Travelling abroad and vaccination

nelliethehooker
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With the second injection now being given up to 12 weeks after the first one how will this affect the travel plans of those thinking of going "over there" for an extended period? Will you accept the earliest date offered, go after that and then not bother with the second, or rearrange your trip?

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  • Tinwheeler
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    edited January 2021 #2

    I think the same quandary could apply to those hoping to holiday over here, Nellie. 

  • SeasideBill
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    edited January 2021 #3

    Surely too many variables here and ‘over there’ for anybody to make firm plans? At the very least I’d defer travel until both jabs delivered and maximum immunity acquired. 

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  • Tinwheeler
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    edited January 2021 #5

    Mmm, shall I go on holiday or have a potentially life saving vaccination?

    🤔🤔🤔

  • hitchglitch
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    edited January 2021 #6

    If we can be sure of the date for the second vaccine we would consider leaving the motorhome at our usual site in France and flying home for a couple of days. Probably need to hire a car to get to the airport as the nearest one could be a couple of hours away.

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited January 2021 #7

    Surely you just tailor your plans accordingly? It is not essential that we go anywhere during the period between the two injections or alternatively we arrange trips that fit in with the time period? Hopefully the vaccinations will be a means of getting our freedom back but that doesn't mean COVID will have disappeared and probably some restrictions could still be in place?

    David

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  • SteveL
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    edited January 2021 #9

    For us in level 5 of vaccination priority, it looks like the end of Feb beginning of March for the first dose. That would put the second in June. So we might need to amend our UK tour (if it can even go ahead) but hopefully we should be OK for September / October in France.🤞

  • moulesy
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    edited January 2021 #10

    It's something which has occurred to us - we have a cottage booked in Derbyshire and a river cruise in France, both booked for May which might well coincide with a second dose. We've already decided - the vaccine comes first and we will re-arrange either or both trips if necessary - it's a "no brainer" as far as I'm concerned. smile

  • Metheven
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    edited January 2021 #11

    Going by what has been promised and when it will occur, along with all the failures. Vaccination is the only thing left to look forward to out of this mess. I would not book holidays out of the UK around vaccination dates that could alter from one week to the next, or be extended to another time period and even location.

    Vaccination takes priority and I will stay available within the UK for the dates provided, and be prepared to have them changed. Then I will make my plans.

  • JVB66
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    edited January 2021 #12

    In these unprecedented times ,i just cannot understand why some should even Querry as to what they should do with going away, ,and the second dose of the vacine ,,we according to HMG should have our first dose by middle of Feb? 

    With the mutated virus strain still to take hold "over there" i would not be contemplating a trip yet ,and as we keep being told by some, there is not any need to book ,as there is always room on sites ,

    And if looking at this country as others have said , if you have an idea of your destination  book it ,this club do not want deposits and bookings can normally be amended without cost if needed

  • SteveL
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    edited January 2021 #13

    Indeed JVB. Being able to book / amend easily does make the club stand out in this uncertain period. Similarly Brittany Ferries very flexible booking made them the obvious carrier for our planned tour over there. The fact that there is no need to book sites is an added bonus. We will take out insurance just before we go.

  • Rufs
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    edited January 2021 #14

    "With the mutated virus strain still to take hold "over there" i would not be contemplating a trip yet ,and as we keep being told by some, there is not any need to book ,as there is always room on sites"

    very good point, and the scientist are saying that the EU is probably 1 month behind the UK when it comes to virus infections taking off as a result of the new strain, there are also reports in the press of yet another new strain being identified in South Africa that may be resistant to the present vaccine, (South AfrIca are on a par with the UK when it comes to identifying new strains etc)

    we should also not forget, as of today the EU is some way behind the UK in approving/rolling out the vaccine.

    Spain are already introducing further restrictions on movement within its own borders and from overseas in an effort to get ahead of the new strains/.

     

  • hitchglitch
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    edited January 2021 #15

    Come May/June it will be 18 months since we have been away either in the motorhome or flights. We plan to be away for around 5 weeks at the time the second vaccine would be due. Hopefully by then we will have more information about how effective the first vaccine is and how necessary the second dose is. We may all need vaccinating annually  anyway.

  • EasyT
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    edited January 2021 #16

    we according to HMG should have our first dose by middle of Feb? 

    Who is the we Tonto? wink

    I doubt that they have got far down the list by mid Feb; by then the timing will be for second doses to start.

  • Rufs
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    edited January 2021 #17

    well my daughter who is on the chain gang for giving you the shot in your arm has told us to expect ours by mid Feb and i think we are considerably younger than JVB66, no offence JVB66.

    according to latest info 2nd doses have been stopped until we have got to No.5 in the pecking order which is all over-65's undecidedor i thought that was what the chief medical officer has said undecided

  • lagerorwine
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    edited January 2021 #18

    Based on what has happened to date, I don't think anything HMG says can be relied upon with certainty, so until I see evidence that the vaccine roll-out is progressing at pace, planning a holiday is on hold for us unfortunately.

  • mbee1
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    edited January 2021 #19

    We don't intend to book anything abroad with either the caravan or a flight for the foreseeable. Far too dangerous in my opinion.

  • Tammygirl
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    edited January 2021 #20

    This is something we've been discussing in the last few days.

    We are due to go to our timeshare in Lanzarote first 3 weeks March, that might not happen now.

    We also have a ferry booked for end April with BF, carried over from 2020. A tunnel booking for end of June to return home, this has to be used by the 28th or we lose it.

    The ferry booking can be amended as its on a flexi ticket. 

    If we were to get our vaccination mid Feb  that would mean cutting short our trip by a month, so for once I hope we are a bit later, mid March would do nicely smile

    The real problem I can see is not being allowed to enter some of the countries if our R rate is still high.

    As it is a covid test will almost certainly be required and they don't come cheap. The best we can hope for on that front is that the ferry operator's get something setup like the truckers get. 

    A Lateral flow test is quick but not always reliable, a PCR is more reliable but costly and you have to wait up to 48hrs for the result then travel and arrive before the 72 hr time frame expires. 

    In the time between taking test and arriving at port of destination you need to isolate to prevent catching the virus. All very stressful.

  • Tigi
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    edited January 2021 #21

    Some seem to be jumping the gun! 

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited January 2021 #22

    No it isn't. If one is holidaying within a reasonably short distance from home one could easily drive back to get second injection and then continue with your holiday, which would not apply to most of those who have travelled much further afield, especially "over there"

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited January 2021 #23

    Depends a lot on where one lives, as OH had her first vaccination today and is like me, in the second group. Hopefully I will get the call shortly and we can start planning when we can get away. If we are allowed to it will be before the second jab, but we'll only select sites close enough to home to get back easily for those.

  • JVB66
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    edited January 2021 #24

    We had a call from some friends who live near Ely both in their 80s and one on the very high risk list ,and have not had any communications as to when they are to have their first jabsurprised

  • Tammygirl
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    edited January 2021 #25

    My neighbour is almost 96 years old, across from me another is 95, neither of them have heard anything about getting the jab. 

    It seems to be very uneven this vaccination programme. Surely at 96, 95 they should be in the top priority group. They have done some of the care homes, care staff and NHS but as far as I'm aware no one in the general public has been vaccinated in our city. 

    They say that each health authority will work out how to roll it out, we are in Tayside HA, who yesterday showed on local TV the first person to get the new AZ vaccine in Dundee an 82 year old man. Dundee is Tayside HA so how come they miss out all those in the over 85 age group.

    I don't have much confidence in how the Scottish government will roll it out, I hope they will be publishing their daily vaccination totals like Boris has said England will, maybe then some will see the nippy one isn't as good as she thinks she is.

  • allanandjean
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    edited January 2021 #26

    Hi TG, the England .Gov website lists the priorities as;

    1.residents in a care home for older adults and their carers
    2.all those 80 years of age and over and frontline health and social care workers
    3.all those 75 years of age and over
    4.all those 70 years of age and over and clinically extremely vulnerable individual
    5.all those 65 years of age and over

    Our Doctors surgery has teamed with others and started vaccinations in mid December and we know a few who have had it.

    On local TV news this evening it was reported that Derriford Hospital in Plymouth has been ‘overwhelmed’ with calls asking for the vaccination.

  • cyberyacht
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    edited January 2021 #27

    OH and I have a hospital appointment in early Feb. Sod's law is that, when we get summoned, it will clash with our Covid jab.

  • Rufs
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    edited January 2021 #28

    "The real problem I can see is not being allowed to enter some of the countries if our R rate is still high"

    Interesting headlines in the press this morning

    "MAJORCA has "written off" holidays for Easter due to the spread of coronavirus, with trips unlikely to resume until June.

    It follows the news of England's lockdown which prohibits all leisure travel abroad, with fears it will be in place until March."

    was speaking to my daughter in Spain last night and she said that the Spanish health minister has told all regions to put in place stringent travel restrictions in the hope of avoiding mass infections of the new strain of virus, think they may be too late, 6 teachers in my daughters school did no return from xmas break yesterday, all have covid-19

  • EasyT
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    edited January 2021 #29

    The UK has given 1.3 Million doses.

     

     

  • Whittakerr
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    edited January 2021 #30

    The UK has given 1.3 Million doses.

    And over 1m of these were given in England. So not many in Scotland, Wales and NI.

  • mbee1
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    edited January 2021 #31

    Mother in law at 89 had hers between Christmas and New Year.