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  • JohnM20
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    edited March 2021 #452

    Of the 37 blood clots out of 17 million vaccine jabs so far reported does anyone know how many of these instances were serious and life threatening?

  • Wherenext
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    edited March 2021 #453

    They have resulted in some people dying but I don't know how many. There still does not appear to be a causal link between the two.

    To my mind it still doesn't make sense to stop them even if the vaccine was responsible for these clots. The chances of dying from Covid are far, far greater.

    It seems perverse that people will shy away from the vaccine because of this suppose risk but still take their chance on avoiding covid for which the vaccine provides protection in many forms.

  • brue
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    edited March 2021 #454

    Some info here in the BMJ, about the type of blod clots etc and WHO reporting the vaccine programe should continue. LINK

  • brue
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    edited March 2021 #456

    Personally I think the EU is so weighed down with bureaucracy that any new circumstantial events will slow things up, although the original reports came from a non EU country, Norway. Reading Norwegian news is confising as they say they have also come up with a new Covid treatment!

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited March 2021 #457

    The EU Medicines Agency has decided the AZ vaccine is safe after all so it's 'as you were'.

  • LLM
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    edited March 2021 #458

    Even so I imagine that there will now bee even more vaccine hesitancy as a result of the pause and adverse publicity here and in the EU frown.  

  • Whittakerr
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    edited March 2021 #459

    i dont think the decision was ever really in doubt 

  • JVB66
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    edited March 2021 #460

    I cannot find it now but a few days ago i read that the Oxford astra zenika jab is the vacine of choice in most countries (cheaper than others as well) the Phizer jab is used a lot less ,there has been about the same  amount of "clotting problems" after treatmentundecided

     

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited March 2021 #461

    Of the 11 cases in the UK, it seems there was one fatality.


    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-56447367

     

  • Wherenext
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    edited March 2021 #462

    The problem is that it now a stigma hanging over it and there will be quite a few refusniks. Common sense will fly out of the window and the doubt has been place there solely by Politicians not listening to their medical advisors.

    I can well understand anyone who does suffer from their blood clotting seeking reassurance from the GPs etc. but for the rest of us it should just be carry on.

  • allanandjean
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    edited March 2021 #463

    One of the questions I was asked, before the jab, was are you on blood thinners, which I am.

    No problem but told it’s so they can be aware of any potential abnormal bleeding.

    I would presume, if one has an issue with clotting, you would be on thinners so ‘protected’ from clots??

  • JVB66
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    edited March 2021 #464

    When i had my Heart procedure that was the most important medications i was put on for a min of one year, ,to stop blood cloting,and am now on  soluble aspirin for life ,"just in case"

  • LLM
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    edited March 2021 #465

    One of the things they were scrutinizing was a rather strange anomaly.  A number of the men who suffered blood clots had very low platlet numbers.  This would normally mean that their blood would not easily clot contrary to what actually happened.  

  • LLM
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    edited March 2021 #466

    Well done Boris got your OAZ jab.  You can wear your sticker with pride. laughing

  • Cherokee2015
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    edited March 2021 #467

    Gutted I didn’t get a sticker today! sealedyell

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited March 2021 #468

    A record number of jabs given today over 700,000👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

  • Freddy55
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    edited March 2021 #469

    Yes, not to be sniffed at. I think the NHS have done an amazing job throughout this.

  • LLM
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    edited March 2021 #470

    There you go laughing:

     

  • LLM
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    edited March 2021 #471

    Yep, a slight pause for us this coming month due to supply issues then a target of 1m plus per day, including second jabs.  

  • SteveL
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    edited March 2021 #472

    About says it all.

  • LLM
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    edited March 2021 #473

    I think it's meaning is ambiguous.

  • SteveL
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    edited March 2021 #474

    As there isn’t a marked route across the bridge. For all those who think they will be flying away on a jet plane come mid May, I would say it shows a sense of reality. We are far, far removed from being out of the woods yet.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited March 2021 #475

    ....or off the mountain 😧

  • JVB66
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    edited March 2021 #476

    At this time it may well be "BrigaDoon"surprised

  • allanandjean
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    edited March 2021 #477

    Well Boris appears to have cleared the woods but is not heading back to the old normal but, instead, he is about to head up the pass to who knows where.

    Based on my many years of watching westerns, war films etc heading up the pass does not tend to end well.

  • LLM
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    edited March 2021 #478

    Well that's a number of various interpretations.  As I said ambiguous.

    I see a long hard road before we get back to normal, whatever that is 😃.  

  • LLM
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    edited March 2021 #479

    873, 784 speared yesterday 👍.

  • cyberyacht
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    edited March 2021 #480

    It's an illustrated manuscript of Prof. Whitty's slide showing the peak.

  • Wherenext
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    edited March 2021 #481

    I was sitting in the car, yesterday, waiting for OH to come back from the Chemists and turned the radio on.

    I don't normally listen to a lot of Radio 4 but found myself listening to an interesting programme called How to Vaccinate the World. Fortunately  OH was delayed at the Chemist so I got to hear the full half hour (11.30-12.00 am) Last in series next week but it is worth catching up with it on BBC Sounds. Must admit I haven't checked to see if you can but I'm going to try to see if I can up with the other instalments I've missed.

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