damned if they dont, but have to congratulate MACRON when he said he hoped he "was pissing anti vaxxers off"

    just had a friend, French, return from France, anti vaxxer, said it was like living in Nazi Germany in France just now as an anti vaxxer, me thinks we should be doing something similar, undecided 

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    edited January 2022 #2074
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  • JVB66
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    edited January 2022 #2075

    Was he also navigating ?a rubber dingysealed

  • Rufs
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    edited January 2022 #2076

    "Please convey my comments to your friend Rufs if you wish"

    thank you, but no need, my retort, although not put as eloquently as yours, was more than sufficient to ensure he got the point as to how obnoxious his comments were, and he knows my feelings re anti vaxxers

  • Rufs
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    edited January 2022 #2077

    ah! ah!, if wit was, I am sure you know the punch line laughing

  • Rufs
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    edited January 2022 #2078

    Well After more than four years of Nazi occupation, i guess being French, 70+ years, and I am sure his family relating to him as a young boy  the horrors of those 4 years together with what is in the history books, I would say he has a very good knowledge. undecided

  • kenexton
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    edited January 2022 #2080

    TDA the good news for we who have stinking  colds but have been vaccinated is;rhinovirus outcompetes SARS Covid(hence" common cold")so, paradoxically,our chances of catching Omicron are?apparently,lessened by having a cold.Every cloud....

     

     

     

  • Bakers2
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    edited January 2022 #2081

    Well I don't know how accurate that is - but I'll take it. We too have had, OH still has the tale end, a gifted a heavy cold. Similar to takethedogalong not something we generally have these days. Tested continually, very short of LFT as a result but I really hope that is the case.

  • Wherenext
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    edited January 2022 #2082

    Anybody got a cold they want to share?laughing

  • kenexton
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    edited January 2022 #2083

    I read about in a BBC report of research by Glasgow University.If the BBC have reported it, then it must be true........?

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited January 2022 #2084

    Achooo……..🤧 There you are😁 

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  • Tinwheeler
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    edited January 2022 #2086

    Meanwhile, a poor man in Devon has contracted bird flu from his chickens and ducks. He’s called Alan Gosling and, yes, it’s on the BBC.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cornwall-59909586

     

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  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited January 2022 #2088

    It’s not over yet-he may yet have his rejection reimposed due to his no vax status. I think they will do more harm by giving in to him than letting him stay. If I was an Aussie I’d be out there countering these we love Serbia types-the types that left the Serbia they love so much to live in Australia🤷🏻‍♂️🙄

  • free2419
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    edited January 2022 #2089

    Rules are rules stick to them 

  • Whittakerr
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    edited January 2022 #2090

    I thought it ironic that one news report I heard stated he was not allowed in his Australian layers offices as they had a no vax no admittance policy.undecided

  • JVB66
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    edited January 2022 #2091

    I am glad to note that the Australian immigration rules are not at this time , going to be "relaxed?" because of whoever he is, and the it seems by reports and evidence "fake covid"infection 

  • ABM
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    edited January 2022 #2092

     + 100 %  there Rocky

  • Tammygirl
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    edited January 2022 #2093

    It's certainly not consistent what he and his lawyers have been saying. Whichever way you look at it, they should stick to the rules and make an example me of the situation. Might just focus some of the anti vaxxers minds if someone as prominent as him is refused entry to a country.

    On the up side by BIL had his 4th jab on Monday smile

    On the down side our DIL and  grandchildren have still not been vaxed, our son has had all of his. Can't get through to her she should, even when I pointed out she can't go on holiday it made no difference. The eldest granddaughters ears pricked up though laughing

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  • DEBSC
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    edited January 2022 #2096

    That’s interesting TammyG. Which reasons is she giving? What does your son say about his children not being vaccinated? Difficult for you as you no doubt want to see them.

    IMO the Australians handled this badly by letting him in and then dragging their feet for so long. He made his choice and should expect the consequences, as should others, why should the rich and famous expect different treatment from the rest of us. I think many Australians will be glad of see him get on a plane.

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited January 2022 #2097

    We have a neice who is getting married this year, had what will be quite a big wedding booked from pre covid. Both Bride and Groom haven’t had a single jab yet, despite carefully worded suggestions from family. I do wonder what they will do if the hotel phones and wants to check their vaccination status. Apparently neither are anti vaxxer, so it does rather beg the question why are you @rsing about then. They have a small child as well. Her parents are so worried about them, both work in environments where they are in constant contact with others, of all ages.🤷‍♀️

  • LLM
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    edited January 2022 #2098

    I'm not surprised.  We are still getting a regular, but thankfully reducing, stream of people of all ages presenting for their first jab.  I've heard every reason imaginable for the delays and some beyond my imagination, but that's life.  

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited January 2022 #2099

    Some might find this Dr John Campbell video interesting https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UHvwWWcjYw Apparently there has been a Freedom of Information request for information on the number of deaths from COVID that were not due to other underlying health conditions or causes. This is a link to the ONS response to the request. https://www.ons.gov.uk/aboutus/transparencyandgovernance/freedomofinformationfoi/deathsfromcovid19withnootherunderlyingcauses?s=09 In the 18 months from March 2020 to September 2021 there have been just under 18000 deaths that fit into this category which contrasts with the official statistics of over 150000 COVID deaths since the start of the pandemic.  

    David

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited January 2022 #2100

    I’ve been following DrJ & Zoe’s Tim Spector since they began their YouTube journey. It’s no nonsense facts backed up by scientific studies from around the world. They both often contradict the Govt & call the Govt out for their slapdash attitude at times. Very, very trustworthy. He is where I got the Omicron facts from weeks ago as he was in touch with South African colleagues. I posted it & was called out for being over optimistic🤷🏻‍♂️
    it has now come to pass👍🏻

  • brue
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    edited January 2022 #2101

    I presume the 18,000 are part of the whole 150,000 so I'm not sure what can be learned from that except 18,000 healthy individuals succumbed which is the size of somewhere like Ripon in Yorks, a bit more in fact. And the remaining number about half the population of your town David, Milton Keynes? Sad figures when looked into on a personal level. 

    I suspect statistics like these are variable and all sorts of facts will eventually emerge from them with age as a common part?