UK sites with metered electricity
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I was reading an article the other day about 'Green' electricity it claimed that 'Wind' power isn't as green as we think. The claim was that the blades are made of Fibreglass which is the worst material to recycle so has to be put into landfill.
I'm not sure if this is true or not but if it is, then that's a lot of landfill going to be required. Which does reduce the 'green' credentials somewhat.
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Although this is nothing much to do with sites or meters, as brue touched on above, we as a world population have started moving away from the power generation and use of the recent past towards new ways, although the new ways are as yet unknown. "May you live in interesting times".
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The blades also last between 20 and 30 years in use. There is quite a lot of research going on at the moment of how they can recycle old blades so they don't have to go to landfill. Its probably a case of technology needing to catch up. I don't know if it would be any better but could they use carbon fibre? It seems to work strength wise in F1 cars? Perhaps they would last longer?
David
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Carbon fibre, whilst stronger, has a finite life. In my limited knowledge of the material, when used in sails, has increased performance but disintegrates without warning after a period of time. Same disposal problems as GRP.
Wave power is, as has been pointed out, wind dependant. Tidal power is regular and predictable and available progressively around our coast 24/7/365. We aren't investing enough in it. Major rivers also have current flow that can be harnessed. We seem to have learned nothing from history.
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Our EV is made from carbon fibre but it does have an aluminium chassis. Carbon fibre can be recycled and it's very strong. (I hope you're wrong about it disintegrating without warning....
)Tidal power is something to think about....but I don't think CAMC can do much about that on sites....
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Some use by date wind generator blades have been used to partially shore up some land slips on railway banks
just a bit more info for those interested
A battery pack to give the same energy as a typical deisel rail passenger vehicle would weight an extra 40 tonnes so doulbe the weight of each vehicle
A proposed Hydrogen passenger train would need a quarter of its interiaor space to store the compressed hydrogen
Storing compressed hydrogen for a freight locomotive would take up more space than the size of the current largest locomotive
A battery freight locomotive would require batteries weighing 350 tonnes for the same range and performance as present to maintain timetables
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So the Scotsman wouldn't be flying then?
JK
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Originally built in 1980 for London Underground, so nice bit of recycling going on there.
The heritage railway at Warcop does trips in an ex-Southern Region electric multiple unit running on its normal shunting battery packs.
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Indeed it will PD, so £2 million to put in meters across all club sites. Not going to happen is it?
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I put this in the CL thread but it really belongs here:-
Posted on 22/11/2021 12:21 by Cornersteady
Did you read the implied costs there PD at all?The installation costs look to be around £1K for a CL
I'm sure you do do the sum and work out the cost for all the club's 10,000 pitches? I get £2 million pounds.
even ignoring the opportunity to implement changes when sites are being upgraded/refurbished.
I think that is just a non starter, you can't have one site on meters, or part of a site on meters, and the rest not in my view?
I think you will just have to accept that the club isn't going to install meters no matter how many times you post about it.
I’m not particularly keen on the idea of meters, however if when a site was refurbished part or all of the meters were due for replacement anyway, the costs would be reduced. I would also expect some reduction for scale.
I also don’t see why one site couldn’t be metered, whilst the others continue as they are. Clearly there would be a price difference, as there are between different sites now. If we are going down the line of surface type booking, it would even be possible to do part of the site. You could either book a site with a meter or a standard EHU pitch. Again there would be a price difference.
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Does it really PD, I'll take your word for it.
Yes and to good effect, better pitches, better toilets, better facilities, newer building, newer approach roads, better play facilities, better dog walks, better disabled facilities, family, better plat rooms washrooms... The key word is better all round. All to enjoy our stay better.
yes the money is there but I can't see how spending on meters rather than things that make our, or the many that choose club sites, stay more enjoyable?
The shower block needs a good upgrade? Never mind we have meters
It's all about having a good holiday?
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I'll repost my answer her as well then
Well maybe but I can't see having meters on part of the site or one site metered and the the rest no.
I don't think that many people given a choice will choose meters, not the typical club site user anyway.
I have posted that not having EHU is a better option, or using any refurbishment money to be spent on things like solar panels.
Anyway academic as it's not going to happen soon.
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Meters would introduce "no-EHU" to the pitches they monitor. (Unless the super new booking system is set up to give every EHU pitch a basic daily amount included)
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Does it really PD, I'll take your word for it.
Blimey that makes a change Corners
Yes and to good effect, better pitches, better toilets, better facilities, newer building, newer approach roads, better play facilities, better dog walks, better disabled facilities, family, better plat rooms washrooms... The key word is better all round. All to enjoy our stay better.
But Club sites are, according to statements on here popular, and enjoy good pitch occupancy. Is there any real need for all these upgrades. I certainly don't need them to have a good holiday. What is off Club sites is what makes a good holiday for me.
peedee
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"What is off Club sites is what makes a good holiday for me."
So I guess you’re not really bothered about metering on club sites, PD, as they’re not places you want to be😂
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Yes there is, to keep to the standard of the sites and make them appealing. Note how a Cl owner had to upgrade to keep in business.
If you don't need all the club offers then why do you keep using them so much and why be so focused with getting meters installed on club sites? I recall a previous post where you said that number of club sites for you was quite high? Why not use those simpler sites and where meters are more common?
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Note how a Cl owner had to upgrade to keep in business.
CS That is just one CL owner's way of looking at it, there are many other CLs out there that have not had to upgrade to remains in business, as we find plenty that are full or nearly so when we visit.
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Excellent more choice all round. Still I found it interesting that they had to do it for whatever reason.
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the club could stop spending money on glamping pods, lodges or converting pitches to fully serviced to fund meters being installed.
Poole farm CL uses meters whereby anything more than 15units/day over your stay is payable. 3 weeks in April added about £20 to the stay (generous use of the Alde heating) 3 weeks in September with no additional charge.
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