New Site Booking System

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  • young thomas
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    edited December 2021 #332

    ...and no toilet keys either....

  • JVB66
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    edited December 2021 #333

    No disabled needing a radar key,?

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  • JVB66
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    edited December 2021 #335

    Apart from radar keys for the less mobile members facilities  I have not noted locks on sites that do not have problems with other than site users

  • young thomas
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    edited December 2021 #336

    I don't go in 'disabled toilets' so I don't know...but if, like you, someone had their own key then no problem...nor would it be if they were left unlocked like the mail facilities...folk just go into whichever area they feel they need to...

  • KjellNN
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    edited December 2021 #337

    Unfortunately BB, there are a minority of perfectly able-bodied people who would take advantage of an unlocked disabled room, and possibly leave a disabled person in distress.

    On sites, many disabled rooms also double as family bathrooms, and contain the full range of facilities, thus providing a user with their own all-in-one bathroom.

  • JVB66
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    edited December 2021 #338

    On a site in East Anglia my OH wanted the facilities as she now needs support  to help her,,at this site I took her to the facilities ,,where I normally wait outside for her ,with the radar key to get access if needed.  she has instructions not to lift the inside handle to lock the door,

    On this occasion  it was in use already ,another lady offered to take her to the assisted toilet in the ladies toilets. ,while I waited outside

    While waiting a Young couple came out of the facilities that showed in use.

    The woman said they always showered together and they got the radar key on line to give them accessyell

  • JVB66
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    edited December 2021 #339

    Have not yet found a disabled room that also doubles as a family room alsosurprised

  • JVB66
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    edited December 2021 #340

    They leave post boxes open as well?surprised

  • young thomas
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    edited December 2021 #341

    You may be right, Kjell...obviously not my specialist subject...easy enough for any site to give a 'secret' combination or special key to interested members..

    however, as mentioned unthread, shouldn't we be using as much technology to limit contact on entry if all details are with the club and the booking has been prepaid?

  • SteveL
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    edited December 2021 #342

    I think the big mistake they are making, is not making automatic balance payment compulsory. The C&CC have throughout covid, then everyone could pull up outside reception, be given a map and welcome pack  if required, instructions if required and sent on there way. What is going to stall the system are folk who have to go in and pay, causing a blockage on many sites.

  • JollyKernow
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    edited December 2021 #343

    Steve, there will always be some people who want to pay by cash or other means, I reckon just on my site this season around 30% of our arrivals paid by cash or vouchers

    JK

  • JollyKernow
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    edited December 2021 #344

     Sssshhhhhhwink

    JK

    No electric meters thoughyell

  • moulesy
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    edited December 2021 #345

    Just a point regarding the use of disabled toilets/showers - remember that not all disabilities are obvious or visible. Just because a couple are young or an individual may appear to be able bodied does not necessarily mean they have no reason to use the facilities, nor that they should be expected to explain why they are using them.

    I'm sure there are occasions when they are misused, but sometimes folk are too ready to jump to conclusions - just saying!

  • N1805
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    edited December 2021 #346

    With reference to ANPR earlier in this thread.  Using Technology seems to be something we are becoming more reliant on but unfortunately it is not 100 per cent fool-proof, it can malfunction. 

    ANPR specifically if/when used on sites only matches the vehicle numberplate to the booking the site has as far as I am aware.  I don’t think it confirms whom is driving onto site or how many occupants are in the LV.  Something which I would think is relevant with regard to a possible incident eg fire.

    Thanks JK for giving CT users info. Good to see your comment on page 33 (I think) “There won't be any bypassing the check in. Prepayment will just make it a bit swifter. If you just drove in how would we know who's on site and where and when? We are working on other ways to get everyone in in a timely fashion”

  • KjellNN
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    edited December 2021 #347

    You may be right as far as most CAMC sites are concerned, but "other sites are available" .

     Have seen it on quite a few CCC sites.  We also found it at Crystal Palace and Whitewater Park, but it was a while back.

    OH prefers to use our own shower these days, as long as I am agreeable to fetching the water!

  • JVB66
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    edited December 2021 #348

    I so agree not all disabilties are obvious   but then ,there are those who seem to readily admit their modus operendisurprised

  • moulesy
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    edited December 2021 #349

    What they may be "admitting" as their "modus operendi (sic)" may just be to avoid the possibility of having an embarrassing conversation about their true reasons, JVB. Please don't rush to judgement. 

  • JVB66
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    edited December 2021 #350

    A couple of ANPR  "problems?"t hat I have been told of 

     1. unless as those used by government agency's they are calibrated   they are not accurate found that out at a Tesco Car park

    2  some of them will not read number plates that the letters and numbers are not correctly spaced as per it seems many private plates

     

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  • DavidKlyne
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    edited December 2021 #352

    I am not sure it should be an option. How will people pay a deposit, not by cash or vouchers? OK  I accept that vouchers are a different matter but giving people the option to pay (by any other means other than vouchers) will encourage them to do so. Surely one of the main points of the new system is to speed things up? I would have thought you wardens would also want to discourage cash as it creates more work by  having to bank it. There is also the security aspect as well. 

    David

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited December 2021 #353

    Of course there will be hiccups and anomalies requiring staff intervention but that’s no reason not to use them on campsites where we're not talking about a fine for staying too long! Some sites already use them very successfully - The Old Oaks at Glastonbury is one that springs readily to mind. 

     

  • JVB66
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    edited December 2021 #354

    Although I am entitled to a blue badge MI have never had one,since OH has had some health problems, 

    Both some doctors and nurses and health workers have told me that I must apply fo a blue badge as it will make it easier for both of us when finding parking with space for me to assist OH

    I was given a direct number to our County Council blue badge dept with a code which  would make for faster to have one allocated to us. ,the reason? Blue badges are in very High Demand and applications can take up to three months to be processed surprised

  • brue
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    edited December 2021 #355

    I've been impressed by the C&CC entrance system. Much easier and less challenging...especially if, as in the past, you get behind someone in the office who wants details about anything and everything. 

  • SteveL
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    edited December 2021 #356

    Totally agree. There is little incentive to pay the day before arrival if you are going to be stuck in a queue of 30% paying by cash. 

  • JVB66
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    edited December 2021 #357

    In these times of the covid virus  most establishments discourage the use of cash,

    At our coop the other day was eight pence short after using a voucher, I paid  on our credit card ,as that is all had with. mesurprised

  • young thomas
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    edited December 2021 #358

    Me too. If we are moving towards a pay deposit upfront and option to pay balance the night before then one of the benefits has to be speedier checking in.

    Allowing cash in the office will soon slow things back up...

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited December 2021 #359

    It didn’t used to be the case AD, and there are still one or two without barriers, (Marazion, Bromyard I think, Nunnykirk, Leyburn) But some Sites do suffer the occasional Traveller invasion, and you do get the odd idiot rolling up to do a circuit, so, it’s no surprise places like Ferry Meadows are barriered. Very sad. Once the undesirables get onto the Site, word goes out and others head in. Some CLs are quite vulnerable as well, rural crime is at epidemic levels. Again a sign of the times we live in sadly.

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  • peedee
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    edited December 2021 #361

    I would have thought you wardens would also want to discourage cash as it creates more work by having to bank it. There is also the security aspect as well.

    It is also not good COVID practice. Most establishment are discuouraging cash usage with some stating cards only will be accepted..

    peedee