Covid Vaccine - Temporarily locked
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This seems to be a good explanation as to why it has been decided to extend the period to up to 12_weeks. If you've not already watched it it well worth the viewing.
https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCF9IOB2TExg3QIBupFtBDxg
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Regarding 80-year-olds and the using of mobile phones. The above assumptions could be very far from accurate, and this being even less accurate as time progresses.
My wife and I are in our mid-80s. I use an Apple Mac, an iPhone and an iPad. And I do online banking and regular online purchasing. Conversely, my wife uses an iPhone quite capably but will not use the Mac or the iPad.
I do know quite a lot of elderly people who use mobile phones, so I am inclined to believe that, whilst the comments concerning mobile phones are likely to be incorrect, the opposite may be true if it were extended to iPads and computers.
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In my experience, a lot of over 80’s have mobiles..........it’s hearing them that is often the issue. Same with landlines as well.
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Our local medical centre isn't involved at present in the Covid vaccination programme. However the programme is being operated from a community hall in a local town a few miles away and they have the home contact numbers for those on the list.
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I'm sure what you say is true for large numbers of over 80s, LT, and I certainly wasn't intending to cast any aspersions!
Just reporting back what we were told and I guess the surgery have records of landline/mobile numbers and think the landline is the most efficient way of reaching the greatest number of their older patients.
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Mine is always in my pocket, but does often somehow get the ringer turned off! OH's is usually quite dead in her handbag.
We just got "new" phones.........DD and SIL have upgraded so have passed on their old ones. This must be the 3rd time we have had "hand me downs" from our children, very economical way of getting a pretty decent phone!
Having had a mobile since the late 1970s, necessary for my work, my own computer since the mid 70s, and 2 children who are software engineers, I am comfortable with the technology, even though approaching 80. We do however know quite a few older people who are not, so contact via landline would probably be more effective overall.
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I think it’s totally unfair to cancel the second jab appointments made for vulnerable very elderly. It won’t be too much of an issue for anyone posting on here, tech savvy, still normally out and about.
But for those who have been reliant upon little technology, sorting out a lot of things such as taxis, help to get to the vaccine centre, it’s a very big thing to cancel it. All that will have to be re arranged, and it adds to an already stressful situation for those who are frail and reliant upon family and friends to help.
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Agree 100% with that. By all means go for the longer interval between jabs going forward (assuming the figures for protection can be backed up). But for those who have already received the first and have appointments for the second, honour those appointments - the numbers aren't that huge - only "a trickle" according to Dr David Salisbury.
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Regarding the change of vaccination policy I want to know who is lying. A few weeks ago the OAZ vaccine would produce about 40% immunity around 21 days after the first jab. Now all of a sudden it's over 70%. Magic. Even JVT is choosing his words very carefully. Only a clear statement from the MHRA will convince me one way or the other.
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I agree TDA. I registered with my doctor 33 years ago. I suspect that may surgeries do not have all folks mobiles either. Mine has but only because he wanted a consultation with me when I would have been away and so I gave my mobile number.
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I also think it would be best to carry out the second injection for those that have already agreed a date. Much less likely to cause confusion and the numbers aren't that great yet.
Our surgery has been asking for mobile numbers, if you have one, for the last few years. It means you get a text confirmation of an appointment when you make it, no need to write it down and a text reminder the day before. They also use it to text me I am due a blood test, or other monitoring. I prefer it to a voice call as it avoids any miss hearing of time / date etc.
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Most of those who would have been expecting the second shot in the arm are the vunerable, most will have a repeat perscription for some sort of drug, at our surgery, and i am sure it is a nation wide requirement, you need to have a meeting with your doctor to discuss your perscription annually, i have this meeting, and everytime my doctor checks that my personal details are correct, this includes my contact details e.g. mobile phone number.
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In view of the comparatively small numbers involved, apart from the nursing home ones, which are doubtless managed by the staff, existing arrangements should be left "as is" creating the least hassle, confusion and administrative time. Retrospective alterations are always messy.
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I think that must depend on individual surgeries Rufs. We both have repeat prescriptions but haven't had annual check ups. We re-order our prescriptions on line, every so often it tells us they need to be reauthorised. I just add a note asking for that to be done and it's never been questioned.
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Lucky you! It's all we can do to get an appointment with any of the doctors at our surgery, let alone the one we're technically registered with. Unless you phone bang on 8am you're likely to be told there are no appointments for several days - and please ring back at 8am tomorrow to try to get one of them!
Haven't seen any of the doctors there for over a couple of years now!
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Sorry LLM, but your 'fall back ' of Carrier / Homing / Racing pigeon will not work for some time !! -- Avian Flu' is as prevalent as C19 I'm afraid -- my neighbour just had enough time to let 'em have a bathe, then shooed the terrors back into their own ' Lock Down Loft ' before Christmas when he got the Lock 'em up command and the option was terminal if he disobeyed !!
Seriously tho' I use my Samsung for many things, not least of which is phone calls & texts. Should I be driving & not able to answer the thing, then my surgery calls my land line whereon they can leave a nice clear spoken message which I can listen too as many times as I need
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Same here, M. Annual check ups? Unheard of for most of us.
Our prescriptions seem to be reviewed and reauthorised seamlessly in house without any consultation or input from us.
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No thought that casting aspersions was intended, moulesy. The impression of people thinking that old’uns like us do not use mobile phones is understandable, and I was just indicating that, in my own experience, quite a lot of elderly people do use mobile phones.
I think this is because lots of people who are now in their 80s were still in work when computerisation entered their lives. That certainly happened for me. From being computer illiterate, I had to attend courses arranged by my Company, and my work involved 4 types of languages for the different systems within our organisation. Getting “hands on” familiarity was hard in the early days due to the limited number of terminals on site, so I bought myself a computer for home and built up my abilities in the use of computers. It was from there that I progressed into going on line and using the Internet. I would imagine that this situation is common across my age group.
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My most recent " Check up " was in April 2020, following the telephonic order of Diabetes Sister, and I held myself available at the time & date suggested, she rang 3 minutes early ( I think
) and a five minute or so chat then "See You Soon I Hope" and away she went. -- my scrips are ordered on line and I get the call from the Pharmacy Head office to say - Go thee, It is collection Time !! I adjust the order as I see fit, and it has never been queried.Under normal i.e. non-C19 situations I get a good check-over physically every six months or so, it must be a real strain on the medics 'cos at least three (3 ) doctors have retired in the last 18 months or so --not sure if any came back in to assist C19 tho' .
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