Covid - news and views
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"Nicely put Rufs. It also does not stop you from catching and possibly returning with a more virulent vaccine resistant variant. Mind you if the opportunity presents later in the year we will go."
Oh! you are one of the
"Must admit i am one of those who says "it will never happen to me"
we wont be venturing across the water this year with our caravan, have 2xBF flexi tickets, so maybe next year, but have not totally ruled out flying to Spain.
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Have to agree with that, even as a keen follower of most sports. From the moment the Cheltenham Festival was allowed to go ahead with huge crowds, sport has, for some reason, been considered a case apart. Totally incomprehensible really (IMHO).
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I think we will be released to travel abroad around mid June / July. No doubt there will be a rush. We will wait until a significant number have return and see what happens. September has always been a good time across the water so waiting until mid August to book will be no hardship.
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I hope you're right! We have an island hopping holiday booked in Greece for September, carried over from last year. Wouldn't want to postpone it again. Mind you, if there are still the current quarantine and testing on return arrangements in force then we won't be going anyway!
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I’m wondering if sites might stay open later in order to service us late comers. In 2019 as we came north in early October, some sites had actually closed earlier than advertised. Although fortunately it didn’t matter to us as we were able to utilise Aires. However this year, given how poorly sites have faired as a result of covid, they may want to remain open if there is enough demand.
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The question of covid 'passports' is interesting.
Some time back I posted that I could see that countries might view proof of vaccination as an indication that you would be unlikely to burden their health service but, as the vaccine does not stop you catching or passing on covid, what would be the reason or advantage.
I know that there has been more media coverage of this but nothing concrete yet and on past performance unlikely that an EU wide scheme will be here any time soon.
I am inclined to think that once the prospect of losing out on the multi million pound family holiday business, where many will not have been vaccinated, looms large there may be a change in approach.
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Some time back I posted that I could see that countries might view proof of vaccination as an indication that you would be unlikely to burden their health service but, as the vaccine does not stop you catching or passing on covid, what would be the reason or advantage.
Perhaps the fact that if you contracted it, in all likelihood the severity would be reduced and the chances of you clogging up a hospital bed / intensive care much less.
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Er, that's exactly what i said?!
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& I was expected to know that by your-‘really?’ Post🤷🏻♂️🙄
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JV, you need to be aware of ET & my interaction to comment, you are not making sense🤷🏻♂️, sorry but it’s a fact☹️
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You & me both, I said that about the 6N’s☹️
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Well, as I quoted your post "+1👍🏻. Folk seem to be well on board, we are just not dumb enough to fight the lifesaver👏🏻👏🏻" and questioned it by saying "Really" and showing a picture of the Rangers Fans I thought that you would have worked it out. No matter and can we leave it at that please
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Ok, I’ve not got the interest to joust with the minutiae of your imagination ET-I’m done👍🏻🙂.
PS-next time you goof the best thing is just to move on👍🏻👏🏻👏🏻
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I have been known to talk to myself, but not on this occasion!
My point was that as the vaccine protects the person who has had it, and possibly no one else, how will knowing you have had it be of an advantage other than to limit the possible impact on a countries health service.
As you said, and as explained to me by hospital doctor, the vaccine does not stop you catching covid but will reduce the severity of symptoms and, as the viral load is lower, may help to reduce transmission.
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Let me see?
I can have the OAZ vaccine and run the risk of having a blood clot or I can decide not to have it and run the risk of catching Covid.
There was a fact given out at our Welsh Covid Update today which stood out for me. There had been 40 blood clot cases reported in the first 17,000,000 doses of vaccine given to the date the report was issued. So a (approximate) 0.0000002% chance of having a blood clot and this became even lower if I hadn't shown any previous signs of having a blood clot plus there was no Causal link to the vaccine and blood clotting.
The Welsh Minister for Health did also say that Covid patients are more likely to suffer blood clots than those who are Covid free. He was quoting Public Health Wales data.
I wonder whether those EC countries refusing to sanction this use understand that they may well be condemning larger numbers of their population to Covid death or serious long term problems rather than risk the lives of a very small minority of them. Why not just issue guidelines for those that suffer blood clots?
I had a look at my OH's Ibuprofen list of side effects and they make for grim reading but the extremely serious ones are very very rare. The tablet is sold in every Supermarket and Pharmacy in large quantities. You wouldn't take any medication if you only concentrated on the worst that could happen.
It's risk management.
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On the question of blood clots Dr John Campbell (some you you will be familiar with his YouTube Channel) did a few calculations. He reckoned, on the information available, that the risks of dying from COVID were 1 in 400 without the vaccine. The risks of developing a blood clot having had the vaccine based on the information some European countries have offered is in the region of 1 in 300,000. As pointed out blood clots can be attributed to all sorts of causes. Be interesting to see what the EMA say tomorrow. If they continue to give it the all clear it just means that Europe is even further behind the vaccination curve than they needed to be.
David
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