Amenity blocks closed until 17th May

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  • Takethedogalong
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    edited March 2021 #152

    There’s separate guidance, as up to date as possible JV for each individual country of the UK. It tells you what is happening for each individual part, not just Club related by the way.

  • MDD10
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    edited March 2021 #153

    I received notification of the reopening of my golf club from the end of March...and that includes the changing rooms with toilets, showers and changing areas.....so not dissimilar to shower blocks on a camp site and definitely as busy.

    I emailed my MP ages ago to enquire about this inconsistency and he wasn’t aware so has forwarded it to the minister!.  I still await a reply but it would seem somewhat favouritism to golfers compared to campers!

     

  • mickysf
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    edited March 2021 #154

    This begs the question has the golf club got it wrong or are 'bending' the rules? But there is a difference and that is the golf club is not the primary place of ablution for its members. For many using club sites the block becomes this. The other thing to consider is that club toilets/showers are open all day and night (apart from that cleaning time which does have implications for what some may call adequate 24hr cleaning regimes.) At the end of the day such restrictions are there to reduce infection rates as best possible. 

  • JVB66
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    edited March 2021 #155

    I have also  emailed our MP about a similar scenario  and asked him to look into the inconsistances ,no reply yet (and heis the Trensport Minister

  • mickysf
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    edited March 2021 #156

    This was broached on another forum but no guidance or legislation differing to that currently available was forthcoming, no supporting guidance for the opening of golf clubs facilities in this way was provided by government or any others. The consensus of opinion was that some clubs were jumping the gun and hoping and praying for a change in direction. 

  • brue
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    edited March 2021 #157

    My thoughts too MickySF, no need to write to an MP about this, it's a decision still in the proverbial pipeline.

  • eribaMotters
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    edited March 2021 #158

    If 20,000 people can watch a ball being kicked around a stadium on May 15th, mingle in close proximity and go into a crowded toilet at half time, then why cannot I have a pee on a club site or CL?

     

    Colin

  • mickysf
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    edited March 2021 #159

    You may be able to by then, we will await direction from Boris and his minions. From the 12 April onwards we know what is being stipulated.

  • tricia11
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    edited March 2021 #160

    I agree, It s completely mad, facilities in large food shops have been open. It s a people choice . Should be our decision if:we want to use them we can. If we don t feel safe using them ,don t.

  • EasyT
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    edited March 2021 #161

    I notice that the toilets in the local Asda are rarely used. People don't have that much travel and can hold their water. 

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited March 2021 #162

    Goodness, I’ve not studied toilet usage in our Asda😆

  • cyberyacht
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    edited March 2021 #163

    My local sailing club's changing/toilet facilities are not available either when things start to re-open on 12/4.

  • mickysf
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    edited March 2021 #164

    Thankfully we live in a society which aims to protect us from the foolish and selfish. We have seen to our detriment several times this past year what happens when this minority just do their own thing against and despite the warnings and legislation. Let the science lead and 'normality' should return, hopefully sooner than later.

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    edited March 2021 #165
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  • mickysf
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    edited March 2021 #166

    Me too, there is a significant difference though between using a toilet when we few are 'caught short' and using them and showers etc. for our everyday ablutions with the mixingof multiple households taking place.

  • EasyT
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    edited March 2021 #167

    Well frequently, before the virus, on my walk from the tills I walk about 100 feet towards the toilets and  often saw folk heading there. very rare at present.

     

  • EasyT
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    edited March 2021 #168

    Indeed they need to be open. We don't always have a choice about requiring facilities

  • Metheven
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    edited March 2021 #169

    Is your definition of local different to mine surprised

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  • allanandjean
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    edited March 2021 #171

    Hi mickey, as mentioned people must decide for themselves what they feel comfortable with however, as many sites were full to the brim last summer and there was no affect on cases what are we to take from that?

    The site we used, for a club rally, had an intensive cleaning regime including a one hour deep clean with a fogging machine and choosing what time you used them you could avoid 'crowds'.

    My experience may differ from others, but I do not see lots of cuddling with strangers in facility blocks-I avoid those sorts of site!

  • ADP1963
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    edited March 2021 #172

    Cyber....wink  Does that mean your club will have a Heads Start ? 

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  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited March 2021 #175

    That’ll be the ‘Christmas effect’ after folk being told to have a great Christmas with family to then have it pegged back to 1 day. . .The genie was already out of the lamp by then🤷🏻‍♂️☹️

  • brue
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    edited March 2021 #176

    We had a less virulent strain of the virus around last summer.

    I've used public loos when out and about but they generally are more open to the air. Last year I saw caravan site facility blocks with closed doors and windows, I hope, if they do open up that at least they will have better air circulation. People queuing up waiting to unlock doors or press key pads to get into warm shower blocks seemed to go against the "fresh air" principle of keeping the virus at bay.

  • mickysf
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    edited March 2021 #177

    You're absolutely right R2Bs. The warning signs were there from early autumn when folk started to relax their efforts too early and then, due to  pressures, we were given permission to spread the thing further to all our detriments. Let's hope the lessons have been learnt. Unfortunately a minority will spoil it for us unless we hold our resolve. I don't like it one bit at all  but I understand the collective need.

  • EasyT
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    edited March 2021 #178

    The warning signs were there to be seen before August and I think from start of July as cases rose

  • brue
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    edited March 2021 #179

    Just out of interest OH is in touch with a local caravan site, we get the occasional take away from their cafe and they sell fishing permits for his local angling club etc and although they are opening up on April 12th their facility areas will be closed until further advised. You can see their Covid notice on this LINK.

  • DEBSC
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    edited March 2021 #180

    Our site in S Upon Avon can't open their facilities either, similar notice brue - all touring vans must use own facilities. They have holiday 'Pods' without facilities which they can't let until at least 17th May.

  • brue
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    edited March 2021 #181

    I wonder why the club can't make the decision, other sites have obviously decided what is ok and what isn't. It seems like a sensible precaution for both staff and visitors.