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  • Metheven
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    edited March 2021 #392

    We got the record card but politely declined the sticker, what is the point or use of a sticker, would have taken a lolly in its place though if it was a Swizzles double flavour one 🍭

  • EasyT
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    edited March 2021 #393

    Hi Easy, yes it should be if you are in a position to have a jab but, as you suggest, it may not be and there will be various reasons, many of which may never occur to us who have had the jab because we had no reason not to.

    If I lived on my own I may well not have had the jab. Not concerned regarding my personal safety although both OH and I are vulnerable and have underlying conditions. Well able to avoid contact to protect others. I suppose that I had the jab partly to protect OH and to protect myself on her behalf. Also for her sake in the future when she wishes to return to normality. If I was on my own and anticipating mingling in society that would also have induced me to have the vaccine.

  • EasyT
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    edited March 2021 #394

    With the increase rate of infections in Cyprus they may have a change of heart by May. Who knows.

  • SteveL
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    edited March 2021 #395

    I am thinking we will be very lucky if we can get away to France in September.

  • EasyT
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    edited March 2021 #396

    France's infection rates have been increasing slowly since mid December and have doubled over that period

  • Cornersteady
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    edited March 2021 #397

    yes +1. 

    I don't understand this giving out of badges or stickers. I assume there is a cost in making them (even at a penny a sticker it will mount up) and I'm puzzled as to what is their purpose? To encourage others to take the vaccine? To show one's pride in having taken it? It doesn't get you any more travel access, or you can by pass any social distancing or even not wear a mask, or any other covid rules? 

    Like others I believe that if you can then you should, or even must, take the vaccine. The fact that you are helping yourself and perhaps others is all the reward you really need.

     

  • marchie1053
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    edited March 2021 #398

    Not least because France is still tightening COVID restrictions. Pas de Calais will be placed under tighter curfew in the coming week. The Phase 1 region specific lockdowns allowed many Parisians to travel to the Vendee etc, carrying infection with them, and incurring the displeasure of the local populace!

    Steve

  • Bakers2
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    edited March 2021 #399

    I don't wish to get political but couldnt agree more. We've built up huge debts trying to get through this. Now when things start up again the budget won't be gathering in huge revenues, and then there's front line pay 🤐🤐 and we are offered stickers and sweets............ 

  • LLM
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    edited March 2021 #400

    It's beyond me as to why anyone would get so upset by a sticky label.  But, as they say all publicity good or bad is worth having, and it's in all of our interests to get as many people as possible vaccinated as fast as we can.  

  • allanandjean
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    edited March 2021 #401

    If I had given it a thought, stickergate, I would have presumed that stickers, not offered sweets so now feeling marginalised, were part of the attempt to be as positive as possible about the vaccine.

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  • Cornersteady
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    edited March 2021 #403

    smile

    But a would sticker it more positive? I don't know, maybe, doesn't for me but each to their own. I'm just puzzled by it.

    ‘Ok we’re going to give you a vaccine that will highly probably stop you becoming very ill or worse and we’ll give you a sticker’

    ‘actually you had me at stop me becoming very ill’

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited March 2021 #404

    +1👍🏻. Folk seem to be well on board, we are just not dumb enough to fight the lifesaver👏🏻👏🏻

  • robsail
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    edited March 2021 #405

    Sticker what sticker? Not allowed sweets since the visit to the dentist! Just glad to get the jab to protect myself and  folk with underlying conditions whom I come in contact with!

     

  • Bakers2
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    edited March 2021 #406

    Yes we were offered nothing other than the jab, not even a date for our 2nd jab. But I don't mind and didn't expect anything 😇

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited March 2021 #407

    Same with us. Just want the second now, soon hopefully.

  • huskydog
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    edited March 2021 #408

    I didn’t get a sticker , but I did get an egg timer , well ,for 15 minutes, then I had to give it back surprised

  • EasyT
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    edited March 2021 #410
  • heddlo
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    edited March 2021 #411

    Yes, this picture is totally amazing!  Idiots or what???!!!!!!! 

  • Rufs
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    edited March 2021 #412

    "But a would sticker it more positive? I don't know, maybe, doesn't for me but each to their own. I'm just puzzled by it."

    Oh!!! for goodness sake, so many people obviously in the depths of depressionundecided, its just a sticker, i was given 2, nice lady stuck one on my coat and i have 1 on my hat, still wearing them, did you never get stickers in your comic as a kid and proudly wear them to school?. If i get 2 more when i have my second jab then i will have 4, maybe stick them on the pooches collar laughing

    The lady in the paper shop asks me every morning if i am having a good day today i said

    "yes, the sun is up and i am stood up, what more could i ask for" maybe another sticker wink

  • JVB66
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    edited March 2021 #413

    We did not get anything but a thankyou from the "admin lady"for having arrived at specfied time with consent form completedcool

    I did get a sticker when i had blood samples taken  "i have been a brave doy"wink

  • JVB66
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    edited March 2021 #414

    One of the dog walkers said that our lakes were heaving with people over the weekend when he passed on the way to his PM shift at Police HQ

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited March 2021 #415

    Erm-the lifesaver is the vaccination. It has nothing whatsoever to do with Rangers fans in Scotland🤷🏻‍♂️🙄. Surprisingly enough when I praised the intelligence of folk(we) taking up the vaccination I didn’t include every single person everywhere ET☹️.

  • JVB66
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    edited March 2021 #416

    Interesting comment?undecided when it is still essential to keep social distancing ,and as "advised by the experts" the vacine is too new to say for sure that it stops transmission or catching the virus , although they do say if infected the symptoms should not be so severesurprised

  • EasyT
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    edited March 2021 #417

    I was commenting in regard to common sense and being onboard the program.

    I have read criticism of the lack of fines (elsewhere). The police had little chance if they were to avoid a riot I suspect. 

  • marchie1053
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    edited March 2021 #418

    Idiots are idiots; be they of the Football Suporter, the Shopping Centre, the Package Holiday Airport, the 100 mile each way drive for exercise, or any other category that drives people to gather in breach of social distancing, safe conduct etc.

    Our next door neighbours on the first floor think themselves superior to everyone and above the law. She has an 'important role with the Red Cross' so has arranged for last year's fad, the dog, to be collected from inside her Apartment; the baby, also last year's fad, is collected by the Nanny [aka Childminder, aka the local Councillor] from inside the flat and taken to a childminding gathering organised via the neighbour's WhatsApp Group etc etc. More comings and goings than before the pandemic, and we wonder why the infection rate for a small region is so high.

    The Booster jag in Fife needs to incorporate a stupidity and selfishness antidote if we are to lose our ranking as 4th or 5th highest daily infection cases in Scotland.

    Rant over ...

    Steve

  • Rufs
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    edited March 2021 #419

    As i understand it, at the moment the passport being talked about the most is an EU wide passport where countries outside the EU will be invited to participate, and if the EU is as good at rolling out this passport as they are the vaccination programme, dont hold your breath as to when it will be available, hence countries such as Greece, Portugal, Spain are already talking about providing their own in conjunction with the UK, and why wouldnt they undecidedso much for a joined up EU community.

    But surely the passport is not the holy grail, the vaccine does not stop you becoming infected, it does not stop you infecting others, so the passport is only proof of having had the vaccination which might protect you from the worst of the virus.

    So, the scenario, ...when you have had a lovely time in France and you are about to return to the UK where the requirement to enter is still a negative covid-19 test within 72 hours, you dutifully have the test but prove positive, yes you stand a much greater chance of being asymptomatic now you have been vaccinated, where exactly do you go, every possibility you will have to self isolate for 7 - 14 days and provide a negative test,

    do you stay on site and politely inform the owner you are covid-19 positive, with all the implications that go hand in hand with your declaration.

    if you are holed up on an aires do you now have to find a site for 7 - 14 days again politely informing the owner you are covid-19 positive, sure they are going to be very happy to have you NOT!!!

    Must admit i am one of those who says "it will never happen to me"

    and how is the vaccination roll out going

    UK total doses 21.8M 32.5 pct of population

    France total doses 5.0m 7.4 pct of population

    Spain total doses 4.2m 9.1 pct of population

    Croatia total doses 242,000 5.9 pct of population

    yes there is some concern over the total number of deaths in the UK and total number of infections, but there is strong evidence to suggest, that as we are a nation of fatties and covid likes fatties we came off the worst undecided     

    So is a passport the answer to all our prayers ???

  • LLM
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    edited March 2021 #421

    But surely the passport is not the holy grail, the vaccine does not stop you becoming infected, it does not stop you infecting others, so the passport is only proof of having had the vaccination which might protect you from the worst of the virus.

    Nicely put Rufs.  It also does not stop you from catching and possibly returning with a more virulent vaccine resistant variant.  Mind you if the opportunity presents later in the year we will go.