New guidance re overseas travel
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Thank you👍🏻😊
PS-does it actually state that Covid is covered?
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Staysure's offer, copied from here: Staysure insurance for travel against FCO advice
Can I get travel insurance against FCDO advice?
If you need to travel to Europe but the Foreign Office (FCDO) advises against ‘all but essential travel’ to your destination because of COVID-19, we can help.Our European FCDO Travel Advice Extension add-on allows you to travel with cover, even when travelling against FCDO advice. So, you can visit Europe, Morocco, Tunisia, Turkey and Egypt with valid travel insurance.
All new policies (from 29 April 2021) with our European FCDO Travel Advice Extension add-on can cover you for:
Emergency medical expenses if you test positive and fall ill with COVID-19 on holiday (only if you’ve had the recommended COVID-19 vaccinations)
Up to £1,000 for additional accommodation and travel expenses if the FCDO advise travellers to return to the UK when abroad
Extra peace of mind starts from just £5 per policy, but may vary depending on your cover needs.
Check with them with a simple phone call about getting 'repatriation' for Covid19, in black and white.
Other companies offering cover against FCDO advice have similar clauses.
Our quote with Staysure, for a single ninety day trip (all we'll manage this year), for two over seventies, both with pre-existing conditions which are covered, was less than the cost of our insurance last year.0 -
Valda, thank you very much👍🏻. I walked away due to the jargon that I was sick of reading that ended up meaning-‘maybe, we’ll see, it should be ok, all things being equal’ I wanted a ‘yes we will repatriate you & cover any hospital costs but you must do xxx & have proof of these tests’. I don’t like mealy mouthed(in writing) policies. I realise it won’t be cheap that’s a given. Thank you again.
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Interesting to hear our esteemed Health Secretary (I use the word "esteemed" very loosely!) wriggling when asked about international travel in the Commons this afternoon.
It does seem to me that the safety of overseas travel at present relies on those who have been double vaccinated being unable to contract any variant of the virus or, worse still, transmit it. Since it's well documented that this is not the case I can see no justification for the present rush to get abroad.
Surely worth waiting an extra couple of months or so until, it seems, most of the rest of Europe at least will have caught up with our rates of vaccination.
The "amber list" is a nonsense and should be scrapped altogether (IMHO).
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When I had vaccinations for diphtheria, polio, mumps, measles, rubella, tetanus, hepatitis and influenza I didn’t stay at home until everyone else had those vaccinations too. So I’m not staying home and lying low till everyone else has had COVID vaccinations. It seems utterly irrelevant to wait for them.
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Well it's surely not utterly irrelevant is it? If waiting for a couple of months means that the area one is heading for has no greater risk than ones home then it seems to me that's worth waiting for. The problem with our highly successful vaccination programme is that it has made folk complacent. I haven't agreed with much of the way this government has handled things, but the vaccination programme and the call for just a little more caution now seems eminently sensible to me.
And don't get me wrong - we'd love to be travelling overseas again - we had a trip to Mexico pencilled in for February and we have 3 European holidays booked (one fully paid for) over the next 15 months, so please don't label me as one who has no wish or intention to travel again once it is safe to do so.
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Hi, my take on what I read is that Covid is covered except for cancellations.
The Nationwide website has lots of info and our account, Flex Plus, costs £13 a month and there is other cover that comes with it.
We have just booked for a cruise in October and that has a “Covid guarantee” that allows us to cancel/postpone/amend etc for free up to 28 days prior to departure which we are happy with.
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Hi David, It’s a Flex Plus, costs £13 month and comes with other cover including breakdown.
We opened the account when our travel insurance quote was more than the annual cost of the Nationwide account.
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“once it is safe to do so”
Hi, seems to me the only difference between you and euror is your idea of when it will be safe.
I am unsure what it is that another two months wait will resolve if you don’t agree with much of what has been done and feel the vaccines have made us complacent.
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The extra two months, according to reports, will allow the majority of European countries, at least, to have caught up with our rates of vaccination.
The complacency comes from the "I've been vaccinated so everything's hunky dory" frame of mind.
(You'll have noticed that I exempted the vaccination programme from my criticism of the government's handling of the pandemic.
)But of course, it's all just my take on things. Others will (almost certainly) disagree!
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Er ... 2 months time, that's the middle of August then? Surely peak season?
But good luck to you if you're going later in the year, and, believe it or not, I mean that. We're still hoping our trip to Greece at the end of September will be OK, but, like Allan's cruise, we do have the option to amend it if necessary (or get a refund if Greece is not on the Green list at the time.)
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Unfortunately the reason you have had a covid vaccination is because thousands of people have been dying from Covid and also suffering the long term complications. They still are in some places, Thailand, for instance, didn't have many cases and now has an outbreak with many unvaccinated people.
What are you waiting for then...a trip to somewhere like Thailand where you can pick up a mutated form of the virus and bring it back here? FT LINK
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Whoops, my words were meant to add to your comments, Rocky, and weren't addressed to you.
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No worries👍🏻🙂
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I hope you have better luck with your cruise than these folk. No idea how many passengers on board the MSC Seaside
A cruise ship on its way to Malta had to make last minutes changes after a passenger tested positive for COVID-19.
On Monday, the MSC Seaside, which was meant to stop here in transit, was not permitted to enter the Valletta Cruise Port. It had left Syracuse, Sicily, on June 1 for a seven-day tour around the Mediterranean.
The incident happened on the same day that Malta registered zero new cases for the first time in 11 months.
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A different scenario as when you received the inoculations many of your contemporaries had already had them (depending or your current age).
The biggest concern would be bringing an 'escape' variant to UK. Meanwhile discouraging vacations abroad means more spending on UK vacations and days out etc. I doubt many from Europe etc will be holidaying in UK
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I never know whether to put on the type of robust reply I used for another poster last night, however I felt it was justified in the light of the UK and World vaccination programmes. Other countries aren't so lucky as us, not just with vaccine production but also with resistance to or lack of political will or finances to set up reliable vaccine programmes.
Whether you are innoculated aginst Yellow Fever (which is Mosquito borne) or anything else I think Covid is presenting the bigger threat world wide at the moment.
Personally I think we need to give ourselves more time to sort this out and hopefully those not "tempted" will be given some respect for their decisions.
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I hope you have better luck with your cruise than these folk. No idea how many passengers on board the MSC Seaside
Well so do I Easy but, seeing as your post is in relation to ONE person on ONE ship having positive test, I wont cancel just yet.
The biggest concern would be bringing an 'escape' variant to UK. Meanwhile discouraging vacations abroad means more spending on UK vacations and days out etc. I doubt many from Europe etc will be holidaying in UK
An "escape variant"-what like Kent/Indian/Delta etc? Maybe any lack of visitors will be down to UK being seen as a tad too risky?
I have a stay in Darwen booked for mid July and that may turn into the riskiest thing we do until our cruise .
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You're missing a very important point. Yellow fever is caught from infected mosquitos not from fellow humans. You could become infected with yellow fever but you would be very unlikely (Impossible in some sources) to pass it on to someone and cause them to become very ill with it.
Unlike covid.
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I have lots of confidence in the vaccine. What I don’t have confidence in is that some members of the human race (vaccinated and unvaccinated) behave with due care and respect towards others, and will follow all protocol around testing, making the best decisions and committing to quarantine and keeping themselves and others as safe as possible. That’s why this blasted scenario is going on and on........
Not aimed at CT posters or Club Members, but society in general.
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I don't think there's any "lack of confidence" being shown in vaccination here is there, David?
Quite the opposite in fact - when other parts of the world (Europe and further afield) can match our progress it will be as safe to travel to those parts as it is to, say Southport!
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