Covid Vaccine - Temporarily locked
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If you have more money than me then use it, I will not complain. Life is like that.
But you'll be making my place in the list and waiting time go quicker so thank you.
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Our pharmacy is on overload at the moment, can't get home deliveries out to those who can't collect, lots of people unwell at present. Not a good time to start asking for extra services. The NHS must take priority in ordering Covid vaccinations, AstraZ is being offered at cost and still can't deliver due to manufacturing problems. This is a logistical problem that needs total commitment from everyone not a distraction from individuals who want to pay extra to jump the queue.
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But that does not make sense. By paying for all the costs I'm saving the NHS money and other people get seen quicker.
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Ok I'll disregard you're post then PD
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I'm not sure if you're addressing me, PD, but I’ve already made it clear that the NHS and other patients will benefit when no NHS resources are used. Private medicine already purchases its own drugs and equipment so there's no reason to think NHS vax would be used in the hypothetical situation under discussion.
That's all it is at this stage - hypothetical, so no need your stress yourself.
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But that applies to any one is any line of work when they were trained.
Are you saying then that NHS trained staff cannot work outside the NHS privately?
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I'd gladly pay that actually. Worth every penny in the long run. paid far more than that for garden decking recently, I think a vaccine from this horrible virus is worth more than that decking
I really would.
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Is there a shortage of doses? Again not what we've been told.
You're getting very stressed out, clam down as at present this is hypothetical but one day it will not be?
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Your contention was that training a surgeon costs the rest of us nothing.
Like just about everything you’ve said on this thread, that’s clearly nonsense. Whether we’re talking about the £billions spent by the Government on the university sector, the public cost of building, maintaining and running hospitals, research grants for clinical enhancement, introduction and training for new medical technology etc etc, without the NHS there would not be a private health sector of any reckoning.
BTW, I’m not opposed to private healthcare, but in the context of a pandemic which is killing hundreds of thousands of people, creating a market for life saving treatment is just plain wrong.1 -
Incidentally, you may be interested to know that many private hospitals (eg The Nuffield Hospitals as well a our local Duchy Hospital) have been turned over to the NHS, in total or in part, during the covid crisis. The NHS pay the private companies at cost for using them.
Therefore, the NHS is now able to take advantage of additional beds and nursing staff while those of us who are willing to pay for treatment have little or no avenue to do so. I'm not complaining, btw, as I'm glad others are gaining.
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But how would it change your situation at present? If if meant you or I could go on holiday, either here or abroad, and carry on our daily lives as normal it would be money well spent but it wouldn't change anything if we were still under lockdown. The vast majority of our food supplies over the last year has been supermarket deliveries or Click and Collect, our daily walks are in the countryside so the chance of us catching Covid is slim.
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Interesting quote from a leading doctor re purchasing the vaccine privately
"However, the main bottleneck seems to be in the logistics of the rollout, not vaccine production per se. If private sales make additional resources available for the setting up of a private, additional distribution channel, then surely everyone benefits.
This is not “jumping the queue”. This is setting up a parallel fast-track queue"
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Well that might depend on whether the private venture was more lucrative than the arrangements agreed with governments and sponsors around the world who’ve pumped in £billions to get us where we are now and produce vaccine at cost.
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I would just like to see all areas of the UK rolling out the vaccinations at the same pace.
My MIL is 91 she has parkinsons and lives in a care home. So far not one person in that home has been given the jab. Our 2 neighbours are 95 & 96 still no sign of them getting the jab either. It is very upsetting to hear of much younger folk getting the jab when so many others that should have had it by now have not.
Until all the elderly and by that I mean over 65s have been vaccinated then anyone thinking about jumping the queue because they can afford to pay is disgusting. There are many of us in a position to pay but not until those that really need it have been done first.
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Until all the elderly and by that I mean over 65s have been vaccinated then anyone thinking about jumping the queue because they can afford to pay is disgusting. There are many of us in a position to pay but not until those that really need it have been done first.
Agree 100%
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I'm sitting here looking at the Government / NHS / OAZ contract for the supply and distribution of the OAZ vaccine throughout the UK. No individual or organisation other than the NHS should be supplied by OAZ. In theory queue jumping should be impossible. Don't ask, I will not explain.
As I understand it the shortages / delays are vials being in short supply, and each production batch having to be tested for safety and efficacy which takes at least a week.
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Until all the elderly and by that I mean over 65s
I definitely don't consider myself elderly - until I look in the mirror
but if that helps me to get the vaccine before April I'll take it. My brother in law, in his early 50s and fit as a fiddle, has already had his vaccine, around a week before Christmas. It was apparently a mistake with one department not knowing what constitutes a care home. I'm sure many more mistakes will be made in the future before the whole country is vaccinated.
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Ok find one quote where I said:
... training a surgeon costs the rest of us nothing?
Please really do SB. I said nothing of the sort, that is clearly nonsense.
It was you who said they were self-trained? I merely said they paid fees to be trained. I never said that that fee covered all their training did I? And that is probably true of most jobs.
Also isn't all private care potentially life saving? How many people have sadly have died waiting for NHS treatment?
Anyway as this is all just pie in the sky I can't see why you are getting so upset over me wanting to pay for treatment I can't have?
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Agreed, my mother is 90 in a care home and suffers with dementia. She gets her jab tomorrow, In a care home where she previously lived, 12 residents died in April - a third of all residents. The thought that could happen again, simply because vaccines have been diverted to lower priority cases is disgusting.
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I thought we'd already said the concept of paying is hypothetical 🤷🏻♂️
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