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  • Rufs
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    edited February 2021 #362

    agreed, I for one will not care what goes on my death certificate undecidedbut it is a bit rich if you get killed in a traffic accident but because you had covid-19 some 3 weeks before the death certificate could say died of covid-19 frown, or was as the case man of 99 with lots of underlying problems, goes to sleep and never wakens up = death from covid-19,  bet BJ is backing this one, could make his stats look a whole lot better laughing

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  • LLM
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    edited February 2021 #364

    I wonder what the people that are moaning think that changing a bit of paperwork will achieve.  The dead are dead, I doubt they will return (but I have been known to be wrong undecided).  

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited February 2021 #365

    According to this interesting Government website such a death caused by a road accident wouldn't be recorded as COVID. However if during the process of recovering from an accident the patient caught COVID and subsequently dies it is possible that it would be recorded as a COVID death. 

    The World Health Organisation say this:-

    A COVID-19 death is defined for surveillance purposes as a death resulting from a clinically compatible illness in a probable or confirmed COVID-19 case, unless there is a clear alternative cause of death that cannot be related to COVID-19 disease (e.g. trauma)

    It is possible, given the pressure the NHS has been under, that some of the deaths attributed to COVID could be suspect. Although some statistics say the number of COVID deaths is under reported. I am not even sure a post mortem would necessarily change the the reason and would probably put surviving families under even greater stress? Obviously people impacted by the sudden unexpected death of a close family member will have all sorts of things going around in their minds. Logically it seems a bit pointless to question but at times of grief logic doesn't come into it.

    David

  • allanandjean
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    edited February 2021 #366

    I can tell you that it can matter an awful lot to people who lose someone.

    The sheer number of deaths that we are dealing with may numb a little but lets not forget that, as is being discussed here, people die for lots of reasons and it may be important, for reasons other than the Covid statistics, what cause is recorded.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited March 2021 #367

    Has anyone else received a letter recently notifying them they've now been placed in the at risk/shielding category as a result of a review? OH got one but it all seems a bit futile now after 12 months of being very careful. 

  • LLM
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    edited March 2021 #368

    I think the idea is that those younger ones who get a letter suggesting they are now classified in an at risk category are bumped up the vaccine queue.  

  • JVB66
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    edited March 2021 #369

    Our grand daughter aged 20 has received a letter last week,to go for a covid vacine,all she can think it is because when she was about 7yrs she had a few "absences?" and was put on a course of medication

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  • Tinwheeler
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    edited March 2021 #371

    I guess they have to consider that we're not through this yet and things could go either way but, for us, it'll not make any difference to our current ways. 

  • ABM
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    edited March 2021 #372

    Agreed TW ~~ We are a long long way short of the day when we can consider ourselves to be through this problem, sadly.  I take the Ducky for the occasional drive to keep the greased bits from  solidifying but keep the maps, handbooks etc out of sight frown why cause myself to fret or do silly things. 

  • robsail
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    edited March 2021 #373

    Joined the the ranks of the Jabbed today, so that's all three of us had the first vaccine. 

  • JVB66
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    edited March 2021 #374

    IMHO we need to wait untill the schools have been open for about 3 weeks, it has been reported on the news today that parents in some areas are rejecting that their children need to be testedyell

    It was proved in Essex last year that it was children that were the "spreaders" from schools

  • brue
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    edited March 2021 #375

    Schools have done a massive amount of preparation for testing and it will form part of the routine when the students return. I've just been looking at the procedures involved, it will take time to run these tests so the school timetables will be altered to include them. It will probably be better when the tests can be done at home rather than at school.

  • brue
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    edited March 2021 #376

    That's good to hear, you're on the way! wink

  • JVB66
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    edited March 2021 #377

    Grand daughter 20 yrs at Nott Trent uni text to advise that she has had her first covid vacine (astra zenika)yesterday next jab in May

  • SteveL
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    edited March 2021 #378

    IMHO we need to wait untill the schools have been open for about 3 weeks, it has been reported on the news today that parents in some areas are rejecting that their children need to be tested

    It does seem rather odd this is permitted, as they will still be allowed to attend class. Given the main reason for the testing is to pick up asymptomatic  carriers, who might now end up sat alongside those who have tested negative. If the same parents don’t complete the census in a few weeks they can be fined up to £1000. Send their kids to school without testing and nothing is done.🤔 

  • LLM
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    edited March 2021 #379

    Unfortunately it would require a change in the law to enforce testing and/or to exclude those that don't get tested.  That takes time to implement.  I suspect that if rates begin to rise some action will be taken - I hope. 

  • EasyT
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    edited March 2021 #380

    I doubt that my youngest grandson who is autistic will be tested. To force it on him would take two or three adults. However if he contracts it then doubtless his brother would also and he can be tested.

    It is what it is.

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  • Takethedogalong
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    edited March 2021 #382

    Yes Tinny. My Mum got one last week, she’s 92. We had realised last March that she would be vulnerable, so we shielded her immediately. 🤷‍♀️
    OH was told he was extremely vulnerable some two months into first lockdown. Again common sense told us he was likely to be at risk, (no spleen) so again we have taken, and continue to take full precautions.🤷‍♀️

    I think they are closing the stable doors now the horses have bolted. Months behind on almost everything, but hey ho, snail mail eventually gets through. Some folks will no doubt be astonished to find they are at risk......🤨 

     

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited March 2021 #383

    Like you, we've been very careful from the start so it won’t make a real difference. I don’t think we'll be applying for food parcels at this stage😁.

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited March 2021 #384

    No😁 OH was sent some Vit D tablets free gratis, but we take these anyway in Winter. 

    I noticed two testing stations back up and running yesterday. One not far from us, another in a different area. Wondering if this is to aid with schools returning on Monday. Mum has her second jab next week, with luck we shall all have had our second by mid May. 

  • LLM
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    edited March 2021 #385

    All of you youngsters 56 years and above can now earn your badge.  Go for it, there is nothing to lose and much to gain - FREEDOM. If you're really unfortunate you may even be jabbed by me laughing, but don't let that put you off the chance is vanishingly small laughing.  

     

  • DEBSC
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    edited March 2021 #386

    AnotherD, yes it was on the BBC news the other evening. For all of those people, like your daughter, who couldn't cope with an injection they are working on a nasal spray. I hope this is good news for you and would work for her.

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  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited March 2021 #388

    +1👍🏻

  • EasyT
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    edited March 2021 #389

    It’s our moral duty to take the vax to save lives, that should be enough of an incentive.

    It should be enough - but is it? I hope so

  • SteveL
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    edited March 2021 #390

    Indeed. Hopefully they can get their finger out and get something that everyone accepts before our boat leaves in September.😀

  • allanandjean
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    edited March 2021 #391

    Hi Easy, yes it should be if you are in a position to have a jab but, as you suggest, it may not be and there will be various reasons, many of which may never occur to us who have had the jab because we had no reason not to.

    The question of passports, or whatever they end up being called, is interesting.

    We have decided that it is unlikely we will take the van abroad this year but, if we did, would like to take one of our grandchildren before work gets in the way.

    As he is 20 it may be a while before he is vaccinated, so do we stay or go-multiply this by the thousands of family holidays and I think there may be something of a watering down from what is being bandied about now. 

    By the way, we got a sticker and the record card.