Covid Vaccine - Temporarily locked
Some good news. It seems one of the trial vaccines offers 90% protection against the virus. The developers have applied for an emergency approval to use the vaccine by the end of the month. UK has an order in place for 30m doses.
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Yes its the Pfizer and BioNTech vaccine developed in German. Story here on the BBC. It has to be stored at minus 80C which could be a bit of a nightmare!!!
David
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It's progress but, as per that link, it's not cut and dried by any means.
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Plus the Oxford vaccine group is confident that their vax may be available last quarter 2020 to first quarter 2021. Yup it’s quite astounding considering they bring vaccines to market usually within a 10yr time frame👍🏻👏🏻👏🏻
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A positive move forwards. Fingers crossed it works out. 🤞
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I think it unlikely that in the near future that we receive 10 million doses at most. Is that to immunise 5 million people as 2 doses required to immunise each. If by the end of the year we are able to immunise 5 million people there will have to be a decision on who they are offered to.
Personally I doubt we will immunise as many as a million by end January.
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The vaccine will first of all be offered to front line caring staff. That has always been the plan. It will then progress to the extremely vulnerable and so on down the line.
Whether that applies to all countries of the UK, I have no idea.
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Maybe. I would guess at front line caring staff getting first call but, if I was giving out the offers The extremely vulnerable would not be next inline as they are probably isolating to a degree and therefore less likely to infect many themselves. With limited vaccine I would rather target such as to reduce spread than sav an individual life
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The news has certainly had an impact on stock markets around the world with most seeing a 5% gain.
Good news for my pension fund.
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I think the idea is-each person who has underlying or immuno issues represents a quandary for those who’ve taken a vow to try & save all Human life. The very nature off their issues suggests they have very little chance against the covid virus but the health care professionals will give their all to try & save them. As no one can morally be asked to decide one person is less important than another, add to that they will/could fill beds/ventilators.There lies the quandary,
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I wonder if you would accept that so easy when you are told you are not deserving of a vaccine, and how would your family feel about it!
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I would accept that very easily. I am vulnerable but take care and when meeting people in our gardens previously we have distanced well and I have no great concerns. For me it is far more important that the sources of infection are reduced than I get a vaccine myself. I am vulnerable but saving my life seems less important that somebody that has to go to work and contact others. I am retired and able to take reasonable precautions. Maybe give my shot to somebody working in an abattoir and in more of a position to pass on the disease. Or somebody like K who is caring for grandchildren.
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Protecting the frontline health workers and then the vulnerable will ensure the NHS is able to work well for people with other illnesses with less risk of being swamped by seriously ill CV19 patients. Each year a similar approach to deal with Flu seems to work quite well. The NHS has a lot of work to catch up on.
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Indeed it makes more sense to me. Immunise me and OH, also vulnerable, would save two lives if we were likely to pick up the virus. That is no impossible but not that likely and if we caught it I doubt that we would block a bed for very long
or likely infect othersOhers in a working environment, particularly if non symptomatic could infect far more people than we are likely to. to me it is far more important to limit the spread than to protect individual lives
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Surely in general younger fit people are less likely to be affected and are better able to wait.
This year our local GP surgeries work together to carry out Flu vaccination en masse and very quickly. It seemed to be a test run for CV19 vaccine administration and worked very well. No more that about three minutes for both management and me.
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Mrs WN did read something on Government website about priorities.
It would appear that Over 80s would be in the first tranche to receive a vaccine with Frontline Health staff. There was then a list to number 10 in decreasing order but of course she can't find it now and neither can I.
We did joke with MiL that if she gets it first she's going to have to do the supermarket sweep with her Dolly Trolley.
Will try to find it and post a link.
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Surely in general younger fit people are less likely to be affected and are better able to wait.
And likely in a position where they are more likely to spread the virus. I know 4 very vulnerable people very well. Me, OH, and two very vulnerable daughters due to severe Asthma and Heart condition, I do know others.
Of those 4 there is only one that I would consider would really be a candidate worth inoculation. That is my youngest with the serious asthma. That is because she is a lone parent of two young lads that rely on her. When they had Flu at start of January she had to wear a medical grade mask most of the time.
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What I find and and what I consider to the better option are likely to diverge. I am not swayed by public sentimentality although the government is likely to be.
I would rather those in a more difficult position of avoiding passing on the virus comes first.
It is very unlikely that I shall have the vaccine but I suspect OH will if offered.
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This may be of interest.
JCVI: updated interim advice on priority groups for COVID-19 vaccination Published 25 September 2020
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Damn, i'm down to 8 on the list.
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It is a govt policy decision, it’s the govt who are deciding who gets it👍🏻🙂
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Thanks for that LLM, well worked out the Govt👍🏻👏🏻👏🏻
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Indeed so but in my personal opinion it is more important6 to reduce the numbers carrying the disease than to save individual lives. I agree front line staff should be first.
The government will be swayed by making more popular choice as they have been in the past and will no doubt do in the future.
Of course there will be no compulsion to take up the vaccine and I am pretty certain of my choice not to be vaccinated. I very much doubt that at 68 years of age with high blood pressure and diabetic that I would be given the choice within the next 6 months in any event when I am likely to refuse anyway.
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